House Votes Down Trump Impeachment

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-17/house-vote-articles-impeachment-wednesday


As was widely expected, the House voted down a measure that would have opened the door to impeaching President Trump, the New York Times reports.

The measure was introduced by Texas Rep. Al Green, who had repeatedly introduced similar measures before Democrats took control of the House in January. Green said he introduced the measure because Trump's racist comments - for telling members of the "squad" to 'go back to your own country' - justified impeachment.

The vote was 332-95 to table - that is, kill - Green's resolution. Democrats voted 137-95 with one voting "present", and Republicans voted Rep. Al Green's (D-TX) impeachment resolution. Democrats 137-95 (with 1 voting "present") Republicans unanimously voted against it 194-0 and the newly independent Justin Amash also voted against.

My take: I think enough Democrats knew that impeachment was a poison pill that would hurt them in the long run that they wisely voted it down.

Orange Man invincible. For now.

[flenna]

Trump is the only one who can take down Trump. I always cringe when he hits the tweet button but the ensuing carnage is always fun to watch.

[Grand58742]

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My take: I think enough Democrats knew that impeachment was a poison pill that would hurt them in the long run that they wisely voted it down.

Orange Man invincible. For now.

Guilt by association...

[Biggy]

IMHO, racism is destroying the Democratic Party from within. Joe, Bernie,Chuck,Nancy, Nadler, Schift, etc. , they are old and white and our going under the bus one way or another. If the economy and stock market stays strong, Trump will absolutely be re-elected President in 2020!!!

[OH58D]

IMHO, racism is destroying the Democratic Party from within. Joe, Bernie,Chuck,Nancy, Nadler, Schift, etc. , they are old and white and our going under the bus one way or another. If the economy and stock market stays strong, Trump will absolutely be re-elected President in 2020!!!
I certainly plan to vote for him, but I am afraid of massive voter fraud and election rigging. Desperate people do desperate things, and I am concerned we may be in for an election fight, even after election day, which could turn violent.

[fledge]

I certainly plan to vote for him, but I am afraid of massive voter fraud and election rigging. Desperate people do desperate things, and I am concerned we may be in for an election fight, even after election day, which could turn violent.

That’s my primary concern. And not just election fraud but the electoral college getting axed at the same time throwing everything to SCOTUS to decide the next election.

[titsonritz]

I hope it is a massive land slide for Trump and we retake the House starting a Schrie Murray victory in NY's 14th.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Trump is the only one who can take down Trump. I always cringe when he hits the tweet button but the ensuing carnage is always fun to watch.

Ding, ding, ding! The Greeks don't even have a play that explores the depth of his ability to self destroy- and how that is tied into his ability to succeed. When the politics finally fade in 100 years, the historians will have a real interesting time with him and the era we live in.

It is going to get reaaally messy in the next election, and unfortunately, afterwards too.

Frankly, unless Trump killed someone, I don't see how there could be any more mud that could possible taint him. The economy is moving, but slowing. The GOP finally took off the handcuffs and are using the budget to keep things going. When the Chinese realize that Trump will probably win- and that if he does they are going to get an even worse deal than what is be offered now, they'll come back and that will juice the economy and get farmers/ag back in the MAGA camp.

I think it would be ultimately, cosmically and hilarious if the ChiComs come in covertly for the dem in hope of a better deal- and they get caught- a reverse Trump Dossier/Putin love fest. You can already see it with Biden saying nice things about China...

[Diamondback]

I certainly plan to vote for him, but I am afraid of massive voter fraud and election rigging. Desperate people do desperate things, and I am concerned we may be in for an election fight, even after election day, which could turn violent.

My friend, we already have that... it's how Seattle gets 100% turnout of its 24% of Washington's population, and uses that to win 40%-turnout elections and run roughshod over the other 76% of us. Google "Rossi v Gregoire" sometime... and Seattle is amateur-hour net to New Yuck, Hell A, San Franshithole and Chiraq. :(

[yoni]

I see the President winning reelection, baring anything major.

I also don't think what the told the 4 bitches was wrong, you want to turn the USA into a socialist paradise then get the hell out.

I don't see the democratic party being able to return the socialist genie to the bottle anytime soon. Which I think is wonderful, since it will cost them election after election except in the places like San Fransisco, Seattle, NYC,etc.

When the President wins reelection by a good amount, then it will get really crazy.

2022 and 2024 elections concern me, but then again as nobody saw President Trump coming on the scene just a few years ago maybe once again we will get lucky.

For the USA, is the key to the good of the whole world. If the USA ever goes socialist, then the whole world will suffer. The world economy will suffer, we will see more wars, and yes even more disease as the efforts that Americans fund and staff around the world will go away due to high taxes in the USA.

G-D Bless President Trump and the USA, and may He give us the wisdom and courage to save the Rwepublic.

[sundance435]

I also think it's Trump's election to lose, but you can't underestimate his ability to destroy himself. The tweets about the "Four" were a huge unforced error. I was really enjoying watching the democrats tear themselves apart and he had to step in and give them something to unite around.

I'm also more concerned about 2024 and Trump being a repeat of Nixon - not for impeachment, but of the party itself abandoning everything for another term (2020). Nixon was the worst thing to happen to Republicans (leaving Watergate out of it) since Hoover. He didn't give one shit about what happened to the party and as a result the dems had overwhelming majorities in Congress. We are already seeing it - principled Republicans giving in to kowtow to anti-Republican positions of Trump, chiefly, deficits and protectionism. The only variable here is how far left the dems go and how amenable the voting public is to "free shit".

[fledge]

I also think it's Trump's election to lose, but you can't underestimate his ability to destroy himself. The tweets about the "Four" were a huge unforced error. I was really enjoying watching the democrats tear themselves apart and he had to step in and give them something to unite around.

I used to think that. But it never happens because his actions speak louder. I think for all those that hate his decorum they appreciate his candor even more. Rasmussen showed a 4% jump on the polls for Trump after talking about the “four.” That they were infighting was a fraternal Dem spat. Now it’s coffee table conversation. You’d be surprised how many good people in 2019 are still unaware of the danger of the Dems.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

TRump turns lemons into lemonade, and if he doesn't have any lemons, he makes lemons, or uses a lime, an orange, or a squash- what ever is around.

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I also think it's Trump's election to lose, but you can't underestimate his ability to destroy himself. The tweets about the "Four" were a huge unforced error. I was really enjoying watching the democrats tear themselves apart and he had to step in and give them something to unite around.

I'm also more concerned about 2024 and Trump being a repeat of Nixon - not for impeachment, but of the party itself abandoning everything for another term (2020). Nixon was the worst thing to happen to Republicans (leaving Watergate out of it) since Hoover. He didn't give one shit about what happened to the party and as a result the dems had overwhelming majorities in Congress. We are already seeing it - principled Republicans giving in to kowtow to anti-Republican positions of Trump, chiefly, deficits and protectionism. The only variable here is how far left the dems go and how amenable the voting public is to "free shit".

The Republican party is still mostly in opposition them. They missed the sea change that Trump IS the new Republican Party. Much as I hate Paul Ryan, he was at least smart enough to see the Old Guard was whipped.

[flenna]

With these anti-Semitic communists taking over the Democratic Party the only way I see President Trump losing in 2020 is through voter fraud and lawsuits.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/omar-introduces-resolution-defending-boycotts-of-israel-likens-it-to-boycott-of-nazi-germany-soviet-union

[glocktogo]

I also think it's Trump's election to lose, but you can't underestimate his ability to destroy himself. The tweets about the "Four" were a huge unforced error. I was really enjoying watching the democrats tear themselves apart and he had to step in and give them something to unite around.

I'm also more concerned about 2024 and Trump being a repeat of Nixon - not for impeachment, but of the party itself abandoning everything for another term (2020). Nixon was the worst thing to happen to Republicans (leaving Watergate out of it) since Hoover. He didn't give one shit about what happened to the party and as a result the dems had overwhelming majorities in Congress. We are already seeing it - principled Republicans giving in to kowtow to anti-Republican positions of Trump, chiefly, deficits and protectionism. The only variable here is how far left the dems go and how amenable the voting public is to "free shit".

Was it though? He's keeping the focus on the most radical and boisterous element of the Democratic party. The ones who espouse communist views, want open borders and hate law enforcement. The ones who want to steal money from people who aren't like them, to give to people who are. The longer he controls the identity of the Democratic party by highlighting these radical leftists, the more centrists he's going to turn against them.

No one cares what the histrionic diehards have to say, they've already cast their votes. It's the undecided he has to turn against them, and he is. He also has to keep the fire lit under his diehard fans. I'd personally rather have him take a "hide and watch" approach, but that's not his style. He's doing the only thing he knows how to do. Time will tell if that's enough.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

So this means even the DEms think he is innocent ;)

That is how Trump will spin it.

Was the Meuller Sh!t show postponed till next week?

[Diamondback]

Was it though? He's keeping the focus on the most radical and boisterous element of the Democratic party. The ones who espouse communist views, want open borders and hate law enforcement. The ones who want to steal money from people who aren't like them, to give to people who are. The longer he controls the identity of the Democratic party by highlighting these radical leftists, the more centrists he's going to turn against them.

No one cares what the histrionic diehards have to say, they've already cast their votes. It's the undecided he has to turn against them, and he is. He also has to keep the fire lit under his diehard fans. I'd personally rather have him take a "hide and watch" approach, but that's not his style. He's doing the only thing he knows how to do. Time will tell if that's enough.

Straight out of Alinsky: "Pick your target, define it, freeze it, personalize it and polarize it." Watching Trump hoist these un-American Commie shitstains by the very petard they've used against us for decades is positively schadenfreude-alicious... hopefully he inspires the rest of the GOP to quit being a bunch of ladyboy sissies in dresses and keep giving the Left generous helpings of their own medicine until they tap out. Problem is the limp-dicked, panty-wearing sissycucks of the Bill Kristol/Nevertard Establishment Wing...

[lowprone]

That's what they have primaries for, they are incumbents only weakness and stupid Americans keep sending the same idiots back.
It really is frustrating that we are our own worst enemy .

[Pappabear]

I certainly plan to vote for him, but I am afraid of massive voter fraud and election rigging. Desperate people do desperate things, and I am concerned we may be in for an election fight, even after election day, which could turn violent.

Me too, because they are like " well you caught us cheating, no biggie we are Dem's" No story here.

PB

[BoringGuy45]

With these anti-Semitic communists taking over the Democratic Party the only way I see President Trump losing in 2020 is through voter fraud and lawsuits.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/omar-introduces-resolution-defending-boycotts-of-israel-likens-it-to-boycott-of-nazi-germany-soviet-union

Hopefully. I do worry that the media has been successful in convincing a good faction of the voters that Trump is literally the worst person to walk the earth, and even Hitler, Genghis Khan, or Caligula would be a better choice than him. I don't think he'd win PA again, but if he has Ohio and Florida, he should be okay.

[Averageman]

I think he's doing a hell of a job making Pelosi own this group of radicals.
She's afraid to speak it against them and that's pushing the reality that they are all radical Marxists, even the so called moderates like Joe Biden.
Calling out both Pelosi and Biden as racist opened the door for this opportunity.

[sundance435]

Was it though? He's keeping the focus on the most radical and boisterous element of the Democratic party. The ones who espouse communist views, want open borders and hate law enforcement. The ones who want to steal money from people who aren't like them, to give to people who are. The longer he controls the identity of the Democratic party by highlighting these radical leftists, the more centrists he's going to turn against them.

No one cares what the histrionic diehards have to say, they've already cast their votes. It's the undecided he has to turn against them, and he is. He also has to keep the fire lit under his diehard fans. I'd personally rather have him take a "hide and watch" approach, but that's not his style. He's doing the only thing he knows how to do. Time will tell if that's enough.

I get that, and I agree to an extent, but he was the first to push the boat into uncharted waters and I'm worried that there is a limit with certain voters he needs to retain AND get out to vote. I have no particular love for DJT, but the alternative is terrifying. Appealing to the base and making the dems own the radical positions of many of their ranks is one thing, but I have a hard time seeing any upside to his tweets about the four. He should be owning them on policy, especially immigration, and he's not. Sometimes ad hominem attacks work for him, but this was not the time. The optics of the rally in NC only magnify it.

He needs to pivot soon into a semblance of a normal presidential figure like he did in the campaign. It's unlikely that whomever the (D)'s choose will have the unfavorables of HRC that balanced his out, which I don't think you can discount for his victory in '16. No one cared that he was insulting HRC because a majority of people couldn't stand her - he's not likely to have the same advantage this time. 50,000 votes over 3 states is about as narrow as you can possibly get.


Hopefully. I do worry that the media has been successful in convincing a good faction of the voters that Trump is literally the worst person to walk the earth, and even Hitler, Genghis Khan, or Caligula would be a better choice than him. I don't think he'd win PA again, but if he has Ohio and Florida, he should be okay.

The thing is, he HAS to win Florida and Ohio just to get an electoral map that's plausible. Then he HAS to win PA or MI and WI, or WI and flip a handful of states. I think his path is narrower this time.

[glocktogo]

I get that, and I agree to an extent, but he was the first to push the boat into uncharted waters and I'm worried that there is a limit with certain voters he needs to retain AND get out to vote. I have no particular love for DJT, but the alternative is terrifying. Appealing to the base and making the dems own the radical positions of many of their ranks is one thing, but I have a hard time seeing any upside to his tweets about the four. He should be owning them on policy, especially immigration, and he's not. Sometimes ad hominem attacks work for him, but this was not the time. The optics of the rally in NC only magnify it.

He needs to pivot soon into a semblance of a normal presidential figure like he did in the campaign. It's unlikely that whomever the (D)'s choose will have the unfavorables of HRC that balanced his out, which I don't think you can discount for his victory in '16. No one cared that he was insulting HRC because a majority of people couldn't stand her - he's not likely to have the same advantage this time. 50,000 votes over 3 states is about as narrow as you can possibly get.

The thing is, he HAS to win Florida and Ohio just to get an electoral map that's plausible. Then he HAS to win PA or MI and WI, or WI and flip a handful of states. I think his path is narrower this time.

Agreed. His math was superior to Hillary's in 2016. Let's hope he didn't forget his own lesson.

[duece71]

[QUOTE=sundance435;2752617]I get that, and I agree to an extent, but he was the first to push the boat into uncharted waters and I'm worried that there is a limit with certain voters he needs to retain AND get out to vote. I have no particular love for DJT, but the alternative is terrifying. Appealing to the base and making the dems own the radical positions of many of their ranks is one thing, but I have a hard time seeing any upside to his tweets about the four. He should be owning them on policy, especially immigration, and he's not. Sometimes ad hominem attacks work for him, but this was not the time. The optics of the rally in NC only magnify it.

He needs to pivot soon into a semblance of a normal presidential figure like he did in the campaign. It's unlikely that whomever the (D)'s choose will have the unfavorables of HRC that balanced his out, which I don't think you can discount for his victory in '16. No one cared that he was insulting HRC because a majority of people couldn't stand her - he's not likely to have the same advantage this time. 50,000 votes over 3 states is about as narrow as you can possibly get.



The thing is, he HAS to win Florida and Ohio just to get an electoral map that's plausible. Then he HAS to win PA or MI and WI, or WI and flip a handful of states. I think his path is narrower this time.

You say this not knowing whom the Dems are going to choose as their one trick pony.

[Diamondback]

I get that, and I agree to an extent, but he was the first to push the boat into uncharted waters and I'm worried that there is a limit with certain voters he needs to retain AND get out to vote. I have no particular love for DJT, but the alternative is terrifying. Appealing to the base and making the dems own the radical positions of many of their ranks is one thing, but I have a hard time seeing any upside to his tweets about the four. He should be owning them on policy, especially immigration, and he's not. Sometimes ad hominem attacks work for him, but this was not the time. The optics of the rally in NC only magnify it.

He needs to pivot soon into a semblance of a normal presidential figure like he did in the campaign. It's unlikely that whomever the (D)'s choose will have the unfavorables of HRC that balanced his out, which I don't think you can discount for his victory in '16. No one cared that he was insulting HRC because a majority of people couldn't stand her - he's not likely to have the same advantage this time. 50,000 votes over 3 states is about as narrow as you can possibly get.



The thing is, he HAS to win Florida and Ohio just to get an electoral map that's plausible. Then he HAS to win PA or MI and WI, or WI and flip a handful of states. I think his path is narrower this time.

You say this not knowing whom the Dems are going to choose as their one trick pony.

That's part of why the game has to be rip the Demofascists' masks off by tying All Out Crazy and her Seditionist Squad like a millstone around their necks, making the F*cked-Up Four the public face of the party and gaslighting them til they take it up to eleven and beyond. Set those four Human Dumpster Fires and the rest of their ilk alight, keep pouring on the gasoline and use their own words against them to scare the Normals: "Do you like what you see? If not, vote Republican--a vote for ANY Dem is a vote for more of this."

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Hopefully. I do worry that the media has been successful in convincing a good faction of the voters that Trump is literally the worst person to walk the earth, and even Hitler, Genghis Khan, or Caligula would be a better choice than him. I don't think he'd win PA again, but if he has Ohio and Florida, he should be okay.

Like people thought he was a saint last time? And the dems have turned the kookie-krazy to 11 this time. The left/MSM has been saying that Trump will be the end of the world for 5 years now, and here we all are. Somehow alive.

[flenna]

Let's hope that the average ignoramus college leftist stays home and doesn't vote in 2020.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/college-students-obama-immigration-racist-trump

[morbidbattlecry]

While Trumps offence is as impeachable as anything else, this is really a giant waste of time and resources.

[duece71]

While Trumps offence is as impeachable as anything else, this is really a giant waste of time and resources.
Agreed and more importantly......Tax Payer Money! Between this, the Mueller debacle and many others, the American tax payer is owed a tidy sum. I won’t hold my breath.......