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New trailer is out.........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSqVVswa420
I loved the original as a kid, I will probably see it in the theatre.
FromMyColdDeadHand
07-19-19, 15:30
It almost looked like a shot-for-shot homage, but I still am going to wait in line to see it. Too much of my childhood wrapped up in that. Footage looks pretty good and Cruise has been making good movies.
Please pay Kelly McGuiniss to not be in it.
Notice the F14 in the last clip of the trailer...
I Feel the NEED, the need for the AARP....
Looks like they put him in the back seat for this one to get real air footage. Interesting why some of the shots have him in a full pressure suit.
Adrenaline_6
07-19-19, 15:33
It almost looked like a shot-for-shot homage, but I still am going to wait in line to see it. Too much of my childhood wrapped up in that. Footage looks pretty good and Cruise has been making good movies.
Please pay Kelly McGuiniss to not be in it.
Notice the F14 in the last clip of the trailer...
I Feel the NEED, the need for the AARP....
I noticed that too. Wonder where that will apply?
Who cares...I'm in.
Looks like they put him in the back seat for this one to get real air footage.
Indeed. I would have thought the Navy could have rigged up a 2 stick super hornet but maybe the USN is done with cool promos.
FromMyColdDeadHand
07-19-19, 15:36
Looks like they put him in the back seat for this one to get real air footage. Interesting why some of the shots have him in a full pressure suit.
I think that they are going to debut some kind of 'Foxfire' type drone-manned AC stuff, and that is part of it- my guess. Also with the F14 in the end, I'd say that someone hacks the system and Maverick saves the day in an old F14 that they have laying around. Just a guess.
Iran has some F14's. Just sayn'....
WickedWillis
07-19-19, 16:40
What is the enemy in this film? It honestly feels like aliens. I mean, what if we have a film about Tom Cruise battling aliens in an F18?
What is the enemy in this film? It honestly feels like aliens. I mean, what if we have a film about Tom Cruise battling aliens in an F18?
Well, NFWS is in Fallon, NV and Area 51 is just down the road....
What is the enemy in this film? It honestly feels like aliens. I mean, what if we have a film about Tom Cruise battling aliens in an F18?
Will Smith already did that.
El Vaquero
07-19-19, 17:08
Tom Cruise is one whacky dude in real life but he almost always delivers a good action flick. I’m in.
WickedWillis
07-19-19, 17:12
Will Smith already did that.
It had a big ID4 vibe to me
I seriously cannot wait.
I've heard plot rumors especially regarding the F-14 (who still actively uses it? hmmm) and if even a fraction of what I hear is true it is going to be badass.
Tom Cruise may be gay and worships aliens but he is usually insistent on his own stunts and practical effects. And he fronts his own money to ensure it happens. I cannot think of a film he has ever done that I actively disliked.
I now want an updated Iron Eagle.
It had a big ID4 vibe to me
POSSIBLE SPOILERS
No aliens but super drones. Sounds lame until you realize it is an actual thing.
BoringGuy45
07-19-19, 18:28
I'm wondering...they showed that scene of Ed Harris questioning Maverick as to why he's only a captain after 30+ years. And, according to IMDb, Iceman is only a commander... also, after more than 30 years. I'm thinking we're going to find that that sometime between the first movie and this one, both Maverick and Iceman got into some kind of trouble and either got denied promotions or demoted.
Given how movie tropes go, they probably went into restricted airspace to help rescue American forces after they were ordered to return to base and let the troops die.
Grand58742
07-19-19, 18:29
I now want an updated Iron Eagle.
You just want another badass soundtrack with plenty of 80s hair bands.
I'm sure Hollyweird would eff it up by having Ariana Grande trying to cover Queen and BTS covering the Spencer Davis Group.
Grand58742
07-19-19, 18:34
I'm wondering...they showed that scene of Ed Harris questioning Maverick as to why he's only a captain after 30+ years.
I was appalled at the lack of any kind of research they did about the "three kills, more than anyone in the last 40 years."
Both Capt Thomas Dietz, USAF and 1Lt Robert Hehemann, USAF scored 3 kills apiece in Desert Storm.
Never mind...Hollywood...
FromMyColdDeadHand
07-19-19, 18:37
In the Navy.....
Per 80s hair rock, it would be a racially motivated hate crime to have an Iron Eagle movie without it. Doug Masters looks the right kind of grizzled and not bald for Doug Masters to fly again.
Per the shootdowns, I’d like to think Maverick scored a few more kills in Desert Storm. They could easily church that up with a redub saying “more than 3 kills in the last 40 years”
I also think Ed Harris is kinda a poor choice in that scene. The Captain line would have more weight if it came from an Admiral the same age or younger than Tom Cruise.
I actually think they are gonna go smart here if the rumors are true and make the film for people contemporary of the original Top Gun. No wokeness. No fat black lesbian fighter pilot.
In fact the opening prologue basically is calling Maverick an outdated dinosaur and he’s like “lol we’ll see”
I hope the F-14 rumors are true. That it’s an OPFOR plane and Maverick gets into a bloody and vicious dogfight with it as he knows it better than anyone. It’s a meta callback to the point of Top Gun.
The point of the course is teaching hardcore gunfighting in response to the early Vietnam War error of relying on gadgets and rockets.
Now there are only a few near peer nations that have any Air Force of any sophistication and we know China won’t be OPFOR and the Russians is kinda played out and cheap.
There is also rumors that he uses a Navy F-35 at some point.
Rumors but interesting if true
I'm wondering...they showed that scene of Ed Harris questioning Maverick as to why he's only a captain after 30+ years.
Lots of officers are Captain/Colonel after 30 years. They then retire.
I was appalled at the lack of any kind of research they did about the "three kills, more than anyone in the last 40 years."
Both Capt Thomas Dietz, USAF and 1Lt Robert Hehemann, USAF scored 3 kills apiece in Desert Storm.
Yeah that was whacked. As firefly points out, they have a year to re-dub that.
As long as TC goes Mach 2 AND his hair actually catches on fire WHILE dropping a JDAM full of poop on Kelly Mcghillies riding his old Ninja.......all will be well with this version.
Grand58742
07-19-19, 19:33
As long as TC goes Mach 2 AND his hair actually catches on fire WHILE dropping a JDAM full of poop on Kelly Mcghillies riding his old Ninja.......all will be well with this version.
Kelly hasn't aged well...
Per 80s hair rock, it would be a racially motivated hate crime to have an Iron Eagle movie without it. Doug Masters looks the right kind of grizzled and not bald for Doug Masters to fly again.
Per the shootdowns, I’d like to think Maverick scored a few more kills in Desert Storm. They could easily church that up with a redub saying “more than 3 kills in the last 40 years”
I also think Ed Harris is kinda a poor choice in that scene. The Captain line would have more weight if it came from an Admiral the same age or younger than Tom Cruise.
I actually think they are gonna go smart here if the rumors are true and make the film for people contemporary of the original Top Gun. No wokeness. No fat black lesbian fighter pilot.
In fact the opening prologue basically is calling Maverick an outdated dinosaur and he’s like “lol we’ll see”
I hope the F-14 rumors are true. That it’s an OPFOR plane and Maverick gets into a bloody and vicious dogfight with it as he knows it better than anyone. It’s a meta callback to the point of Top Gun.
The point of the course is teaching hardcore gunfighting in response to the early Vietnam War error of relying on gadgets and rockets.
Now there are only a few near peer nations that have any Air Force of any sophistication and we know China won’t be OPFOR and the Russians is kinda played out and cheap.
There is also rumors that he uses a Navy F-35 at some point.
Rumors but interesting if trueWasn't Doug dead by the 3rd movie?
BoringGuy45
07-19-19, 19:43
Lots of officers are Captain/Colonel after 30 years. They then retire.
First, I didn't know that. I figured if a captain was in for 30 years and failed to make admiral, he'd face mandatory retirement. But I guess also, it would be a mystery as to why a legendary, decorated hero wouldn't be a flag officer by that point.
How about Ice Man? 30 years and he's only an O-5? Does that ever happen? Just curious.
Kelly hasn't aged well...
My point exactly.
First, I didn't know that. I figured if a captain was in for 30 years and failed to make admiral, he'd face mandatory retirement. But I guess also, it would be a mystery as to why a legendary, decorated hero wouldn't be a flag officer by that point.
How about Ice Man? 30 years and he's only an O-5? Does that ever happen? Just curious.
If you want to stay in the cockpit you can only follow the promotion track up to a certain point and I think O-6 is about it.
First, I didn't know that. I figured if a captain was in for 30 years and failed to make admiral, he'd face mandatory retirement. But I guess also, it would be a mystery as to why a legendary, decorated hero wouldn't be a flag officer by that point.
How about Ice Man? 30 years and he's only an O-5? Does that ever happen? Just curious.
Per the original movie.....Maverick was not an academy student (May or may not matter) and he dupped some dudes kid. (Curiously last name of Mitchell). Also.....Goose died, Maverick has that on his shoulders and was probably haunted by his ghost or something. Maybe Gooses widow had it in for Maverick after the crash. As for Iceman.....well, he is a sore loser douchebag and is therefore undeserving.
Wasn't Doug dead by the 3rd movie?
He was in Russian prison. I didnt care for the sequels but they could keep that in.
I'd imagine a modern day Doug Masters to be ultimately more hardened and possibly depressed. Like he got out after 20 years and came full circle from being a teen. But he's innately skilled. Chappy is old and in a home. And like Dougs daughter gets kidnapped by ISIS so he sells his ranch, hires mercenaries, and steals an F-15 to blow the piss out of them. But like it happens over contested airspace so he slugs it out with Russian pilots and has flashbacks to being drugged and tortured by the Russians in the 80s so he puts on Metallica's Seek and Destroy and kills them all.
And the USAF sends pilots to get him to stop and kill him if necessary but he is blood drunk. He goes down and starts bludgeoning hajis with a shovel after his pdw AR goes empty.
Eventually he is captured by the US but they pin it all in rogue Israeli Air Force and they say they have his daughter but if he shuts up and goes home then they will cover it up again.
If you want to stay in the cockpit you can only follow the promotion track up to a certain point and I think O-6 is about it.
Not an expert here, but I know folks who were still flying as Colonels. There was a documentary recently with General Harrigan, he is 4 star and he still flies the F-22. So there are exceptions. The problem with flying as you get older is passing med/qual. Most pilots I know who stopped flying before retirement went out on med/disqual.
He was in Russian prison. I didnt care for the sequels but they could keep that in.
I'd imagine a modern day Doug Masters to be ultimately more hardened and possibly depressed. Like he got out after 20 years and came full circle from being a teen. But he's innately skilled. Chappy is old and in a home. And like Dougs daughter gets kidnapped by ISIS so he sells his ranch, hires mercenaries, and steals an F-15 to blow the piss out of them. But like it happens over contested airspace so he slugs it out with Russian pilots and has flashbacks to being drugged and tortured by the Russians in the 80s so he puts on Metallica's Seek and Destroy and kills them all.
And the USAF sends pilots to get him to stop and kill him if necessary but he is blood drunk. He goes down and starts bludgeoning hajis with a shovel after his pdw AR goes empty.
Eventually he is captured by the US but they pin it all in rogue Israeli Air Force and they say they have his daughter but if he shuts up and goes home then they will cover it up again.
You should send a plot synopsis to Hollywood, you never know. While we are at it, if you don’t mind, cast me as the dude riding the dirt bike racing through the canyons to try to beat young Doug in his Cessna 152 (or was it a C150 aerobat?). Thanks.
ramairthree
07-19-19, 20:58
First, I didn't know that. I figured if a captain was in for 30 years and failed to make admiral, he'd face mandatory retirement. But I guess also, it would be a mystery as to why a legendary, decorated hero wouldn't be a flag officer by that point.
How about Ice Man? 30 years and he's only an O-5? Does that ever happen? Just curious.
There not really a failing to make general/admiral thing.
There are nowhere near enough slots.
Iceman still being an O5 I don’t think is possible.
But O6, as has come up in some discussions IRL and other internet places,
Yes, it is a stretch with him still being in. Still actively flying at that,
But,
O6 is not so much an up or put position.
In general, not for a Doc, Lawyer, or some other special situation,
In modern military timelines,
Someone comes in as an O1.
In about 3 1/2 years of service they will be an 03.
In about 9 years of service they will be an O4.
In about 15 years of service they will be an O5.
Around 20 years of service they will be an O6.
A couple of years earlier, or a couple of years later, depending on which decade, etc.
The majority of officers will make those ranks as long as they stay in.
Now, just because 90% of SF O5s make O6 does NOT mean 90% of SF O6s are going to make O7.
There are typically about 9000 O5 officers in the Army.
There are typically about 4000 O6 officers in the Army.
This is NOT because less than half could get promoted- people take better jobs, have paid off service commitments, got hurt, died, retired because they were prior service enlisted and already over 20, etc.
Now, again, let’s go back to about 4000 O6 officers.
There are only about 140 O7 slots they could be promoted to.
The odds are better or worse from some branches.
O7s lose their branch, meaning an O5 or O6 from a branch with some serious specials pays and bonuses make more.
Plus, many are over 20 years, can retire, new career, make more on the outside, etc.
But even after that there are not enough slots to promote every O6 that wants to stay.
Maybe about 1% of O6s staying in would have a potential slot to make O7.
The maximum retirement age is 62, with I believe another three years or so that can be approved and waivered.
There are also a ton of Professor, staff, etc. positions where an O6 can pretty much stay until that max age if they want. Some 44 year old guy that took 20 years to make 06, spent three years as an O6 and could fully retire as an O6,
Could actually stay in the Army for another 20 years. Spending more time as an O6 than it took to become an O6.
So, say 21 year old Maverick joined the Navy in 1981,
In Top Gun in 1986 he is 26 and has five years of service and is an 03.
In 1990, at 30, he becomes an O4.
In 1995, at 35, he becomes an O5.
In 2000, at 40, he becomes an O6.
In 2020, it is Top Gun 2 time. He is a 60 year old O6.
Probably fairly close to his real life age.
Not an expert here, but I know folks who were still flying as Colonels. There was a documentary recently with General Harrigan, he is 4 star and he still flies the F-22. So there are exceptions. The problem with flying as you get older is passing med/qual. Most pilots I know who stopped flying before retirement went out on med/disqual.
I think Don Conroy was still flying as a colonel.
The_War_Wagon
07-19-19, 22:27
I feel the NEED! The NEED... for GERITOL! (I can see the product placement for this film already - Pat Boone's "walk-in tub," Doan's pills, Cialis, & Medic-Alert bracelets!) :jester:
vicious_cb
07-20-19, 00:31
I doubt this movie is going to be good. If you follow Hollywoods trend lately its to pull you in with nostalgia by making a remake or sequel then shit all over the memory of the old movie by add strong female wamen and woke political undertones.
MeanCarbine
07-20-19, 00:49
I doubt this movie is going to be good. If you follow Hollywoods trend lately its to pull you in with nostalgia by making a remake or sequel then shit all over the memory of the old movie by add strong female wamen and woke political undertones.
QFTT
Easy pass. Give me something original Hollywood. Enough of the remakes/reboots/part 1,2,3, etc.
ramairthree
07-20-19, 00:53
I doubt this movie is going to be good. If you follow Hollywoods trend lately its to pull you in with nostalgia by making a remake or sequel then shit all over the memory of the old movie by add strong female wamen and woke political undertones.
In general his movies I have seen lately may have some bad ass females, but they are old school red headed warrior princess in Willow, Rene Russo in Lethal Weapon, Ripley in Aliens, Sharon Stone in Total Recall types. With the lead male still being the Uber badass. Not Mary Sue gurlz power saving us from racist male toxicity types. If some new girl pilot Luke Skywalkers him or this is getting the Fatbusters or Transinator treatment I will be pissed.
I doubt this movie is going to be good. If you follow Hollywoods trend lately its to pull you in with nostalgia by making a remake or sequel then shit all over the memory of the old movie by add strong female wamen and woke political undertones.
First of all, Hello and good evening. I value you as a poster and a gentleman. Salud!
I say that to say this: Please watch what comes out of your French Whore mouth.
Tom Cruise hasn't done a woke movie to date. What smattering of plot looks badass. I bet the upstart female pilot crashes and burns spectacularly because SOMEBODY gotta die and it AINT gonna be Goose Jr.
I hear tell that it will involve Super Drones and Iran.
I mean let's be real here....Top Gun was the first mainstream movie about severe homosexuality laced with rock music, patrioltic music, and fighter jets. But its okay. The dudes weren't ugly and were in their prime. The movie was never a serious and heartfelt film like Iron Eagle. But it still had a LOT of artistic merit.
Plus this is Tom. Cruise. He had no problem dumping Nicole Kidman and thst Dawson's Creek girl to worship aliens. He has raging Short man syndrome. And by gum, deep down he's /Our_Guy/ So no. Go watch Terminator for girl power.
I'm fully expecting lemonparty homoeroticism, Jennifer Connely's sagging bewbs, patriotic music, cool pictures of non-CGI jets, and Tom Cruise to save the day.
You are all so gun shy. But anyone who has that big of an ego and is crazy isnt going to pander. They gon' do what they gon' do. And he wants to fly fighter jets and play shirtless football with men young enough to be his son.
WORKS FOR ME! CANT WAIT!
I can’t speak about the active duty Navy, but I know USAF guys that intentionally tried not to get promoted to O-6 so the could avoid flying a desk and stay in the cockpit. Yeah, there are O-6 and higher that “fly” but not as their primary job and almost none are mission qualified. Most of them have to fly with an instructor when they do get up in the air.
Not uncommon to get waivers to to extend your time in the cockpit too. I’ve got friends that did 30 and retired as O-5s. There is a pilot shortage after all.
FromMyColdDeadHand
07-20-19, 01:20
A sixty year old O-6 and a sixty year old fighter pilot are different things.... but it is a movie, I get it. Hell, I had a stewardess the other day that was so old I almost asked which Wright brother she blew for the job.
vicious_cb
07-20-19, 02:50
First of all, Hello and good evening. I value you as a poster and a gentleman. Salud!
I say that to say this: Please watch what comes out of your French Whore mouth.
Tom Cruise hasn't done a woke movie to date. What smattering of plot looks badass. I bet the upstart female pilot crashes and burns spectacularly because SOMEBODY gotta die and it AINT gonna be Goose Jr.
I hear tell that it will involve Super Drones and Iran.
I mean let's be real here....Top Gun was the first mainstream movie about severe homosexuality laced with rock music, patrioltic music, and fighter jets. But its okay. The dudes weren't ugly and were in their prime. The movie was never a serious and heartfelt film like Iron Eagle. But it still had a LOT of artistic merit.
Plus this is Tom. Cruise. He had no problem dumping Nicole Kidman and thst Dawson's Creek girl to worship aliens. He has raging Short man syndrome. And by gum, deep down he's /Our_Guy/ So no. Go watch Terminator for girl power.
I'm fully expecting lemonparty homoeroticism, Jennifer Connely's sagging bewbs, patriotic music, cool pictures of non-CGI jets, and Tom Cruise to save the day.
You are all so gun shy. But anyone who has that big of an ego and is crazy isnt going to pander. They gon' do what they gon' do. And he wants to fly fighter jets and play shirtless football with men young enough to be his son.
WORKS FOR ME! CANT WAIT!
I dunno man, they turned 007 into a short haired black waman. If they can do that to 007 they screw up anything.
Id atleast wait till the viewer ratings are out.
He was in Russian prison. I didnt care for the sequels but they could keep that in.
I'd imagine a modern day Doug Masters to be ultimately more hardened and possibly depressed. Like he got out after 20 years and came full circle from being a teen. But he's innately skilled. Chappy is old and in a home. And like Dougs daughter gets kidnapped by ISIS so he sells his ranch, hires mercenaries, and steals an F-15 to blow the piss out of them. But like it happens over contested airspace so he slugs it out with Russian pilots and has flashbacks to being drugged and tortured by the Russians in the 80s so he puts on Metallica's Seek and Destroy and kills them all.
And the USAF sends pilots to get him to stop and kill him if necessary but he is blood drunk. He goes down and starts bludgeoning hajis with a shovel after his pdw AR goes empty.
Eventually he is captured by the US but they pin it all in rogue Israeli Air Force and they say they have his daughter but if he shuts up and goes home then they will cover it up again.
I could get behind this. You're hired.
The maximum retirement age is 62
You're partially correct. Mandatory retirement is 60, but a 2 year extension can be requested to extend it to 62. I know of Officers who requested the extensions, but we're denied. Warrants on the other hand, nobody gets rid of them unless they killed someone or were screwing the help. There are exceptions for medical officers in specialties, but by and large only Warrants get the 2 year extension from what I've seen.
Maybe they can get Jenna Jameson to take over Kelly's role.
BoringGuy45
07-20-19, 13:05
Maybe they can get Jenna Jameson to take over Kelly's role.
Yuck, no! First, JJ was overrated even in her prime. Second, she looks almost as bad as Kelly now!
From what I read, Jennifer Connelly is in this one. She, on the other hand, has aged like fine wine!
Top Gun Sequel Drops Japanese, Taiwanese Flags from Maverick’s Jacket to Appease China
Gee go figure Hollyweird sucking up to the chi-coms
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/07/20/hayward-top-gun-sequel-drops-japanese-taiwanese-flags-from-mavericks-jacket-to-appease-china/
Yuck, no! First, JJ was overrated even in her prime. Second, she looks almost as bad as Kelly now!
From what I read, Jennifer Connelly is in this one. She, on the other hand, has aged like fine wine!
Jenna Jameson was amazing in the beginning. Hard living, hard drugs, etc. are hard on a girl.
But Jennifer seems to have held up impressively.
Maybe they can get Jenna Jameson to take over Kelly's role.
If Jenna Jameson were in it, there would have to be at least some soft hard core porn filmed....for, you know....nostalgic purposes and all. :jester:
FromMyColdDeadHand
07-21-19, 17:54
There is less time between "The Bridges of Toko Ri" and "Top Gun", and "Top Gun" and "Maverick".
William Holden was dead before Top Gun came out....
The elevator scene in Top Gun (and the slowest elevator ever if the building was at an airport) showed that Kelly McGillis was already getting ugly.
Well we already know the Chinese aren't the bad guys because they took off the Japanese and Taiwanese (Republic of China) flag off his jacket. Kinda lending credulity to the SuperDrone/Iran theory.
That said....I kinda like Chinxploitation movies like Operation Red Sea. It is total and absolute CCP propaganda for the Chinese Marines but holy god it was pretty gory towards the end. It was amusing. Plus when homeboy used that bullpup Dragunov to kill Somalis...that was pretty based actually.
I also doubt its the Russians. Thats so played out. I bet its Iran. They been banging that drum for a minute, Dems and Repubs alike
New Trailer, lots of questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4U4BQW9OEk
WTF is that plane at the end?
There were rumors of them fighting Iran or some kind of Super Drones and that Maverick uses an F-35. Thats not an F-35. With all the new talk of trans-orbital extra-atmospheric flight....it looks like an SR-71ish fighter jet.
I do not know planes. Interesting for sure.
Adrenaline_6
12-16-19, 08:21
New Trailer, lots of questions.
WTF is that plane at the end?
There were rumors of them fighting Iran or some kind of Super Drones and that Maverick uses an F-35. Thats not an F-35. With all the new talk of trans-orbital extra-atmospheric flight....it looks like an SR-71ish fighter jet.
I do not know planes. Interesting for sure.
It looks Aurora-ish.
FromMyColdDeadHand
12-16-19, 08:31
Just saw this. Looking a bit more cartoonish than the original sneak peak. The line about invitations versus orders was funny.
I almost think that Cruise always wanted to make the movie with real cockpit video, but the actors all got tossed and puked and the cameras couldn't deal with it. I think he finally got the money to make it, the cameras he needed and actors (including himself) that could deal with the G's. And frankly, his time was ticking to get this done.
Everything I saw looked like a Navy F 18.
Adrenaline_6
12-16-19, 08:52
Everything I saw looked like a Navy F 18.
You didn't wait til the end obviously.
Everything I saw looked like a Navy F 18.
So you missed the F-14 in the beginning as well as the fake delta wing high altitude (he was wearing a pressure suit) plane at the end...
New Trailer, lots of questions.
WTF is that plane at the end?
There were rumors of them fighting Iran or some kind of Super Drones and that Maverick uses an F-35. Thats not an F-35. With all the new talk of trans-orbital extra-atmospheric flight....it looks like an SR-71ish fighter jet.
I do not know planes. Interesting for sure.
https://i.imgur.com/Fdgq3Qw.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/12/01/23A19E0900000578-2855795-image-6_1417435886599.jpg
All I know is that as a child of the 60's, I was told we'd be flying space planes on a regular basis by the year 2000. I became an airline pilot... I want my damn space plane!!!!
Did see the F14s....as a legacy aircraft I felt those weren’t relevant as they are no longer being used. So I skipped mentioning them. Those are nearly 25 years obsolete or so.
The thing at the end was so unrecognizable it did not register with me as anything I’ve seen before so I musta blanked or missed it or figured “meh another F 18.”
Okay....yeah saw it now. I didn’t wait til the end is right.
Fantasy plane for the movie.
All I know is that as a child of the 60's, I was told we'd be flying space planes on a regular basis by the year 2000. I became an airline pilot... I want my damn space plane!!!!
Well have you tried taking the Airbus up to space? Maybe you already got one!
Okay....yeah saw it now. I didn’t wait til the end is right.
Fantasy plane for the movie.
I don’t think so...
It looks SR-72ish. And reading up on it (what little there is) it can reportedly carry weapons.
titsonritz
12-16-19, 11:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5ZEqtD67g4
MountainRaven
12-16-19, 13:39
I guess Mav got himself a P-51, too.
Woulda been cooler if it were an F4U, though.
Diamondback
12-16-19, 13:56
I guess Mav got himself a P-51, too.
Woulda been cooler if it were an F4U, though.
Probably Tom Cruise's personal Mustang so they could save a few bucks on rental. But yeah, shoulda been a Corsair or a Hellcat to stick to Navy birds.
Tom Cruise is seriously shithouse crazy but yet I cannot think of a movie he was in that I hate or even moderately disliked. I mean he was in Collateral and then the Prequel to Collateral, The Color of Money.
I even liked the Mission Impossibles.
Every other actor will talk about wahmen of Hillary.
Tommyboy just wants you to swear 100,000 years of servitude to Xenu.
And yet, he’s still the lesser of the two evils!
I now want to see the SR-72 napalm a village....from space.
Grand58742
12-16-19, 14:43
Okay, I'm officially stoked over this one.
No shots of Iceman in this one that I saw.
Diamondback
12-16-19, 15:09
Tom Cruise is seriously shithouse crazy but yet I cannot think of a movie he was in that I hate or even moderately disliked. I mean he was in Collateral and then the Prequel to Collateral, The Color of Money.
I even liked the Mission Impossibles.
Every other actor will talk about wahmen of Hillary.
Tommyboy just wants you to swear 100,000 years of servitude to Xenu.
And yet, he’s still the lesser of the two evils!
I now want to see the SR-72 napalm a village....from space.
That's because TC understands that his job is to first and foremost MAKE MONEY. He's just a dancing monkey and has to be respected for being smart enough to know his role, do it well and make buy-fighter-planes bank at it. Even if he IS as whacked as a shithouse rat.
Grand58742
12-16-19, 15:17
Slightly dated article, but it appears the Navy says "nearly 60 year old pilots are okay."
https://www.stripes.com/news/us/top-gun-maverick-is-navy-approved-down-to-the-plot-details-1.592757
titsonritz
12-16-19, 18:22
I guess Maverick made a bunch of friends on the USS Theodore Roosevelt...
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/tom-cruise-pissed-the-whole-tr-off-uss-theodore-roosevelt-crew-slams-the-actor-for-his-arrogant-behavior-during-top-gun-sequel-filming/
Diamondback
12-16-19, 18:43
I guess Maverick made a bunch of friends on the USS Theodore Roosevelt...
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/tom-cruise-pissed-the-whole-tr-off-uss-theodore-roosevelt-crew-slams-the-actor-for-his-arrogant-behavior-during-top-gun-sequel-filming/
There's also this contradicting report on same site two days later:
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/tom-cruise-is-gracious-and-professional-during-filming-to-all-of-the-sailors-u-s-navy-says-accusations-about-tom-cruise-disrespecting-tr-crewmembers-are-unfounded/
Truth's probably somewhere in the middle.
My understanding is that Tom has a Colt 1911 collection that would impress John Browning.
Rumor mill has it that he is super handy with the steel as well. Some of his pistol work in various movies leads me to believe that to be true.
None of the above takes away from him being a squirrel of the nuttier variety. I have family(in law) that worked with him here in NOLA and said he was weird. For somone who was born and raised in NOLA to claim someone being weird, I took it at face value.
Dude makes cash, lotza cash, does a bunch of his own stunts and has been straight ballin since TAPS. Guy has several hits in every of the last 4 decades.
Squirrel
Since I rather doubt they had a SR 72 available for filming I’ll stick with the cgi-plane as a Hollywood (mis)representation of something they really don’t understand. Come to think of it that is how Hollywood portrays most things in life.
Since I rather doubt they had a SR 72 available for filming I’ll stick with the cgi-plane as a Hollywood (mis)representation of something they really don’t understand. Come to think of it that is how Hollywood portrays most things in life.
This film will be a real-time documentary
crosseyedshooter
12-17-19, 16:11
Tom Cruise is seriously shithouse crazy but yet I cannot think of a movie he was in that I hate or even moderately disliked.
http://youtu.be/SjMnXHzw534
Whiskey_Bravo
12-17-19, 16:52
http://youtu.be/SjMnXHzw534
And Tom Cruise looks almost identical to how he did in 1985. I submit that it's possible Tom Cruise is immortal.
FromMyColdDeadHand
12-17-19, 20:00
And Tom Cruise looks almost identical to how he did in 1985. I submit that it's possible Tom Cruise is immortal.
He killed goose and sucked the life energy out of Kelly McGillis and iceman.
Diamondback
12-17-19, 20:01
He killed goose and sucked the life energy out of Kelly McGillis and iceman.
So he's some new kind of vampire that can survive daylight... O.O
john armond
12-17-19, 20:24
Or something like in Lifeforce!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089489/
Adrenaline_6
12-19-19, 15:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz9lnIDdkMo
Pretty impressive.
"...I submit that it's possible Tom Cruise is immortal."
I submit that TC has the best plastic surgery available.
it didnt hurt that he looked 20 when he was 30.
"...I submit that it's possible Tom Cruise is immortal."
I submit that TC has the best plastic surgery available.
it didn't hurt that he looked 20 when he was 30.
FromMyColdDeadHand
12-20-19, 09:35
"...I submit that it's possible Tom Cruise is immortal."
I submit that TC has the best plastic surgery available.
it didn't hurt that he looked 20 when he was 30.
Even more impressive that he can pull those Gs with out crap shifting...
Grand58742
05-08-20, 18:36
I hate Covid 19...
https://screenrant.com/top-gun-2-maverick-release-date-delayed-coronavirus/
Top Gun: Maverick becomes the latest movie to be delayed due to the coronavirus pandemic, with a new release date in December.
I have to see this on the big screen... I can wait until Dec
FromMyColdDeadHand
04-25-21, 11:11
I think I'm done with this. It was supposed be be out this year right before July 4th ('Merica) but now it is moved to Nov 19th. 4th time it has been moved.
I'm done, really wanted to see this, but if you think things are going to be better in Nov than July, you are a moron. In the fall, there will be a new version of COVID or a threat of one and they will try to shut it all down again. We are open for the next 6 months.
At this rate, they are going to have to re-shoot since by the time it come out, the F18s will be retired.
Bat21, Bridges of Toko-Ri, Flight of the Intruder will have to fill the fix
Same. I was kinda psyched for this and Ghostbusters but now I couldn’t possibly care less. If they were cool they’d just go ahead and put it on HBO NOW and let us watch it at home since they don’t want us going anywhere. Honestly they’ll get more money that way than waiting and waiting for a big theatre affair.
FromMyColdDeadHand
04-25-21, 11:54
Same. I was kinda psyched for this and Ghostbusters but now I couldn’t possibly care less. If they were cool they’d just go ahead and put it on HBO NOW and let us watch it at home since they don’t want us going anywhere. Honestly they’ll get more money that way than waiting and waiting for a big theatre affair.
My guess is it has to do probably with some thing about the EU not probably opening up by a Midsummer time frame. I think that is a big mistake. How many of those commies are going to see a rah, rah American movie anyway.
ChattanoogaPhil
04-25-21, 12:00
Apparently, Kelly McGillis wasn't asked back for the sequel...
https://i.imgur.com/lj92nAl.jpg
FromMyColdDeadHand
04-25-21, 12:02
How man G’s is she pullling there....?
FromMyColdDeadHand
04-25-21, 16:46
I like Tom Cruise movies and I appreciate the personal risk he takes for authentic looking shots. But to be frank, I can fly my DCS and watch youtube videos of real fighter pilots tell real stories. Plus, you'll learn more about the academics and theory in one Growling Sidewinder youtube video than all the movies ever made. Plus, I saw a breakdown of the trailer, and it looks like they are going full 'Iron Eagle'.
titsonritz
04-25-21, 18:16
Apparently, Kelly McGillis wasn't asked back for the sequel...
https://i.imgur.com/lj92nAl.jpg
If only they gave her the shot...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntMgpWcenkE
Grand58742
04-26-21, 06:53
This was one of the few I was actually going to go to the theater and watch. Since they decided to keep pushing it back, I'm officially over that excitement and will pass.
I'll wait until it comes out on Amazon.
Someone wants see a F4U Corsair over a P51D Mustang?
Sacrilegious, heresy even I say ...
Is this movie ever coming out?
Apparently, Kelly McGillis wasn't asked back for the sequel...
https://i.imgur.com/lj92nAl.jpg
Oofta she didn’t age well AT ALL
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FromMyColdDeadHand
04-26-21, 10:28
This is taking forever to come out. Hell, The girl that Matt Geatz asked to go see it will be legal by the time it comes out..
Oofta she didn’t age well AT ALL
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Brings new meaning to the term "Grandma Sag"...
Gabriel556
04-26-21, 18:49
Yeah, I was excited for this to come out, and even talked to some friends about booking a whole theatre as that’s something you could do for a reasonable price and invite 30 people to join. Unfortunately(or fortunately) with the multiple pushbacks, my basement theatre room will be completed before it’s out and at that point, I’ll just watch it in my own home with a nice bourbon or maybe a few beers out of my homebrew tap that’s been taking up space in my garage for the basement.
Diamondback
04-26-21, 18:52
Someone wants see a F4U Corsair over a P51D Mustang?
Sacrilegious, heresy even I say ...
Corsair's more rugged, AND can land on a carrier. Mustang can't. Tradeoffs... if I'm tangling with Messerschmitts exclusively I want a Mustang, if I'm doing air-to-air against more rugged targets or fighter-bomber from land I want a P-47. If I'm going out to tangle with Zeroes and their 20mm's over Pacific waters I want a Corsair or a Hellcat... on the other hand, if I'm doing a sneak attack on Yamamoto I want a P-38. As they say, "horses for courses."
Shoulda put the Mustangs out to pasture and kept the Jugs for CAS over Korea, though.
FromMyColdDeadHand
04-27-21, 06:48
That P47N was a pretty all-around beast. I see the Taiwanese used them, I'd like to hear more about those. With the right gas, prop and forced induction settings....
Adrenaline_6
04-27-21, 08:46
Corsair's more rugged, AND can land on a carrier. Mustang can't. Tradeoffs... if I'm tangling with Messerschmitts exclusively I want a Mustang, if I'm doing air-to-air against more rugged targets or fighter-bomber from land I want a P-47. If I'm going out to tangle with Zeroes and their 20mm's over Pacific waters I want a Corsair or a Hellcat... on the other hand, if I'm doing a sneak attack on Yamamoto I want a P-38. As they say, "horses for courses."
Shoulda put the Mustangs out to pasture and kept the Jugs for CAS over Korea, though.
Love the P-38 Lightnings. If they could have made it more unstable, it would have been a beast in it's time.
Corsair's more rugged, AND can land on a carrier. Mustang can't. Tradeoffs... if I'm tangling with Messerschmitts exclusively I want a Mustang, if I'm doing air-to-air against more rugged targets or fighter-bomber from land I want a P-47. If I'm going out to tangle with Zeroes and their 20mm's over Pacific waters I want a Corsair or a Hellcat... on the other hand, if I'm doing a sneak attack on Yamamoto I want a P-38. As they say, "horses for courses."
Shoulda put the Mustangs out to pasture and kept the Jugs for CAS over Korea, though.
My neighbor's dad was a Marine pilot in WW2 and Korea, flew the F4U. When he'd visit I'd chat him up. He said they were hell to land on carriers because one wing would stall before the other, and the placement of the fuel tanks, cockpit, and engine shifted the center of gravity and made it unstable at low speed, and hoe far aft the cockpit was made it hard to see well with the nose up. He hated it as a carrier AC, but loved it as a land-based fighter and attack AC. Also the lowest AC loss rate on the Pacific. Interestingly, some countries flew them as late as 1969.
When the man died, he left me all of his Marine uniforms and flightsuit, which I donated to the Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola.
Diamondback
04-27-21, 15:31
Chuckman, you might appreciate this little piece several years ago about the creative unplanned use VMF-122 found for their Corsairs as ice-cream machines...
https://redstate.com/diary/diamondback/2018/12/05/redstates-watercooler-125-open-thread-jarhead-ingenuity-n239570
FromMyColdDeadHand
09-06-21, 15:30
Now May 2022… F them. Pretty much done here. I’m throwing the BS flag and saying that the movie sucks, and they are trying to edit their way out of it. Get Zack Snyder to re shoot it or STFU.
https://youtu.be/J_uom071f30
Trash if true. I agree, they need to dump the opening if true. When the video explained the scene I immediately though of The Right Stuff. They just plagiarized one of the best jet stories ever done with a real jet instead of CGI B.S..
Here is the opening scene from Top Gun II:
https://youtu.be/NAbRRpI8ohU
Trash if true. I agree, they need to dump the opening if true. When the video explained the scene I immediately though of The Right Stuff. They just plagiarized one of the best jet stories ever done with a real jet instead of CGI B.S..
Here is the opening scene from Top Gun II:
https://youtu.be/NAbRRpI8ohU
The Right Stuff was a fantastic movie and an even better book.
FromMyColdDeadHand
09-07-21, 15:24
I like the Yeager parts the best. Sometimes I read the beginning and end of the book and leave out the playboys ;)
Love the story about the muddy lake bed…
https://sierrahotel.net/blogs/news/poor-ol-neil-armstrong
With that Marvel movie Feng Shui doing so well at the box office, there is no way that they’ll release Maverick outside of theaters.
A love letter to aviation? More like a cock tease…
Maybe they're waiting on Axel Rose for a soundtrack?
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I like the Yeager parts the best. Sometimes I read the beginning and end of the book and leave out the playboys ;)
Love the story about the muddy lake bed…
https://sierrahotel.net/blogs/news/poor-ol-neil-armstrong
With that Marvel movie Feng Shui doing so well at the box office, there is no way that they’ll release Maverick outside of theaters.
A love letter to aviation? More like a cock tease…
They’re waiting for a clear spot to release it. They just swapped the dates for Mission Impossible and Maverick, which is now Memorial Day 2022.
There is sooo much sitting on the shelf waiting to hit theaters that it’s tough to find dates for everything.
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FromMyColdDeadHand
04-28-22, 10:45
LESS THAN A MONTH TO GO!!!!!
May24th, supposedly- but I feel like they are the guy with the fishing rod pulling the cash out of the way at the last second...
https://youtu.be/isqYaFRQaLs
FromMyColdDeadHand
05-04-22, 08:50
https://www.sandboxx.us/blog/top-gun-maverick-producer-says-darkstar-looked-so-real-china-moved-spy-satellite-to-see-it%EF%BF%BC/
China supposedly moved a satellite to take a picture of the dummy hypersonic airplane in the new top gun movie. Or maybe it’s just fluff.
^^^ Meh... Won't be the first time the commies freaked over a plastic plane. Wait until you roll a movie prop around a live nuclear carrier... THAT gets attention.
Yeah... The movie sucked but it turned a few heads in the foreign intelligence services for a day or two until they figured things out.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f9/48/98/f94898f9a076d2133173c0cbb54d84ab--stealth-aircraft-fighter-aircraft.jpg
https://static.cinemagia.ro/img/db/movie/01/00/38/stealth-737864l.jpg
The_War_Wagon
05-04-22, 09:29
https://i.ibb.co/VJkwG8y/sky-weiner.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/3N283hQ/sky-weiner1.jpg
I want to see to find out how Maverick gets in the seat of a F-14, Ward Carroll former F-14 GIB got an advanced screening and had this to say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm6eSLU0uGU
Johnny Rico
05-04-22, 10:20
https://i.ibb.co/VJkwG8y/sky-weiner.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/3N283hQ/sky-weiner1.jpg
:haha:
I am counting down to see this..
FromMyColdDeadHand
05-04-22, 23:03
Had the wife buy tickets for the IMAX screening.. but we can’t get the family together until Sat night when it comes out..
I told her that by then I would have already seen it, a few times…
I want to see to find out how Maverick gets in the seat of a F-14, Ward Carroll former F-14 GIB got an advanced screening and had this to say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm6eSLU0uGU
As a self-diagnosed aviation junkie (esp. Naval aviation) I follow his YT channel. He has some awesome videos.
Looking forward to see this!!!
FromMyColdDeadHand
05-05-22, 08:34
Can't wait for the "Mover Ruins Movies" edition for TG2 :) That guy is interesting to watch too.
donlapalma
05-05-22, 15:02
Got my tickets and babysitter for opening night. Let's do this.
FromMyColdDeadHand
05-05-22, 17:36
Got my tickets and babysitter for opening night. Let's do this.
Does she know you don't have kids? Are her parents OK with you taking her to see the movie?
Averageman
05-05-22, 17:41
Does she know you don't have kids? Are her parents OK with you taking her to see the movie?
You know she's going to want a large Soda and a Large Popcorn right?
Even if it gets stuck in her braces.
FromMyColdDeadHand
05-24-22, 22:42
Saw it tonight at a ‘special showing’. Got a pin and a Top Gun popcorn tin.
Good movie, better than the original. Really builds on the original, aping some scenes almost directly, invoking the spirit in others. Overall, a good flick.
Saw it tonight at a ‘special showing’. Got a pin and a Top Gun popcorn tin.
Good movie, better than the original. Really builds on the original, aping some scenes almost directly, invoking the spirit in others. Overall, a good flick.
Good to hear. This one has me more hyped than any other movie i can think of in a long time.
Ward Carroll's full review (spoiler alert):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itlyBtNoJHw
Awesome movie one of the better I have seen in awhile. Definitely one to watch on the big screen
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Straight Shooter
05-29-22, 17:36
Wait a tic....I thought we were boycotting Hollywood, NFL, NBA, ect, ect.....is that still a thing or not? Axin for a friend.
Wait a tic....I thought we were boycotting Hollywood, NFL, NBA, ect, ect.....is that still a thing or not? Axin for a friend.
I never did.
Movie was great.
I liked it. OK, the whole F-14 sequence may have been stretching things a bit but not a bad flick.
Rebels attack on the original Death Star :)
Fun movie. It definitely needs to be seen on the big screen with an audience. The flight cinematography is amazing.
Grand58742
05-30-22, 19:14
I liked it. OK, the whole F-14 sequence may have been stretching things a bit but not a bad flick.
Agreed, but the parts leading up to it were funny in a movie that really wasn't comedy.
"What were you thinking?!"
"You told me not to think!"
All in all, it was better than the original IMO. I liked the principle behind it, loved the cast and the in flight scenes were amazing.
Go watch it in theaters. Better yet, pay the money for the 4-D experience. Holy crap.
Best movie in a long time, not woke, real airplanes and the Japanese and Taiwan flags are back on the flight jacket. And Cruise's P-51 is to die for.
Saw it at an IMAX theater today....best movie I have seen in a long time......
FromMyColdDeadHand
05-31-22, 16:28
Saw it at an IMAX theater today....best movie I have seen in a long time......
Saw it with the family at an IMAX. During the previews, I could tell that my wife was having issues with the scope of the screen, and we were almost at the back, plus those seats are small, the 'pitch' of the seating is steep- and we were towards the back, but dead center. The movie is well tailored to the IMAX format- so the issues with the screen went away with the movie coming on. HIghly suggest it at the IMAX.
I'm waiting for "Top Gun vs the Cylons".
Diamondback
05-31-22, 17:44
I'm waiting for "Top Gun vs the Cylons".
Maverick's gotta beat Skynet's H-K's first...
fedupflyer
05-31-22, 18:03
Rebels attack on the original Death Star :)
I though it was more like Iron Eagle meets Star Wars.
Or
Iron Eagle 4 on a big budget.
Saw it on an IMAX screen yesterday. Perfect.
I guess people will still give Hollywood their money no matter how disgusting these psychopaths behave. :(
Supporting a movie like Maverick is like poking woke Hollyweird in the eye with a sharp stick.
What really surprised me about this movie is the reviewers score it got on Rotten Tomatoes 97%, I think it might finally be starting to sink in that all that woke crap ain't selling.
Also good that it will serve as an illustration that a good movie doesn't have to kowtow to China to be a success.
Johnny Rico
06-02-22, 17:45
By my calculations Maverick has to be pushing 60 and he's still a fighter/test pilot.
I know it's a movie, but much respect.
I can't even ride roller coasters anymore without feeling queasy for the next couple of hours.
Tom Cruise will be 60 on July 3 and still flying that P-51.
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-02-22, 20:27
By my calculations Maverick has to be pushing 60 and he's still a fighter/test pilot.
I know it's a movie, but much respect.
I can't even ride roller coasters anymore without feeling queasy for the next couple of hours.
But then there is the life he sucked out of Kellly McGillis, Meg Ryan, and Val Kilmer- never mind Goose…
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-02-22, 20:27
By my calculations Maverick has to be pushing 60 and he's still a fighter/test pilot.
I know it's a movie, but much respect.
I can't even ride roller coasters anymore without feeling queasy for the next couple of hours.
But then there is the life he sucked out of Kellly McGillis, Meg Ryan, and Val Kilmer- never mind Goose…
I haven’t been to the theater in 5+ years. I will be going to see this again for the second time. I honestly liked the first one better. It seemed more natural/real to me. But this one was amazing I thought. It was funny, the flying was awesome and knowing that cruise actually got all the actors up into REAL jets and put them through maneuvers and g forces was really great. Screw China too. They can take their bs and shove it up their ass. Glad the Taiwan flag was on there.
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Awesome movie one of the better I have seen in awhile. Definitely one to watch on the big screen
^^^This!^^^
TC ‘formulaic’? Yes …
Entertaining? Oh HELL yes!
… a MUST see on the big screen, err … widout de babysitter, LOL!
Not much of a movie critic here, but I enjoyed it a lot, saw it on IMAX, which I recommend. I always appreciate it when they keep the filthy language down and the overt sex stuff to a minimum. I also appreciate that Cruise didn't gay the thing up.
. I also appreciate that Cruise didn't gay the thing up.
What about the bare chest, sweaty beach two way football scene?
What about the bare chest, sweaty beach two way football scene?
Wait, that was gay!!!??? My wife and I were joking whether that was a bit of homo-erotica or not (like the original volley ball/locker room scenes). Maybe it was....dang I've been indoctrinated!
I can remember when the Army kinda/sorta tried to have their own "Top Gun"-type movie. It was called "Firebirds" (aka "Wings Of The Apache"), released in 1990 IIRC. The Army cooperated by supplying Apaches and filming locations, but the movie itself was pretty bad. Saw it in the theatre back then. Nicholas Cage was really over the top as a self-absorbed pilot.
Not much of a movie critic here, but I enjoyed it a lot, saw it on IMAX, which I recommend. I always appreciate it when they keep the filthy language down and the overt sex stuff to a minimum. I also appreciate that Cruise didn't gay the thing up.
Is violence okay, though?
Diamondback
06-04-22, 18:28
I can remember when the Army kinda/sorta tried to have their own "Top Gun"-type movie. It was called "Firebirds" (aka "Wings Of The Apache"), released in 1990 IIRC. The Army cooperated by supplying Apaches and filming locations, but the movie itself was pretty bad. Saw it in the theatre back then. Nicholas Cage was really over the top as a self-absorbed pilot.
Ugh... Firrebirds made Iron Eagle II look good.
Is violence okay, though?
The violence is make believe, is the gay indoctrination in movies make believe?
You may think me inconsistent, but I think the violence in some movies is ok, this one was good guys verses bad guys so I'm ok with it. I saw the Northman too, that violence wasn't ok in my view. Nothing but murder, and revenge...it really put pagans in a bad light IMO.
Ron...question...do you like the gay stuff in movies, you enjoy men kissing men, women kissing women in non platonic ways?
Ugh... Firrebirds made Iron Eagle II look good.
Sean Young looked good with the Stinger, though.
https://i.imgur.com/7drUMvt.jpg
The violence is make believe, is the gay indoctrination in movies make believe?
You may think me inconsistent, but I think the violence in some movies is ok, this one was good guys verses bad guys so I'm ok with it. I saw the Northman too, that violence wasn't ok in my view. Nothing but murder, and revenge...it really put pagans in a bad light IMO.
Ron...question...do you like the gay stuff in movies, you enjoy men kissing men, women kissing women in non platonic ways etc. etc.?
I find it weird when people object to foul language and sex in entertainment because that's "unwholesome" or "bad for kids" or "evil" or "un-Christian" but violence is fine. :confused:
But to answer your question; no, I don't enjoy watching men kissing men. But it doesn't bother me if others do. Women? Yea, I can watch that. :cool:
The violence is make believe, is the gay indoctrination in movies make believe?
You may think me inconsistent, but I think the violence in some movies is ok, this one was good guys verses bad guys so I'm ok with it. I saw the Northman too, that violence wasn't ok in my view. Nothing but murder, and revenge...it really put pagans in a bad light IMO.
Ron...question...do you like the gay stuff in movies, you enjoy men kissing men, women kissing women in non platonic ways etc. etc.?
I find it weird when people object to foul language and sex in entertainment because that's "unwholesome" or "bad for kids" or "evil" or "un-Christian" but violence is fine. :confused:
But to answer your question; no, I don't enjoy watching men kissing men. But it doesn't bother me if others do. Women? Yea, I can watch that. :cool:
I find it weird when people object to foul language and sex in entertainment because that's "unwholesome" or "bad for kids" or "evil" or "un-Christian" but violence is fine. :confused:
But to answer your question; no, I don't enjoy watching men kissing men. But it doesn't bother me if others do. Women? Yea, I can watch that. :cool:
I've not watched movies because of language, I generally don't enjoy movies where the F word is constantly used. As for violence...the bible doesn't teach that all violence is bad, God Himself uses violence to bring judgement. Self defense is violence that is sanctioned.
So, male homosexually isn't so good, but you're cool with female homosexuality. And this is the kind of stuff where guns just can never ever ever bring guys like you and guys like me together, we live in two different realities.
titsonritz
06-04-22, 19:54
I've not watched movies because of language, I generally don't enjoy movies where the F word is constantly used. As for violence...the bible doesn't teach that all violence is bad, God Himself uses violence to bring judgement. Self defense is violence that is sanctioned.
So, male homosexually isn't so good, but you're cool with female homosexuality. And this is the kind of stuff where guns just can never ever ever bring guys like you and guys like me together, we live in two different realities.
Depends on the movie, it wouldn't be very realistic to watch a gang banger movie without it being laced with F-bombs and N-words.
I've not watched movies because of language, I generally don't enjoy movies where the F word is constantly used. As for violence...the bible doesn't teach that all violence is bad, God Himself uses violence to bring judgement. Self defense is violence that is sanctioned.
So, male homosexually isn't so good, but you're cool with female homosexuality. And this is the kind of stuff where guns just can never ever ever bring guys like you and guys like me together, we live in two different realities.
IMO homosexuality just is. No point stressing about it.
But I get you don't want to see any of it, and especially when you're paying to see the film.
So...you don't associate with people who think differently than you on this? "That's way harsh, Ty..."
Depends on the movie, it wouldn't be very realistic to watch a gang banger movie without it being laced with F-bombs and N-words.
Maybe, but I think it would be worth a try. I've watch a few movies lately I found enjoyable that didn't resort to mountains of bad language, sex and revenge filled violence.
IMO homosexuality just is. No point stressing about it.
But I get you don't want to see any of it, and especially when you're paying to see the film.
So...you don't associate with people who think differently than you on this? "That's way harsh, Ty..."
I associate with all kinds of people, almost all of them unbelievers. I associate myself with the people on this forum from time to time through my computer. If when I am with them things move in a direction that I find to be wrong, I disassociate myself. I don't preach to them very often. I just don't fool myself by thinking that some how we're friends. Christ has a pretty narrow view of what a "friend" actually is, and unbelievers don't qualify. I may not be of this world, but I am in this world and there are things all Christians are call to do. I do recognize my inconsistencies most of the time, but I am working on it. When I see homosexuality portrayed, promoted, or engaged in, I don't see people just engaged in some indifferent lifestyle, I see lost people given over to utter destruction.
Saw it today on the big screen with great audio. Fun flick.
Still had to suspend my belief though. How did Penny afford to own a bar, a beach side cottage, and a vintage Porsche as a single mom on Coronado Island?
Saw it today on the big screen with great audio. Fun flick.
Still had to suspend my belief though. How did Penny afford to own a bar, a beach side cottage, and a vintage Porsche as a single mom on Coronado Island?
She bought a lot Amazon, Tesla, and Microsoft when they first IPO'd. One smart cookie that Penny is. I was wondering how Maverick and her got away with riding a motorcycle helmetless so much in California. And I was really looking hard on the back of that Porsche to see if it was a T, E, or S. The magic of movies.
Penny was an Admirals daughter, she might have inherited some of that real estate.
She bought a lot Amazon, Tesla, and Microsoft when they first IPO'd. One smart cookie that Penny is. I was wondering how Maverick and her got away with riding a motorcycle helmetless so much in California. And I was really looking hard on the back of that Porsche to see if it was a T, E, or S. The magic of movies.
The helmet law issue had us laughing too. Coronado PD are quick to ticket... ;)
Oh, and she also was able to afford the sailboat and a monthly slip fees. That's not cheap down there either...
Diamondback
06-05-22, 23:04
The helmet law issue had us laughing too. Coronado PD are quick to ticket... ;)
Oh, and she also was able to afford the sailboat and a monthly slip fees. That's not cheap down there either...
FOGO's usually do very well for themselves in retirement if they can hook up with a major defense contractor... and we don't know how much the guy who knocked her up made to cough up in child support.
My personal suspicion would be at least some of it was inherited from Dad. At least the car, possibly the boat and if he had the slip as part of a club membership they may have transferred it to her as a "Legacy."
I was pretty excited for this back in 1943 when it was first announced. But it was pretty meh. I don't know...It just didn't resonate with me all that much. Not anywhere near the anticipation of its awesomeness, anyway.
And I was super annoyed by the obvious Star Wars-ness of their plan. I kept waiting for Maverick to say it would be like bullseye-ing womp rats in a T-16 back home.
OutofBatt3ry
06-17-22, 17:23
Round two attempt successful today. My kid was being too rambunctious a couple weeks ago when we first went and saw it. I didn't want to be 'that guy' with an annoying kid so we left about 45minutes into the movie.
We went to a mid-day showing today, this time with threats of severe punishments if he acted up again. Made it through.
It was ok.......Who am I kidding? It was f*cking awesome. Best movie I've seen in years. No woke bullshit, clean enough for a 6y/o to watch. Loud jets, incredible cinematography, and a decent ending. What else do you want?
BoringGuy45
06-17-22, 20:41
I was pretty excited for this back in 1943 when it was first announced. But it was pretty meh. I don't know...It just didn't resonate with me all that much. Not anywhere near the anticipation of its awesomeness, anyway.
And I was super annoyed by the obvious Star Wars-ness of their plan. I kept waiting for Maverick to say it would be like bullseye-ing womp rats in a T-16 back home.
I actually loved the Star Wars reference of the mission! I took it as a bit of a passive-aggressive shot at Disney royally screwing up The Force Awakens.
I actually loved the Star Wars reference of the mission! I took it as a bit of a passive-aggressive shot at Disney royally screwing up The Force Awakens.
I took my 17 year old son to see this today and we both thoroughly enjoyed it. The reference to SW was obvious and done right.
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-18-22, 17:53
It is interesting until you realize the Air Force could have made it a 7 minute movie…. B2s and F22s FTW.
I’m surprised that the Navy didn’t make them bring in a Fat Amy to take out the Su-57….
BoringGuy45
06-18-22, 22:11
It is interesting until you realize the Air Force could have made it a 7 minute movie…. B2s and F22s FTW.
I’m surprised that the Navy didn’t make them bring in a Fat Amy to take out the Su-57….
One thing I didn't understand was that they couldn't send F-35s into the canyon for some reason (I forget why) and they were worried about the F/A-18s going up against the Su-57s. So, why not send the Hornets to do the bombing run, and have a few F-35s off the coast to go in and handle the Su-57s once they tried to engage the Hornets?
One thing I didn't understand was that they couldn't send F-35s into the canyon for some reason (I forget why) and they were worried about the F/A-18s going up against the Su-57s. So, why not send the Hornets to do the bombing run, and have a few F-35s off the coast to go in and handle the Su-57s once they tried to engage the Hornets?
Something to do with the GPS on the planes not working in the valley where the target vent was. I guess Lockheed/Martin missed that problem when cranking up a new 5th gen fighter.
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-18-22, 23:35
Hell when they wrote this, probably when they filmed it, f35s and weren’t flying yet…
Actually I’ve read some analysis that they kind of had to make this movie now, before Cruise needs a walker, but more the fact that these aircraft and air warfare are becoming more and more systems integration oriented, and the stick in Rudder and fly by the seat of your pants is going away. They kind of touched on that with Cruise flying the aurora airplane in the very beginning. And how he doesn’t fit into that. That and the coming of drones.
Hell when they wrote this, probably when they filmed it, f35s and weren’t flying yet…
Actually I’ve read some analysis that they kind of had to make this movie now, before Cruise needs a walker, but more the fact that these aircraft and air warfare are becoming more and more systems integration oriented, and the stick in Rudder and fly by the seat of your pants is going away. They kind of touched on that with Cruise flying the aurora airplane in the very beginning. And how he doesn’t fit into that. That and the coming of drones.
There were (F-35s), and there's one in a scene. I was told that there weren't enough tandem seat F-35s to make it the primary AC in the movie.
Remember, this movie was filmed in 2018.
Diamondback
06-19-22, 11:47
There were (F-35s), and there's one in a scene. I was told that there weren't enough tandem seat F-35s to make it the primary AC in the movie.
Remember, this movie was filmed in 2018.
If memory serves there are no trunk-monkey F-35s, period, just like the F-22.
SilverBullet432
06-19-22, 12:09
Watched it last Saturday, best movie I’ve seen in years. Can’t wait for it to drop on Blu-Ray.
If memory serves there are no trunk-monkey F-35s, period, just like the F-22.
I *think Israel flies a 2-seat variant, but that's it. I am not sure of it is purchased like that or modified after purchase; also not sure if it was a test AC or an operational AC. I had to google to find out. There are a few pics out there.
Diamondback
06-19-22, 15:02
I *think Israel flies a 2-seat variant, but that's it. I am not sure of it is purchased like that or modified after purchase; also not sure if it was a test AC or an operational AC. I had to google to find out. There are a few pics out there.
I know they were talking about it, but you'd need almost an entire new forward-fuselage unit.
I *think Israel flies a 2-seat variant, but that's it. I am not sure of it is purchased like that or modified after purchase; also not sure if it was a test AC or an operational AC. I had to google to find out. There are a few pics out there.
There isn’t currently a two seat variant, the pics out in the wild are probably photoshopped. Israel has been pushing Lockmart to build a two seater but so far no...
Honestly by the time Israeli engineers could modify one of their own into a two seater, technology will probably exist on an updated airframe making a second pilot pointless.
The plane already has amazing capabilities as it is, combining it with the loyal wingman program makes more sense.
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