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Is there a type of pepper spray product more suitable than others to leave in your vehicle when that vehicle often sits out in the hot sun?
Obviously it could be kept of direct sunlight, but even the the interior of a vehicle can be 130-140 degrees.
Would say, the Kimber Pepper Blaster be more suitable for this than a larger can?
I wanted to start keeping a can of pepper in my vehicle but I'm concerned about it bursting or a seal failing. Would be a disaster for your vehicle to have an OC bomb go of in it, wouldn't it?!
Would be undrivable until the mess got cleaned up.
I have avoided a fire extinguisher in my truck for exactly the same fear. I’ve seen pics of what it looks like when an extinguisher explodes. Can’t imagine the added hassle of OC thrown in!!!!
geezer john
Let us make this a pepper spray general discussion thread. I would also like to know the answer to the question the OP ask and others. Other question #1... My wife after a crash, had to give up riding a traditional bicycle and move to a recumbent trike. At 65 years old a $58,000 wrist surgery finally convinced her to get off of the 2 wheel bike! The problem now is dogs. From the elevated riding position on a regular bike you at least have a chance to kick them and try to get away. With the recumbent trike they are in you face. Even though we live on an island considered a luxury destination by most people we have a native population living on heirs property that consider the Pitbull a status symbol! Our local government can't do anything without being called racist! What is the best spray to repel bad ass dogs? Preferably one that puts out a stream rather than a mist the blows back into the face of the user.
Weird timing, I've also been wondering about pepper spray and fire extinguishers this past week. I figured there'd already be answers online, just hadn't looked yet.
Yea, the idea of leaving it in the vehicle is for non-lethal force against the road ragers to protect myself and property.
I used to keep some at home but it was old and I sprayed / disposed of it. Actually several throughout the years. Most still worked, some did not.
Anyway, I wanted to get cans for our vehicles, but have concerns about heat.
El Vaquero
07-28-19, 20:09
Here in Texas I’ve seen many cans of OC spray go kaboom in the trunks and interiors of many an officers personal vehicles. And yes, it gets everywhere. It’s not pretty. I don’t think it’s brand specific. We’ve changed brands a few times and it happens every year to some rookie. I think anything like that under pressure runs the risk of going kaboom.
Here in Texas I’ve seen many cans of OC spray go kaboom in the trunks and interiors of many an officers personal vehicles. And yes, it gets everywhere. It’s not pretty. I don’t think it’s brand specific. We’ve changed brands a few times and it happens every year to some rookie. I think anything like that under pressure runs the risk of going kaboom.
Unfortunately I think you're right.
Perhaps a Taser or some other less-lethal melee weapon would store better.
I've had pepper spray in the door panel for years, maybe decades as we couldn't wear it on our duty belt for years. I've never had an issue and have never heard of an issue around here with many patrol deputies doing the same thing. The highs in the summer are frequently 100 with 90% humidity. YMMV but the law enforcement products are proven and available.
Is there a type of pepper spray product more suitable than others to leave in your vehicle when that vehicle often sits out in the hot sun?
Obviously it could be kept of direct sunlight, but even the the interior of a vehicle can be 130-140 degrees.
Would say, the Kimber Pepper Blaster be more suitable for this than a larger can?
I wanted to start keeping a can of pepper in my vehicle but I'm concerned about it bursting or a seal failing. Would be a disaster for your vehicle to have an OC bomb go of in it, wouldn't it?!
Would be undrivable until the mess got cleaned up.
I just posted this response on your other thread about dogs. I carry the small canisters in my pocket every day and temps here are over 100 almost every day in summer. I leave the "bear spray" size canisters in all of my cars. I do use window shades, but the interiors of the cars get hot as an oven anyway. Never had one pop and I've been doin it this way for around a decade.
From the other thread:
"Pepper spray. "Counter Assault" is my brand of choice. The 1.4 ounce size is part of my EDC along with a folder in the other pocket and a Surefire in a belt holster. At home and in the car, I have the full size "bear spray" size canisters.
Works like a charm on A-hole dogs and two legged A-holes as well.
I arrived at this brand because a friend of mine owns and trains bears. Every once in a while one of them needs a little reminder to play nicely with the weak humans, and this stuff works. Several of the companies that make pepper spray send him product to try for free. Some of them have shoddy packaging or weak tops. Some of them don't last for very long, and some of them are ineffective. I met the manufacturer at the SHOT show one year and he explained why some of his competitors stuff was crap and how it is supposed to be done. Been using his products, successfully, for about a decade now. The labels wear off of the small canisters in my pocket over time. About once a year, when the wind is favorable, I'll do some practice with the old canister and replace it with a brand new one. I buy cases of the two sizes, so I always have it on hand and give it to friends and family too."
Yea, the idea of leaving it in the vehicle is for non-lethal force against the road ragers to protect myself and property.
The bear spray canister fills a car up nicely and takes the fight right out of some lunatic that chases you down and follows you for miles because of some perceive "sleight" they think you've committed. Hypothetically, when shot into a late model, let's say Toyota Camry, and let's hypothetically call it white, the entire car clouds up with it. Gives you plenty of time to drive away without a fight or any confrontation. Hypothetically...
El Vaquero
07-28-19, 22:32
The bear spray canister fills a car up nicely and takes the fight right out of some lunatic that chases you down and follows you for miles because of some perceive "sleight" they think you've committed. Hypothetically, when shot into a late model, let's say Toyota Camry, and let's hypothetically call it white, the entire car clouds up with it. Gives you plenty of time to drive away without a fight or any confrontation. Hypothetically...
Well played. I think I might pay to see that hypothetical play out, lol. OC spray either works or it doesn’t, when it works, it’s usually pretty effective. And bear spray is some good stuff. I can’t see (pun intended), anyone driving away from that for at least a good 10 minutes.
So I lived in Florida for years, kept pepper spray in the glove compartment without issue. So long as you buy professional grade / law enforcement grade stuff it won't explode on you.
Kiddie makes vehicle specific fire extinguishers that are dry powder and won't explode. They are also damn useful for stuff like engine fires where you don't want to spray foamy crap all over. I once used one to put out someone else's engine fire and was amazed how well it worked.
Well played. I think I might pay to see that hypothetical play out, lol. OC spray either works or it doesn’t, when it works, it’s usually pretty effective. And bear spray is some good stuff. I can’t see (pun intended), anyone driving away from that for at least a good 10 minutes.
Just a word of caution.
Bear spray in the confines of a vehicle is potentially lethal. It can cause asphyxiation if people have a severe reaction to it and it can also stress some people to the point where they have some kind of cardiac reaction.
Do not just use bear spray as a pepper spray substitute. It is some pretty severe stuff. You are much better off getting ahold of genuine law enforcement grade pepper spray. That stuff is actually pretty hardcore and I've seen people with serious mental conditions or under the influence of serious drugs who were using meth or pcp go down immediately. I've only heard of rare instances where it is ineffective, never actually seen it.
To understand the differences between capsaicin levels start here: https://www.sabrered.com/law-enforcement-formulations-heat-strength-and-law
I had a can of FOX that lasted a long time. (still worked after about 10 years!)
I'll probably get FOX of Sabre. 4 oz can or so.
Wouldn't mind about 3 oz can and a belt holster.
Nightvisionary
07-29-19, 09:10
I carry a can of First Defense OC on my gear in the Sonoran Desert. Outside temps have been as high as 115 degrees and even hotter inside the vehicle but I make sure to keep the can out of direct sunlight.
gunnerblue
07-29-19, 09:54
Buy a professional grade product (Sabre, Vexor, etc.) and keep it out of direct sunlight and you'll be fine. I've seen it work against people and animals and I've seen it fail against both as well. You might consider some type of impact weapon as well- a hickory axe handle is pretty innocuous by itself.
Buy a professional grade product (Sabre, Vexor, etc.) and keep it out of direct sunlight and you'll be fine. I've seen it work against people and animals and I've seen it fail against both as well. You might consider some type of impact weapon as well- a hickory axe handle is pretty innocuous by itself.
I'm leaning against the OC cannister. It just gets way too hot in a car sitting in the sun. (even if the can itself is kept out of the sun)
The problem with an impact weapon is it's considered "deadly force" in my state the same as a gun. But, it still might look a little better to the cops and a jury should it get that far.
I'm leaning against the OC cannister. It just gets way too hot in a car sitting in the sun. (even if the can itself is kept out of the sun)
The problem with an impact weapon is it's considered "deadly force" in my state the same as a gun. But, it still might look a little better to the cops and a jury should it get that far.
Walking stick.
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