Most mass shooters were Democrats claim

[WillBrink]

Hard to find accurate lists on that as those compiling then often don't report it accurately thus calling into validity of the claim. It seems most have been Democrats or not affiliated with a party, since Columbine at least, but it seems difficult to find a vetted list. Do you have a link to such a thing? In their zeal to show most of these shooters were Democrats they often dump the non affiliated types into the Dem category, and thus totally invalidate their claims and are cannon fodder for leftist "fact checking" pages like Snopes. Trying a Google search demonstrates clearly that Google has made sure that info does not show up easily or at all.

Anyone have a source? I'd suggest a vetted data/2A support section/FAQ could be helpful as finding accurate info getting more difficult due to active censorship.

[jsbhike]

I am betting on BS based on historical facts vs. Republican/conservative/gun community myths including, but certainly not limited to, Obama phones that started getting handed out summer 2008 during Bush 2. Several pinned on Clinton that was actually done during Bush 1:

-shafting of the Weaver family (summer 1992)
-AK, G3, FAL ban (spring 1989) plus extra nail in coffin by Bush 2 summer 2005.

[Doc Safari]

Most mass shooters are demon obsessed or possessed with mental health issues, even if not made public. The left programs people to be godless and amoral, and to have a chip on one's shoulder toward the "injustice" in our country. The leftist culture in this country is creating an army of Charles Manson-type psychos.

[Doc Safari]

This is timely:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-06/heres-what-criminology-professor-learned-studying-every-mass-shooting-1966


For two years, we’ve been studying the life histories of mass shooters in the United States for a project funded by the National Institute of Justice, the research arm of the U.S. Department of Justice. We’ve built a database dating back to 1966 of every mass shooter who shot and killed four or more people in a public place, and every shooting incident at schools, workplaces, and places of worship since 1999. We’ve interviewed incarcerated perpetrators and their families, shooting survivors and first responders. We’ve read media and social media, manifestos, suicide notes, trial transcripts and medical records.

Our goal has been to find new, data-driven pathways for preventing such shootings. Although we haven’t found that mass shooters are all alike, our data do reveal four commonalities among the perpetrators of nearly all the mass shootings we studied.

First, the vast majority of mass shooters in our study experienced early childhood trauma and exposure to violence at a young age. The nature of their exposure included parental suicide, physical or sexual abuse, neglect, domestic violence, and/or severe bullying. The trauma was often a precursor to mental health concerns, including depression, anxiety, thought disorders or suicidality.

Second, practically every mass shooter we studied had reached an identifiable crisis point in the weeks or months leading up to the shooting. They often had become angry and despondent because of a specific grievance. For workplace shooters, a change in job status was frequently the trigger. For shooters in other contexts, relationship rejection or loss often played a role. Such crises were, in many cases, communicated to others through a marked change in behavior, an expression of suicidal thoughts or plans, or specific threats of violence.

Third, most of the shooters had studied the actions of other shooters and sought validation for their motives. People in crisis have always existed. But in the age of 24-hour rolling news and social media, there are scripts to follow that promise notoriety in death. Societal fear and fascination with mass shootings partly drives the motivation to commit them. Hence, as we have seen in the last week, mass shootings tend to come in clusters. They are socially contagious. Perpetrators study other perpetrators and model their acts after previous shootings. Many are radicalized online in their search for validation from others that their will to murder is justified.

Fourth, the shooters all had the means to carry out their plans. Once someone decides life is no longer worth living and that murdering others would be a proper revenge, only means and opportunity stand in the way of another mass shooting. Is an appropriate shooting site accessible? Can the would-be shooter obtain firearms? In 80% of school shootings, perpetrators got their weapons from family members, according to our data. Workplace shooters tended to use handguns they legally owned. Other public shooters were more likely to acquire them illegally.


So what do these commonalities tell us about how to prevent future shootings?

One step needs to be depriving potential shooters of the means to carry out their plans. Potential shooting sites can be made less accessible with visible security measures such as metal detectors and police officers. And weapons need to be better controlled, through age restrictions, permit-to-purchase licensing, universal background checks, safe storage campaigns and red-flag laws — measures that help control firearm access for vulnerable individuals or people in crisis.

Another step is to try to make it more difficult for potential perpetrators to find validation for their planned actions. Media campaigns like #nonotoriety are helping starve perpetrators of the oxygen of publicity, and technology companies are increasingly being held accountable for facilitating mass violence. But we all can slow the spread of mass shootings by changing how we consume, produce, and distribute violent content on media and social media. Don’t like or share violent content. Don’t read or share killers’ manifestos and other hate screeds posted on the internet. We also need to study our current approaches. For example, do lockdown and active shooter drills help children prepare for the worst or hand potential shooters the script for mass violence by normalizing or rehearsing it?

We also need to, as a society, be more proactive. Most mass public shooters are suicidal, and their crises are often well known to others before the shooting occurs. The vast majority of mass shooters leak their plans ahead of time. People who see or sense something is wrong, however, may not always say something to someone owing to the absence of clear reporting protocols or fear of overreaction and unduly labeling a person as a potential threat. Proactive violence prevention starts with schools, colleges, churches and employers initiating conversations about mental health and establishing systems for identifying individuals in crisis, reporting concerns and reaching out — not with punitive measures but with resources and long-term intervention. Everyone should be trained to recognize the signs of a crisis.

Proactivity needs to extend also to the traumas in early life that are common to so many mass shooters. Those early exposures to violence need addressing when they happen with ready access to social services and high-quality, affordable mental health treatment in the community. School counselors and social workers, employee wellness programs, projects that teach resilience and social emotional learning, and policies and practices that decrease the stigma around mental illness will not just help prevent mass shootings, but will also help promote the social and emotional success of all Americans.

I agree with much of it, but not all of it.

[Alex V]

This is timely:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-06/heres-what-criminology-professor-learned-studying-every-mass-shooting-1966

I agree with much of it, but not all of it.

Same as this LA Times Article:
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2019-08-04/el-paso-dayton-gilroy-mass-shooters-data?fbclid=IwAR2aNCmoaUi0XDAtbvE-HnrLWaoIzJGEhJKQBrxcfHcjT3QqBYTwcHr8heU

[Doc Safari]

Yes, the Zero Hedge article is actually based on the LA Times article. I try to avoid newspapers because a lot of them have paywalls and a gazillion pop-ups.

[Wildcat]

Anyone have a source? I'd suggest a vetted data/2A support section/FAQ could be helpful as finding accurate info getting more difficult due to active censorship.

You will have to find someone who is actively compiling the information as these events occur. There appear to be people engaged in revisionism to whitewash the on-line persona of these killers to disconnect them from the democrat party and other groups.
If you try to review the culprits background after some time has passed, the information presented is no longer true.
(Note that this different from google suppressing information that exists unaltered but they don't want you to find.)

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

This is timely:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-06/heres-what-criminology-professor-learned-studying-every-mass-shooting-1966





I agree with much of it, but not all of it.

That is a rational response to it, but the issue is that the left sees that as the ante to more restrictions. The "No" and "HELL NO" strategy has worked for gun rights, kind of. National level, yes; state level, not so much. The problem is that it is a very brittle defense. It works until it doesn't work, and then it breaks and you lose big. NY, NJ, CA. When you are facing those kinds of laws, you really might think UBCs and a FOID card aren't that bad.

Of course, the left will only do the gun stuff and then ask for more gun stuff. So what is the use in giving up if the Russians are just going to put you in a Gulag until you die?

On the ratio of mass shooters that are D or R? Who cares. No one cares about the stat. Just use examples of non WN. San Bernardino, Pulse, DFW, Congressional Shooter, and others.

If someone is going to work on a stat, work out how F'd you are if you are a young black male in a city with a DEm mayor versus a GOP mayor.

[jpmuscle]

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[Firefly]

Nah I’m keeping my guns one way or another.