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mack7.62
08-08-19, 12:06
Knife control, we need more knife control right now.

https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2019/08/08/four-dead-two-wounded-in-violent-california-stabbing-spree/

Wait, never mind perp is a member of a protected class.

"Authorities confirmed that all of the victims and the suspect were Hispanic."

Wonder if he was legal?

Arik
08-08-19, 13:22
Would this technically be the first knife wielding mass stabber in current history?

Doc Safari
08-08-19, 13:27
Where's David Hogg when you really need him?

sundance435
08-08-19, 13:30
Would this technically be the first knife wielding mass stabber in current history?

Yes, if by “current history”, you mean this week or month.

Arik
08-08-19, 13:33
Yes, if by “current history”, you mean this week or month.I don't remember any mass stabbings in the US in the last several decades

1168
08-08-19, 13:39
I’ve seen some pretty grisly $h!t done with knives while I’ve been on duty. Really bad, awful, terrible stuff.

jsbhike
08-08-19, 13:50
I don't remember any mass stabbings in the US in the last several decades

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mass_stabbings

Worldwide incidents. I tried picking the US ones out, but copying and pasting that many times was becoming a PITA.

It isn't unusual, just doesn't get the coverage. I honestly don't think that covers all that I have heard make a blip on the news either.

sundance435
08-08-19, 13:54
I don't remember any mass stabbings in the US in the last several decades

If you use the same, albeit ever-shifting definition as mass shootings (3 or 4 victims), it’s not uncommon. The difference is the press coverage.

They’re far more likely to get passed off as your “average” homicide or violent attack vs. mass shootings.

The only reason this made the Sun Times was because it happened on Navy Pier:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.suntimes.com/platform/amp/crime/2019/7/4/20682792/navy-pier-stabbing

Again in Chicago, 10 days later:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox32chicago.com/amp/news/crime/5-injured-4-seriously-in-uptown-stabbing

The only one I actually recall getting national attention for a day or so was the Portland train knifing, but that was because there was an anti-Muslim bent (from the attacker).

titsonritz
08-08-19, 15:24
If you use the same, albeit ever-shifting definition as mass shootings (3 or 4 victims), it’s not uncommon. The difference is the press coverage.


Yep here's one that was Trump's fault in my area.


Two people are dead and one was injured after a stabbing on a train in Portland, Ore., on Friday afternoon.

Police say the disturbance began when a man on a light-rail train "began yelling various remarks that would best be characterized as hate speech toward a variety of ethnicities and religions." Among the subjects of his diatribe were two young women who appeared to be Muslim; one was wearing a hijab.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/05/27/530351468/2-dead-1-injured-after-stabbing-in-portland-ore

sundance435
08-08-19, 19:07
I’ve seen some pretty grisly $h!t done with knives while I’ve been on duty. Really bad, awful, terrible stuff.

Rational or not, I was always more afraid of knives working in LE than guns, for exactly that reason and because of how quickly they can be deployed by your average POS, and how much more likely you were to encounter them. Pulling a gun off someone was always kind of a big deal, but knives were pretty routine.

Thankfully, most guys weren’t packing Fairbairn Sykes or K-Bars, other than the random Bowie knife you pull from between the seats. A Bowie isn’t what I was afraid of, though.

Also, among some communities, knife use is just a hair above slapping on the use of force scale.

jsbhike
08-08-19, 19:28
Rational or not, I was always more afraid of knives working in LE than guns, for exactly that reason and because of how quickly they can be deployed by your average POS, and how much more likely you were to encounter them. Pulling a gun off someone was always kind of a big deal, but knives were pretty routine.



Someone in a pistol class I was in years ago had picked up the theory from another instructor that in a non-adversarial situation most people get somewhat more excited/agitated from unsafe knife handling near them than unsafe firearm handling. The theory they had was because everyone has been cut, but (luckily) not many shot.