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I'm finishing up a HD build & just haven't figured out what trigger to put in it yet. Normally I've standardized on Triggertech or LaRue MBTs, but I've decided I'd like a nice single stage for this setup.
Since it has a quality barrel (16 inch Lothar Walther chrome lined, medium contour 1:8 twist) & I realize the odds of only using it at the range are orders of magnitude greater than ever actually needing it for SD, I'd like it to be a clean, crisp trigger I actually enjoy.
Right now I'm going back and forth between an Elftmann SE flat trigger or a Failzero flat trigger (Nickel Boron coated & rebranded Rise Armament), but I am open to other suggestions.
Parameters:
3-4lb break.
Strong reset.
If it's a cassette type drop in it must have some method of being secured in place. Set screws, rubber bumpers like POF triggers, springs like the Wilson Combat, whatever. The little bit of play in CMC units drives my OCD nuts.
No Hiperfire. Just don't care for them.
I realize Geissele is the gold standard. Love their charging handles. Don't care for their triggers (my wife loves them, though).
I'd just go with the new LaRue single stage but it's a bit heavier than I'm looking for.
Oh, and nothing adjustable. Adjustable to me means more parts that could conceivably malfunction.
No lectures about the propriety of a light single stage trigger for home defense. I know. Like I said, the odds of actually needing it for such are minuscule.
My LaRue MBT-1S is smooth. I had to put the heavier spring in mine in order to get some use out of it, just was too light with the spring it shipped with.
I have a bias towards the Geissele SD-C (love the flat bow trigger), but I've always wondered what a good single-action trigger would feel like. I'm accustomed to taking up the slack for an aimed shot with the Geisseles. Wonder if a SA would be too "quick" to trip, i.e. go off before you want it to.
I have a bias towards the Geissele SD-C (love the flat bow trigger), but I've always wondered what a good single-action trigger would feel like. I'm accustomed to taking up the slack for an aimed shot with the Geisseles. Wonder if a SA would be too "quick" to trip, i.e. go off before you want it to.
I fully recognize Geissele is a great trigger. Super nice staff too. Their HQ is about 25 minutes from my place of employment. The "carrot like" break of their triggers just don't do it for me. I like a crisp "icicle" break. That I can be so picky is one of the blessings of "coming of age" in the post ban world.
Straight Shooter
11-08-19, 19:14
Velocity 4lb drop in. Ive had it on my LMT carbine for years now...love the dang thing. Very well made, I checked the screws for the first time since installation a couple months ago..as tight as the day I installed it.
Also have a 3lb Velocity on a 20" precision rifle in process of being built...its very nice too.
I fully recognize Geissele is a great trigger. Super nice staff too. Their HQ is about 25 minutes from my place of employment. The "carrot like" break of their triggers just don't do it for me. I like a crisp "icicle" break. That I can be so picky is one of the blessings of "coming of age" in the post ban world.
Rob Leatham or Kyle Lamb I'm not, so you may be a much better shooter than I am (if you have a pulse you probably are!). I was just wondering that if you were trying to engage multiple targets and time was of the essence would a SA be the shiznit?
For something like a SA to work for me in a quick-shooting scenario it would have to be more carrot-like than an icicle, maybe somewhere in-between. YMMV.
I'd still like to try one though before I drop $$$ on one.
I’ve had a 3lb Timney SS skelotonized trigger in a 16” for years. It really shines when shooting unsupported. I Like it so much that Timney is the first brand I look into when upgrading the trigger in my bolt guns.
Trigger pad feels almost identical to the Larue MBT 2s.
titsonritz
11-08-19, 21:50
I realize Geissele is the gold standard. Love their charging handles. Don't care for their triggers (my wife loves them, though).
I fully recognize Geissele is a great trigger. Super nice staff too. Their HQ is about 25 minutes from my place of employment. The "carrot like" break of their triggers just don't do it for me. I like a crisp "icicle" break. .
Have you tried their SSP?
https://geissele.com/ssp-m4-curved-bow.html
RobertTheTexan
11-08-19, 23:52
LaRue makes an MBT-1S, and it’s a single stage trigger priced the same as the MBT-2S, $87 bucks. I have or two and it’s a solid single stage trigger.
Other HD level triggers I have used are Hyperfire’s. Gunner (4.5-5.0 LB) Everything else I’ve tried was just too light of a trigger. On the MBT, I have the SS straight bow and I really like it.
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RobertTheTexan
11-08-19, 23:57
Have you tried their SSP?
https://geissele.com/ssp-m4-curved-bow.html
A $240 trigger in an AR? I don’t care if it breaks like a chicken wing. The day I need a $240 trigger to get sub MOA groups (and I don’t) is the day I need to sell every single AR I own and go to shooting wrist rockets and ball bearings.
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titsonritz
11-09-19, 00:34
A $240 trigger in an AR? I don’t care if it breaks like a chicken wing. The day I need a $240 trigger to get sub MOA groups (and I don’t) is the day I need to sell every single AR I own and go to shooting wrist rockets and ball bearings.
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Personally, I've never paid full price for a G trigger, I wait for sales.
wrist rockets and ball bearings
Wrist rockets and M-80's at the lake...looked like little depth charges going off, or the Missouri bracketing some Japanese vessel. Ah, the joys of a misspent youth.
Wilson TTU. Robert wouldn't by it though.
BeachBummer
11-10-19, 17:19
I have 2 cmc's and an ssa-e. Both are great.
First, buy the cmc ( or 2) when they go on sale once a year for 119.00
Put a piece of self stick rubber pad under the cassette, push down on the install, insert the pins it comes with, problem solved.
I absolutely love them.
Velocity 4lb drop in. Ive had it on my LMT carbine for years now...love the dang thing. Very well made, I checked the screws for the first time since installation a couple months ago..as tight as the day I installed it.
Also have a 3lb Velocity on a 20" precision rifle in process of being built...its very nice too.
Decided the 4lb is the one I'll be going with. Specifically, this model https://velocitytriggers.com/product/steel-cased-ar-trigger/
I don't actually anticipate shooting a lot of steel case through it but if I can get a 4lb trigger that has a stronger hammer spring, I'm not going to avoid something that could help reliability.
Thanks for the input, all. Now just to see if I have the patience for a Black Friday deal or will I jump the gun & pull the trigger early...decisions...
another wilson ttu fan. have over a half dozen. unitized triggers are independent of pin spacing/alignment (in other words, not dependent on perfect milling/machining/drilling/coating of the lower or pins themselves).
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Wilson TTU. Robert wouldn't by it though.
I'm sure there are lots of things I haven't tried that make people look at me funny. I personally have no interest in having a fast or super expensive car. I understand the limitations and lack of performance I get from my interests, perhaps Robert understands his as well.
ChattanoogaPhil
11-16-19, 07:49
Wilson TTU. Price has come down a lot since I purchased mine.
Couldn't help myself. $128.95 shipped (in cart price) https://www.wcarmory.com/velocity-trigger-velo18-steel-cased-ammo-ar-15-4lb-curved.htm
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