View Full Version : Feral Hogs kill 59 year old woman in a homeowner's yard
Ready.Fire.Aim
11-25-19, 23:11
What a horrible way to die, hopefully she passed away quickly. This happened in a homeowner's yard. As the man advises, carry a gun.
Anahuac is about an hour east of Houston, near I-10.
ANAHUAC, Texas (KTRK) -- Authorities confirm an attack by wild hogs caused the death of a woman whose body was found in the front yard of an Anahuac home Sunday.
Chambers County Sheriff Brian Hawthorne said in a press conference Monday afternoon the Jefferson County medical examiner's office formally ruled the cause of death as "exsanguination due to feral hog assault."
"We had suspected that," said Hawthorne. "My detectives and the criminal investigation team felt like that's what it was, but it was not something that we could even come close to announcing until we had the cause of death from the medical examiner's office."
The Chambers County Sheriff's Office said the body was discovered in the 400 block of State Hwy 61.
The woman was identified as 59-year-old Christine Rollins of Liberty.
Authorities say Rollins was the caretaker of an elderly couple who lives in the home where her body was discovered.
When she didn't show up at the normal time, the 84-year-old homeowner went outside and found Rollins laying between her vehicle and the home's front door.
When deputies arrived, they found Rollins deceased with multiple injuries to her body.
Hawthorne called it one of the most horrific scenes he's ever seen. Neighbors told ABC13 they have complained recently about wild hogs in the area.
"As soon as I seen the news report on that, my heart goes out to the family. A loss like that, no one needs to have to go through," said "Cajun Bob" Thornberry, of Sweeny. He's been trapping and hunting wild hogs for 40 years and has used trees to make escapes from charging hogs.
"If you walk up on a bunch of these hogs, don't try to run because they can outrun you. Try to get close to a tree and if you can't get close to a tree, at least carry a gun with you," he advised. Like any wild animal, feral hogs attack when they feel threatened, Thornberry said.
Deadly hog attacks are extremely rare. A quick online search shows only 4 reported in United States history before Rollins.
The sheriff says hogs in that rural part of Chambers County are becoming a bigger problem, and there are signs hogs were on the property where Rollins died.
"We've got individuals that hunt hogs with dogs. They put Kevlar on these dogs for a purpose because those hogs are vicious. And when they feel threatened, they're coming after you," said neighbor David Bennett.
No one reported hearing the incident.
The 84-year-old homeowner and his 79-year-old wife have severe dementia and Alzheimer's disease. Both require around-the-clock care.
Rollins was one of their three caretakers and had worked for them for a year and a half.
According to family members, Rollins was a huge fan of the San Francisco 49ers and the Houston Rockets, and dedicated her life to helping people. They also described her as a hard worker.
She leaves behind one adult daughter and two adult grandchildren.
Rollins would have turned 60 years old on Christmas Day.
Pack a 9 for urban self defense.
In Hog country, maybe pack a 10mm or .357 mag with hardcast loads.
What a horrible way to die, hopefully she passed away quickly.
Just being real here, chances are she didn't. Unlike a big cat or some other *true* carnivore, pigs aren't going to have the predatory instinct to administer a "kill bite" to the skull or throat. They essentially are just going to start ripping into you and eating.
Grand58742
11-26-19, 06:46
Feral hogs are out of control in some parts of the nation. And animal rights groups get all kinds of up in arms when farmers and others shoot them without any remorse.
Just being real here, chances are she didn't. Unlike a big cat or some other *true* carnivore, pigs aren't going to have the predatory instinct to administer a "kill bite" to the skull or throat. They essentially are just going to start ripping into you and eating.
You're probably right. Death due to exsanguination (loss of blood) does not happen quickly and is likely excruciating considering the type of wounds inflicted to cause such loss of blood.
Outlander Systems
11-26-19, 08:07
Goddamn that’s freaking gnarly
What PETA gonna say to that?
Anahuac, Texas — Authorities say a pack of feral hogs attacked and killed a woman outside a Southeast Texas home where she worked as a caretaker. Christine Rollins cared for an elderly couple at their home in the small town of Anahuac.
Chambers County Sheriff Brian Hawthorne said Monday the 84-year-old woman she cared for was waiting for Rollins, who lived in Liberty, Texas, to arrive on Sunday. The woman went outside and found the 59-year-old Rollins in the front yard between her car and the front door.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/feral-hogs-christine-rollins-attack-kill-texas-woman-authorities-say/
I wouldn't want to be a Feral Hog in Anahuac. What a tragedy and I expect it will get worse before better, these pest multiply like rabbits.
PB
Catchdogs and .45-70...
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PETA would be OK with this, animals good people bad.
Catchdogs and mini gun
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Fixed it for ya :cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE_f4L0WGz4
Adrenaline_6
11-26-19, 14:25
Helicopter and full auto...
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Fixed it again.
https://youtu.be/EaEi6-Gxp1o
Doesn't that seem wildly irresponsible to anyone else? Using a M134 on hogs? That's a lot of bullets being sprayed all over...
WickedWillis
11-26-19, 15:03
Doesn't that seem wildly irresponsible to anyone else? Using a M134 on hogs? That's a lot of bullets being sprayed all over...
Yeah I've thought this as well. However, the hog hunting community is a very vocal about being able to use whatever means they see fit to dispose of these pests.
That's more than f'ed up. Hate to think what would have happened if there was a yard full of kids playing.
Yeah I've thought this as well. However, the hog hunting community is a very vocal about being able to use whatever means they see fit to dispose of these pests.
So just like every other hunter / shooter, so long as they are mindful of background / backstop everything is ok, but when they fail to observe basic gun safety then I don't care what they are shooting at. And anyone with a M134 should probably know these things.
That said, the guy raining from the helo was pretty awesome.
Adrenaline_6
11-26-19, 15:18
That's more than f'ed up. Hate to think what would have happened if there was a yard full of kids playing.
I'm pretty sure they are somewhere in BFE with the M134
I'm pretty sure they are somewhere in BFE with the M134
My comment was a response to feral hogs running around eating people, wasn't worried about neighborhood kids getting zipped by M134.
Seems sorta unlikely as well. Having a heavy high rate of fire gun in place and then just happen to have hogs run by it (note he was not in any hidden position or in a ground blind or camouflage) sorta suggests they let a bunch of trapped hogs out in front of him so he could hose them down.
Not my place to judge not being there, but it sorta looked in the vid like there was some sort of building in the background. I could be wrong.
My comment was a response to feral hogs running around eating people, wasn't worried about neighborhood kids getting zipped by M134.
What, you don't worry about Spooky laying down a ring of fire around subdivisions to keep hogs away and accidentally zipping the neighborhood little league team?
I'd say the helo is many many times more safe as the earth is the backstop. That dickhead with the minigun? Yikes. He didn't look like he was in good control of it.
I'd say the helo is many many times more safe as the earth is the backstop. That dickhead with the minigun? Yikes. He didn't look like he was in good control of it.
All depends what is on the other side of those trees. If it's just trees and they made sure prior to firing, then continue with the minigun carnage. But if there are houses, campsites or anything like that, someone failed rule number four.
Diamondback
11-27-19, 00:06
Things like this... well, if I ever end up moving into Boar Country an AR10 pistol is getting fast-tracked. Think .30-06 AP Ball M2 (Garand ammo) will do for turning Boss Hogg's brain into a scrambled egg?
Averageman
11-27-19, 01:10
I have shot one of these damned hogs from about two feet away with a 5.56, dust flew, the hog looked confused for a second and ran away.
They don't go down easy.
Diamondback
11-27-19, 01:22
I have shot one of these damned hogs from about two feet away with a 5.56, dust flew, the hog looked confused for a second and ran away.
They don't go down easy.
That's why I was thinking .30-06, M2 Ball is one of the few civilian legal armor-piercing rounds. How does hog skull compare to 3/8" AR500? (Not sarc, genuinely curious--I'm not a hunter, but I want to know what I might have to defend myself against if Operation Delocation ever proceeds.)
Averageman
11-27-19, 01:59
That's why I was thinking .30-06, M2 Ball is one of the few civilian legal armor-piercing rounds. How does hog skull compare to 3/8" AR500? (Not sarc, genuinely curious--I'm not a hunter, but I want to know what I might have to defend myself against if Operation Delocation ever proceeds.)
I believe the skull is 1/34 to 2" thick, so the thickness isn't a huge problem, however, the skull is slanted and the brain is about the size of a golf ball. That leaves you with a moderate issue of penetration, but the vital brain is tiny and unless you're a pig anatomy expert kind of questionable to hit.
I believe that bullet would be a good choice, but I don't know anything about its velocity in it's military standard.
Hog are anatomically strange, they can be bitten multiple times by a rattlesnake and in the end, the hog will just eat the snake.
My Uncle has a ranch in Western New Mexico and we would often butcher a couple of hundred sheep at a time. Everything that wasn't going to be a mutton sandwich, or sausage was dumped in 55 gallon drums. My cousin and I would take those drums in the back of a pick-up and feed them to the hogs. These were domestic Poland's not feral tough hogs and they could crush a sheep's skull in there jaw in the blink of an eye.
The back of that pick-up got slimy by the end of the day and having watched those hogs eat all those sheep, I was very concerned about falling out of the truck and in to that pen.
Diamondback
11-27-19, 02:08
I believe the skull is 1/34 to 2" thick, so the thickness isn't a huge problem, however, the skull is slanted and the brain is about the size of a golf ball. That leaves you with a moderate issue of penetration, but the vital brain is tiny and unless you're a pig anatomy expert kind of questionable to hit.
I believe that bullet would be a good choice, but I don't know anything about its velocity in it's military standard.
I'd imagine the reduction from a 20"+ Garand barrel to a 10-12" AR pistol (I'm thinking something like a "Big Brother Mk 18") would put a serious cramp on velocity and thus terminal-ballistics too. Not to mention having a .30-cal recoil to fight with from a small/light weapon against an aggressive, moving target... sounds like a "head on a swivel and at ANY sign of hogs keep that car closed and locked, Don't Get Out Of The Boat" situation.
Diamondback
11-27-19, 02:08
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Averageman
11-27-19, 03:04
I'd imagine the reduction from a 20"+ Garand barrel to a 10-12" AR pistol (I'm thinking something like a "Big Brother Mk 18") would put a serious cramp on velocity and thus terminal-ballistics too. Not to mention having a .30-cal recoil to fight with from a small/light weapon against an aggressive, moving target... sounds like a "head on a swivel and at ANY sign of hogs keep that car closed and locked, Don't Get Out Of The Boat" situation.
In the initial post where I shot the hog at bad breath range, I was calling coyotes with a handicapped Vet. I set him up, made sure he had good line of sight and was comfortable. I set up the electronics and jumped in the my hide, suddenly I find myself at bad breath distances from several hogs.
The Momma Hog was surprised and at her first grunt, I hit her broadside twice, dust flew, I screamed like a little B*tch and it got crazy.
Honestly two rounds of 5.56 had NO effect. I'm not sure if that Hog passed later, but I was really happy she decided not to fight.
Adrenaline_6
11-27-19, 08:29
My comment was a response to feral hogs running around eating people, wasn't worried about neighborhood kids getting zipped by M134.
Ahhh....my mistake.
Adrenaline_6
11-27-19, 08:30
I believe the skull is 1/34 to 2" thick, so the thickness isn't a huge problem, however, the skull is slanted and the brain is about the size of a golf ball. That leaves you with a moderate issue of penetration, but the vital brain is tiny and unless you're a pig anatomy expert kind of questionable to hit.
I believe that bullet would be a good choice, but I don't know anything about its velocity in it's military standard.
Hog are anatomically strange, they can be bitten multiple times by a rattlesnake and in the end, the hog will just eat the snake.
My Uncle has a ranch in Western New Mexico and we would often butcher a couple of hundred sheep at a time. Everything that wasn't going to be a mutton sandwich, or sausage was dumped in 55 gallon drums. My cousin and I would take those drums in the back of a pick-up and feed them to the hogs. These were domestic Poland's not feral tough hogs and they could crush a sheep's skull in there jaw in the blink of an eye.
The back of that pick-up got slimy by the end of the day and having watched those hogs eat all those sheep, I was very concerned about falling out of the truck and in to that pen.
These hogs are doing straight up cartwheels when hit.
https://youtu.be/89UliEiQQyU
Grand58742
11-27-19, 09:00
I have shot one of these damned hogs from about two feet away with a 5.56, dust flew, the hog looked confused for a second and ran away.
They don't go down easy.
I went down and helped one of my troop's dad clear out some hogs on his ranch and farm over a couple of weekends some time ago. I found the 5.56/.223 loads somewhat lacking unless you went heavy with rounds. It worked, but I just wasn't prepared to part with the limited supply of RA556B I had at the time.
I did find 6.8 works wonders on Hogs. The Fusion 115 grain does all the work with a boiler room hit.
The Hornady 168 grain AMAX also was a show stopper the one time I used it. DRT kind of hits.
Between the four of us, 19 less feral hogs bothering his ranch over two days of work.
Grand58742
11-27-19, 09:20
You can always tell when city dwellers have no clue what damage feral hogs will do to ranches and farms. Out here in OKC, one of the local station's meteorologists came under fire for taking out a hog during a hunting trip. It was never officially made public, but allegedly she was forced out over the "outcry" of animal rights groups.
https://www.thelostogle.com/2016/10/04/lacey-swope-injured-in-hog-hunting-accident/
https://www.ftvlive.com/sqsp-test/2016/10/5/okc-weather-anchor-proudly-kills-defenseless-animal
https://thechive.com/2017/02/01/lovable-meteorologist-causes-up-roar-in-ok-city-news-34-photos/
However, News 9 quietly brought her back after a two year hiatus when they found their new morning weather lady lacking.
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