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rero360
01-04-20, 20:50
I didn’t see a tread about the truck here.

I got talking about this with a buddy, seeing how people are supposing that this is a prototype for a Mars rover, could the Cyber Truck be EMP proof? Faraday cages are basically metal boxes, and the truck is basically the same thing, I would imagine the electronics of the vehicle are isolated from the body and the only question is the windows, but perhaps the material chosen for the windows and their design might lend to maintaining the integrity of a faraday cage with the body.

I know that Mars doesn’t offer the same protections that Earth does from radiation and all that from the Sun and other galactic sources, thus electronics there need to be hardened so they don’t get fried.

Just a thought from a BS session over beers, what do you all think?

t1tan
01-04-20, 22:52
I don’t know, but I want one.

Outlander Systems
01-05-20, 08:02
100% this.

https://i.ibb.co/zXdCJbf/525-A193-A-CE88-40-B3-A25-B-D001072-E64-A1.jpg


I don’t know, but I want one.

THCDDM4
01-05-20, 08:21
Tesla is a terrible company with terrible products. Anyone seriously considering them should do their due diligence and research before buying into them.

The Cyber Truck looks awful. It looks like a silly vehicle from a 1980 movie about the future.

Outlander Systems
01-05-20, 08:24
What sort of problems have you had with yours?


Tesla is a terrible company with terrible products. Anyone seriously considering them should do their due diligence and research before buying into them.

The Cyber Truck looks awful. It looks like a silly vehicle from a 1980 movie about the future.

hotrodder636
01-05-20, 08:54
Wrong quote

hotrodder636
01-05-20, 08:55
#truth


100% this.

https://i.ibb.co/zXdCJbf/525-A193-A-CE88-40-B3-A25-B-D001072-E64-A1.jpg

THCDDM4
01-05-20, 09:05
What sort of problems have you had with yours?

I don’t own one. Nor would I purchase one. I know some engineers and techs at Tesla, who have shared a bit of info, but most of it can be searched on the internet.

A summary:

-auto drive that doesn’t aknowledge parked/non moving vehicles
-highest fatality rate for any luxury’s manufacturer
-one of the highest crash rates
-a mix of medium and very poor components. Overall quality below industry standards
-rattling that will not go away
-high insurance premiums
-high maintenance costs
-slow turnaround at service centers
-catastrophic power steering failure
-Tesla batteries are poor quality, cold weather affects their efficacy
-Eli and Tesla lie about their high rate of accidents being of known causes without fixes in the pipeline
-bad customer service. Abysmal, really.

Tesla exists on subsidies and “cool factor”. They are not fiscally sound even in a booming economy.

Couple that with how they beta test everything on the people who buy their products first, the solar city debaucle, a poorly run company overall - and you’ve got some serious issues that get mostly ignored instead of dealt with.

I wouldn’t want to be holding the bag on owning any of their shit when they go out of business.

Outlander Systems
01-05-20, 09:15
We’ve had some Model X vehicles in our fleet since 2017, and have had zero issues.

YMMV.

THCDDM4
01-05-20, 09:23
We’ve had some Model X vehicles in our fleet since 2017, and have had zero issues.

YMMV.

Looking at the bigger picture over longer periods of time (small sample sizes aside), the company is poorly run and they have major issues with safety that they ignore and flat out lie about.

Quality issues and complaints are out there and known.

There is a reason they require a full inspection every 12,000 miles.

turnburglar
01-05-20, 12:07
seeing how people are supposing that this is a prototype for a Mars rover, could the Cyber Truck be EMP proof? Faraday cages are basically metal boxes, and the truck is basically the same thing, I would imagine the electronics of the vehicle are isolated from the body and the only question is the windows, but perhaps the material chosen for the windows and their design might lend to maintaining the integrity of a faraday cage with the body.

I know that Mars doesn’t offer the same protections that Earth does from radiation and all that from the Sun and other galactic sources, thus electronics there need to be hardened so they don’t get fried.



Dude... WTF??!! I came here to actually talk Tesla vs Rivian vs Ford/GM, and its about Mars and EMP's?

Ok; so if Mars has 1/3 Gravity of earth, it kinda throws off ALL the mechanical engineering. So that's a waste. Mars also has 1/100th the atmosphere, so are you suggesting the T truck has some kinda pressurization features? Oh yea and Mars is also colder than antarctica on a bad night.... You see 2 feet of insulation in the thing? Lastly space vehicles don't have a ton of insulation against Radiation, because that would add Mass. The enemy of space flight. For human missions its simply a function of duration. Limiting exposure especially during high periods by going under ground, or simply not being off earth.

Hate to be a heart breaker, but humans WILL not be visiting mars in ANY capacity in the next 100 years. The moon is the ONLY place we belong off earth, for the foreseeable 500 years.

jpmuscle
01-05-20, 12:30
Truck engine development should have stopped at the 12v Cummins.


I said it.


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rero360
01-05-20, 13:12
Dude... WTF??!! I came here to actually talk Tesla vs Rivian vs Ford/GM, and its about Mars and EMP's?

Ok; so if Mars has 1/3 Gravity of earth, it kinda throws off ALL the mechanical engineering. So that's a waste. Mars also has 1/100th the atmosphere, so are you suggesting the T truck has some kinda pressurization features? Oh yea and Mars is also colder than antarctica on a bad night.... You see 2 feet of insulation in the thing? Lastly space vehicles don't have a ton of insulation against Radiation, because that would add Mass. The enemy of space flight. For human missions its simply a function of duration. Limiting exposure especially during high periods by going under ground, or simply not being off earth.

Hate to be a heart breaker, but humans WILL not be visiting mars in ANY capacity in the next 100 years. The moon is the ONLY place we belong off earth, for the foreseeable 500 years.

Well, we can also talk about the shape of the vehicle and how I’ve seen the results of people’s computations on it’s aerodynamics. Or how if Tesla is able to mass produce the glass solid state batteries that John B Goodenough is working on, the truck would go from 500 mile range to 1400. Or how if they incorporate solar panels into the tanto cover

kerplode
01-05-20, 13:19
I have a few random thoughts, in no particular order:
- It’s an electric douche truck designed to allow rich whites to scream “Look at Meeee!!!” while towing a boat.
- No normal person who needs to do truck thing will buy one of these.
- “Pedo-Guy” Musk is insane.
- The work environment at Tesla is hostile. Dude I know worked there less than a week before he had enough and moved on.
- Nobody that buys Teslas cares if they’re reliable...If your taxpayer-subsidized electric douche car breaks, just drive the Mercedes or BMW or other Tesla to the dispensary instead.
- Tesla has the best charger network, so they seem to be the best choice for a real-world usable douche car
- I might buy a Model 3 as my next vehicle.

Leuthas
01-05-20, 13:25
I don’t own one. Nor would I purchase one. I know some engineers and techs at Tesla, who have shared a bit of info, but most of it can be searched on the internet.

A summary:

-auto drive that doesn’t aknowledge parked/non moving vehicles
-highest fatality rate for any luxury’s manufacturer
-one of the highest crash rates
-a mix of medium and very poor components. Overall quality below industry standards
-rattling that will not go away
-high insurance premiums
-high maintenance costs
-slow turnaround at service centers
-catastrophic power steering failure
-Tesla batteries are poor quality, cold weather affects their efficacy
-Eli and Tesla lie about their high rate of accidents being of known causes without fixes in the pipeline
-bad customer service. Abysmal, really.

Tesla exists on subsidies and “cool factor”. They are not fiscally sound even in a booming economy.

Couple that with how they beta test everything on the people who buy their products first, the solar city debaucle, a poorly run company overall - and you’ve got some serious issues that get mostly ignored instead of dealt with.

I wouldn’t want to be holding the bag on owning any of their shit when they go out of business.

Not to pin you down on the subject Sir but I am legitimately curious if you have links to something I might read regarding your points? I've been eyeing a Model S for some time and I'd like to find that kind of info. Most of what I find is unsourced (good or bad) or nonsense from news orgs (I wouldn't go to any news outlet for info on a gun manufacturer, either.)

rero360
01-05-20, 17:03
I’m actually starting to look for my next car as well. I currently drive an ‘09 Mitsubishi Galant and am getting around 23 mpg driving around LA with my current commute being about an hour each way to school or to drill. Once I graduate next spring and start working full time my commute could be 10 minutes or close to two hours depending on who I go to work for and where in the LA basin or up in the Palmdale/Lancaster area.

While I’ve always been a sedan type of guy, it does put a hamper in range trips in transporting long guns.

I figure I’ll pull the trigger on a new car once I graduate and have a full time job secured.