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aap3535
01-15-20, 15:52
This may be common knowledge, but an interesting article on how the design and assembly of the AR15 affects prosecutions, and how that affects future proposed laws.

ETA: https://apnews.com/396bbedbf4963a28bda99e7793ee6366

hotrodder636
01-15-20, 18:59
Read about this somewhere else. Not sure if I like where they are going....could it lead to making the upper the “firearm”?

bgreed
01-16-20, 06:42
Not only the AR15, but every modern rifle on the market.

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SDG8
01-16-20, 09:58
My wife and I read this and our first thoughts were this leading to making the upper and lower serialized.

jsbhike
01-16-20, 10:07
If I remember correctly, didn't FNC's serial numbers go the opposite way when the holder of the registered DIAS's put them on the market?

Stickman
01-16-20, 13:47
The Feds can make a simple restructure of the 86 ban by having another amnesty. If they give amnesty to illegal aliens, giving it to inanimate objects shouldn't be a stretch. After all, the owners go through a more stringent check.....

Bill2e
01-16-20, 19:02
Read about this somewhere else. Not sure if I like where they are going....could it lead to making the upper the “firearm”?

Agreed - this sounds like they are making a case to serialize all major parts.

This is what happens when people that don't understand rule on a topic...............

JediGuy
01-16-20, 19:38
They’re eventually going to require serial numbers and transfers on bolts and barrels. If you’re trying to control the commerce, you have to control those two things.

john armond
01-16-20, 19:59
Could this also affect pistol frames and slides? I know it’s a stretch, but what if you have beretta 92s with spare 96 slides\barrels or some thing similar.

jpmuscle
01-16-20, 20:29
Per usual they greatest threat to life and liberty inevitably ends up being ones own government.


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tomme boy
01-17-20, 00:07
Lots of countries the barrel is the firearm.

scottryan
01-21-20, 13:49
This is a shitty court case with a shitbag defendant.

This will not end well for us.

Warp
01-21-20, 14:03
Agreed - this sounds like they are making a case to serialize all major parts.

This is what happens when people that don't understand rule on a topic...............


Oh I think they understand just fine. More red tape, more hoops to jump through, more government intrusion, more restrictions, more tracking and registering...more ways to run afoul of the law doing nothing at all that's actually wrong. That's what they want.

Buncheong
01-21-20, 23:31
Eventually, possession of a recoil spring will be enough to send you to jail.

“Land of the Free,” they call it ...

Rascally
01-22-20, 14:47
Could this also affect pistol frames and slides? I know it’s a stretch, but what if you have beretta 92s with spare 96 slides\barrels or some thing similar.

My PPQ 9mm is already this way. Ser# is stamped on the barrel, the slide, and the frame. It was made in Germany, so maybe it's a German thing. My S&W 5906 is stamped only on the frame.

Warp
01-22-20, 15:28
My PPQ 9mm is already this way. Ser# is stamped on the barrel, the slide, and the frame. It was made in Germany, so maybe it's a German thing. My S&W 5906 is stamped only on the frame.

Glock has put the serial on the frame, slide, and barrel for awhile (possibly always, would have to check), made in Austria or United States

MegademiC
01-22-20, 19:46
Aks also have sn on multiple parts.

I always assumed it was continued from the days of hand-fit parts.

grinder01
01-22-20, 21:25
Come to Canada and see what our idiot in charge is doing to us.

jpmuscle
01-22-20, 22:25
Come to Canada and see what our idiot in charge is doing to us.

Have you tried violent armed revolution yet? I mean it’s an option.


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grinder01
01-22-20, 22:41
He does wear a bullet proof vest.

Rascally
01-23-20, 17:41
He does wear a bullet proof vest.

On his head..?

Alpha-17
01-23-20, 17:48
He does wear a bullet proof vest.

Use better bullets. Or, aim elsewhere.

grinder01
01-23-20, 18:23
You can say that, im probably being monitored

fingerguns
01-29-20, 15:55
This is a shitty court case with a shitbag defendant.

This will not end well for us.

It never ends well for the good guy.

sgtrock82
01-30-20, 19:07
My PPQ 9mm is already this way. Ser# is stamped on the barrel, the slide, and the frame. It was made in Germany, so maybe it's a German thing. My S&W 5906 is stamped only on the frame.Its at least a German thing and at least once was a wide spread practice in Europe and many other places. It may also be tied into German proofing laws, helping ensure that the parts of a pistol were proof tested together as a unit.

In the US its usually just a single serial number, with exceptions for some revolvers using more hand fit parts, either serializing these parts to match or using a seperate factory assembly number to keep parts together.

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