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rero360
01-19-20, 17:13
Does anyone have any experience with shelves that have hidden compartments to gold either a pistol or rifle? My wife wants me to put in a shelf near the door to the garage to hold our keys and other pocket stuff so it no longer collects on the dining room table. I’m currently storing one of my pistols in the pantry on one of those magnets above the door, she doesn’t like the setup And is open to the idea of a hidden shelf.

I’m looking for any good manufacturers to look into, a cursory search led me to covert cabinets but am open to other brands.

Diamondback
01-19-20, 17:29
The problem I'd see with her thinking is the "Out Of Sight, Out Of Mind" effect--will you remember the keys are in there when you get a panicked call from a buddy who needs help at an odd hour of the night? If it's just clutter cleanup, maybe a system of small stacking baskets on the table with each of you using one basket for your own "pocket stuff" might be more straightforward.

Not trying to diss your idea, just trying to point out a potential problem while looking at the underlying situation at the "Task and Purpose" level.

Good luck with your search!

rero360
01-19-20, 17:40
The problem I'd see with her thinking is the "Out Of Sight, Out Of Mind" effect--will you remember the keys are in there when you get a panicked call from a buddy who needs help at an odd hour of the night? If it's just clutter cleanup, maybe a system of small stacking baskets on the table with each of you using one basket for your own "pocket stuff" might be more straightforward.

Not trying to diss your idea, just trying to point out a potential problem while looking at the underlying situation at the "Task and Purpose" level.

Good luck with your search!

The keys and pocket stuff would go on top of the shelf so there’s no risk of not remembering where they are at o dark thirty

tgizzard
01-19-20, 18:27
https://tacticalwalls.com/shop/

I don't work for this company and have zero affiliation with them. But it's a company that specializes in what you're asking about, so here's a link.

utahjeepr
01-19-20, 20:31
I have a small shelf that holds two pistols. It is a very good match to the surrounding furniture so it does not seem even the least bit out of place or conspicuous. My wife ordered it from tactical traps, it was easy to install and works well for our purposes. I can't really compare as I have only used this one example and have not compared it to the competition. Like I said, the wife bought it. First I knew of it was when it showed up and got put on my to do list.

OH58D
01-19-20, 22:10
Some of these shelf safes use electronic locks with a battery. None of my large safes have electronic locks, nor would I want a shelf with an electronic lock. Maybe I am paranoid about EMP stuff, or I just don't want to lose access to my weapons because of a dead battery.

Other than that, they are actually pretty neat (with a manual lock).

Sam
01-20-20, 05:00
The Tactical Wall stuff use magnets, so no battery is needed.

HardToHandle
01-20-20, 08:59
Some of these shelf safes use electronic locks with a battery. None of my large safes have electronic locks, nor would I want a shelf with an electronic lock. Maybe I am paranoid about EMP stuff, or I just don't want to lose access to my weapons because of a dead battery.

Other than that, they are actually pretty neat (with a manual lock).

Generally EMP is most likely to affect grounded conductive materials that run on an east-west axis. If your gun lock fails due to an EMP strike, you have much more to worry about the immediate radiation and the fallout than the electromagnetic impacts.

Batteries are a legit concern. I use a box with a battery lock for my pistols as described in the initial post. The AA batteries ran out this weekend, so I had to use a key to unlock.

rero360
01-20-20, 12:08
Thank you gents for the info, looked into it and the quality ones are a bit out of our price range, just going to get a shelf from Home Depot I think and will have to think of a solution for the pistol. I personally think it’s fine, but she doesn’t like it in the event that our nephew or niece discovers it, although they are both intelligent enough to know not the touch it, the real risk is one of them, mainly my nephew, telling friends about it.

jsbhike
01-22-20, 10:33
The Tactical Wall stuff use magnets, so no battery is needed.

I was thinking the name sounds familiar from years back at gun shows. Moves the initial latch out of the way with a magnet, wall or furnishing. At that time they preferred/required new homes be complete before they did their install to minimize how many knew there was a false wall and claimed several break-ins had occurred without their safes ever being discovered.

jsbhike
01-22-20, 10:36
Some of these shelf safes use electronic locks with a battery. None of my large safes have electronic locks, nor would I want a shelf with an electronic lock. Maybe I am paranoid about EMP stuff, or I just don't want to lose access to my weapons because of a dead battery.

Other than that, they are actually pretty neat (with a manual lock).

Technology has advanced, but one of my buddies had an electronic pistol box(not cheap junk) app. 10-15 years ago that fried. The manufacturers only idea was to ship it to them (with loaded pistol inside) so he opted for the DIY cut off wheel option. So not a paranoid concern at all.