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So this popped up yesterday on Soldier Systems:
http://soldiersystems.net/2020/01/20/cloud-defensive-announces-rail-mounted-environmental-illuminator/
As someone who has been looking to move towards higher-output lights, this looks like it could be a really welcome competitor to current offerings on the market. I'm curious to see how this competes performance-wise with Modlite particularly.
FlyingHunter
01-22-20, 17:50
Thanks for sharing! I have one of their rails...good kit.
Been curious about their rails too! They look like great kit. Seems like this company has a lot of solid products.
FYI for anyone following this, The REIN and the micro versions are now for sale on the Cloud Defensive website.
LowSpeed_HighDrag
10-05-20, 16:20
If Cloud Defensive ever releases a product, and it doesn't become a huge fiasco, I'll be shocked. I was on the waitlist, but then Cloud screwed the waitlist, so I think I'll snag a Modlite now. The Rein has very impressive output, but boy is it huge.
Interested in hearing what happened, as I put an order in just fine when they announced it.
I own multiple Modlites, and they are really, really great lights that are well built and perform as advertised. The REIN is definitely huge, but the output and the spec sheet is extremely impressive. Hopefully it lives up to expectations.
If I don't end up liking it, I'm sure that it will end up on Equipment Exchange.
That does look rather interesting.
Five_Point_Five_Six
10-06-20, 12:07
If Cloud Defensive ever releases a product, and it doesn't become a huge fiasco, I'll be shocked. I was on the waitlist, but then Cloud screwed the waitlist, so I think I'll snag a Modlite now. The Rein has very impressive output, but boy is it huge.
Having gone through the OWL release debacle, I got on the REIN early access email list just to see if I'd actually get the email when it went live.
Nope lmao.
Having gone through the OWL release debacle, I got on the REIN early access email list just to see if I'd actually get the email when it went live.
Nope lmao.
They make good stuff but their IT is an absolute debacle. They were doing a blem sale a while back and their servers crashed. Their web company said they were being attacked by DDOS attack (seriously??). That along with the fact they routinely delete Instagram posts leads me to believe they are clowns.
Five_Point_Five_Six
10-06-20, 12:27
They make good stuff but their IT is an absolute debacle. They were doing a blem sale a while back and their servers crashed. Their web company said they were being attacked by DDOS attack (seriously??). That along with the fact they routinely delete Instagram posts leads me to believe they are clowns.
I put Cloud Defensive in the same category as SOLGW. Great products but terrible communication and constant blown deadlines. Best bet is to buy from one of their dealers and avoid the headache.
I didn’t realize this was a problem. I’ve bought 3 things from them with no issues. But I wasn’t an early adopter, either.
I'm waiting on my REIN Micro to compare to my Modlite PLH V2.
titsonritz
10-07-20, 11:22
I'm waiting on my REIN Micro to compare to my Modlite PLH V2.
I'd be real interested in hearing about that comparison.
I don't do early adoption, especially from small companies. I'm waiting for Surefire to come out with a light that uses a 21700 battery.... Should be good for 2000 to 3000 lumens.
Anyway, I'll let you guys be the lab rats for the new lights. I'll just hang back.
Mrgunsngear
10-18-20, 16:10
FWIW:
IMO both lights come out looking pretty good given the conditions they were put through...
https://youtu.be/GacpnlcijhY
First, I want to discuss a few things about these lights regarding their output/runtime profiles.
I took both lights and ran them for 5 minutes, rested them for 5, ran them for five, until they ceased to function (shut off completely). Both lights showed less and less output as the cycles went on, and physically began running noticeably "cooler" after about cycle #3, as well as dimmer. Both lights shut off at around 3 resting volts, so as to preserve battery integrity. Fully charged Keeppower 18350 unprotected batteries were used in both.
Both lights appear to use "direct drive" type setups, more or less, that is not fully dependent on thermal management, but rather, as the battery wears down, so does your output.
The modlite performed without indication of power reduction (minus visual signature) until shortly after the 5 minute cycle comprising it's 20-25 minute run-time segment began, whereupon it blinked a couple of times and then continued. It did this again on the 25-30 minute segment, whereupon it then did the same at around 27 minutes and dimmed to what would be, for this light, "moon mode". Still pretty potent by 2005 standards, though. At 30 minutes, it blinked and dimmed even further, and at this point began blinking every 15 seconds or so until the light completely shut off at around the 31 minute mark.
The REIN seemed (as best I can tell without an integrated sphere), to follow similar output reductions at similar times as the modlite. However, it did not have any "blink warnings" programmed into it. It simply shut itself off at 28 minutes, was promptly restarted and ran until 30 minutes when it was shut off, and then upon being restarted shut itself back off at around 31 minutes.
I took photos of the beams at about one minute runtime or so outside, centering them on my gazebo at approximately 75 yards. I then took photos of the beams after 31 minutes each on the same gazebo at the same distance. These photos were a product of rapidly photographing the beam as soon as I switched the lights on, as they only produced the level of light pictured VERY briefly (5 seconds at most), and then either shut off, or went into a mode suitable only for looking for snakes where you are about to step before then very quickly/soon after shutting off.
Following this, to test the hypothesis that these use a direct drive type input/output scheme of some sort, independent of the units heat, I let both lights cool to room temperature, and then tested them each with a battery having 3.6v resting, which is about 5% battery capacity, but which is well above the cutoff point for either light. The results of that is also pictured.
I also performed a "20 minute all-out" runtime test. The lights were switched on and a timer was set for 20 minutes. Again, fully charged Keeppower 18350 unprotected cells were used. The battery voltage was immediately measured upon completion of the test. The modlite went the full 20 minutes, gradually reducing output, and the battery measured 3.55v immediately after, under no load. The REIN Micro on both occasions I tested it (to verify first test's results) went about 18-19 minutes stepping down gradually, before going into a pretty notably low mode. The first time, the battery measured 3.15v, and the second, 3.12v. The one difference is that I used the Modlite tail cap for this vs the Surefire DS00. This is a potential variable for the modlite.
My theory is that the REIN has a heavier bezel/head. It weighs 3.0oz, while the modlite head weighs 2.2oz (This is the new "slim" profile). I believe that the REIN runs "harder" for longer because the thermal mass of the head is greater, allowing longer runtime before reducing output for thermal management. I cannot prove this as I do not have a light box or integrated sphere, but it is my presumption based on the lights performing so similarly when run for 5 minutes, and shut off for 5 minutes, but now showing some disparity. It is notable, however, that at 3.6v resting, a rechargeable battery has only an estimated 5% of its capacity remaining, so the difference is not as great as one might first appreciate between 3.15 and 3.55 volts on the resting battery.
Further, I have a video that I am uploading, the link to which is provided, but it is not live at this time, it should be later today, however.
REIN Micro with new battery:
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122460345_10100325745252301_8916262510508898408_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=uu_fPjHxGTIAX-_soP_&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=1c1fb91d201fffd051947da167de12bc&oe=5FB85BC5
PLHV2 18350 with a new battery:
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122450200_10100325745367071_4479566686445263838_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Veuo8_LG0A0AX9BQCjt&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=b0ea20ba03939a205b1f4c83bb54ef09&oe=5FB874D3
REIN micro after @31 minutes of runtime, instant-on:
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122466143_10100325745436931_8896688977116697057_o.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=WFdDJjqkzXsAX8xtQY5&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=b4ff8a3011866fdf76ad8f33ed22c399&oe=5FB7A3B2
PLHv2 18350 after @31 minutes of runtime, instant-on:
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122441175_10100325745481841_1791006668555462806_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=GL4odLJ6hKcAX9_juBs&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=26ab6e7ab667deac5dc38e28adb5299f&oe=5FB5C9CA
REIN Micro, 3.6v battery (5% capacity remaining):
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122466600_10100325745636531_351287592198455429_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=a_uz8g1SZ8kAX8rZmw2&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=6e92a96f3840d171d1dcc79f516c37ee&oe=5FB5DE08
PLHv2 18350 after 3.6v battery (5% capacity remaining):
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122489420_10100325745541721_1754471723095464757_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=CZ9M51zowM0AX_Jj_kv&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=932090aeed53c936747257ad8af56e38&oe=5FB6FCBB
Video comparison and more yammering and conjecture from yours truly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-lTxhcOSAo
Mrgunsngear
10-24-20, 10:04
First, I want to discuss a few things about these lights regarding their output/runtime profiles.
I took both lights and ran them for 5 minutes, rested them for 5, ran them for five, until they ceased to function (shut off completely). Both lights showed less and less output as the cycles went on, and physically began running noticeably "cooler" after about cycle #3, as well as dimmer. Both lights shut off at around 3 resting volts, so as to preserve battery integrity. Fully charged Keeppower 18350 unprotected batteries were used in both.
Both lights appear to use "direct drive" type setups, more or less, that is not fully dependent on thermal management, but rather, as the battery wears down, so does your output.
The modlite performed without indication of power reduction (minus visual signature) until shortly after the 5 minute cycle comprising it's 20-25 minute run-time segment began, whereupon it blinked a couple of times and then continued. It did this again on the 25-30 minute segment, whereupon it then did the same at around 27 minutes and dimmed to what would be, for this light, "moon mode". Still pretty potent by 2005 standards, though. At 30 minutes, it blinked and dimmed even further, and at this point began blinking every 15 seconds or so until the light completely shut off at around the 31 minute mark.
The REIN seemed (as best I can tell without an integrated sphere), to follow similar output reductions at similar times as the modlite. However, it did not have any "blink warnings" programmed into it. It simply shut itself off at 28 minutes, was promptly restarted and ran until 30 minutes when it was shut off, and then upon being restarted shut itself back off at around 31 minutes.
I took photos of the beams at about one minute runtime or so outside, centering them on my gazebo at approximately 75 yards. I then took photos of the beams after 31 minutes each on the same gazebo at the same distance. These photos were a product of rapidly photographing the beam as soon as I switched the lights on, as they only produced the level of light pictured VERY briefly (5 seconds at most), and then either shut off, or went into a mode suitable only for looking for snakes where you are about to step before then very quickly/soon after shutting off.
Following this, to test the hypothesis that these use a direct drive type input/output scheme of some sort, independent of the units heat, I let both lights cool to room temperature, and then tested them each with a battery having 3.6v resting, which is about 5% battery capacity, but which is well above the cutoff point for either light. The results of that is also pictured.
I also performed a "20 minute all-out" runtime test. The lights were switched on and a timer was set for 20 minutes. Again, fully charged Keeppower 18350 unprotected cells were used. The battery voltage was immediately measured upon completion of the test. The modlite went the full 20 minutes, gradually reducing output, and the battery measured 3.55v immediately after, under no load. The REIN Micro on both occasions I tested it (to verify first test's results) went about 18-19 minutes stepping down gradually, before going into a pretty notably low mode. The first time, the battery measured 3.15v, and the second, 3.12v. The one difference is that I used the Modlite tail cap for this vs the Surefire DS00. This is a potential variable for the modlite.
My theory is that the REIN has a heavier bezel/head. It weighs 3.0oz, while the modlite head weighs 2.2oz (This is the new "slim" profile). I believe that the REIN runs "harder" for longer because the thermal mass of the head is greater, allowing longer runtime before reducing output for thermal management. I cannot prove this as I do not have a light box or integrated sphere, but it is my presumption based on the lights performing so similarly when run for 5 minutes, and shut off for 5 minutes, but now showing some disparity. It is notable, however, that at 3.6v resting, a rechargeable battery has only an estimated 5% of its capacity remaining, so the difference is not as great as one might first appreciate between 3.15 and 3.55 volts on the resting battery.
Further, I have a video that I am uploading, the link to which is provided, but it is not live at this time, it should be later today, however.
REIN Micro with new battery:
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122460345_10100325745252301_8916262510508898408_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=uu_fPjHxGTIAX-_soP_&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=1c1fb91d201fffd051947da167de12bc&oe=5FB85BC5
PLHV2 18350 with a new battery:
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122450200_10100325745367071_4479566686445263838_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Veuo8_LG0A0AX9BQCjt&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=b0ea20ba03939a205b1f4c83bb54ef09&oe=5FB874D3
REIN micro after @31 minutes of runtime, instant-on:
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122466143_10100325745436931_8896688977116697057_o.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=WFdDJjqkzXsAX8xtQY5&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=b4ff8a3011866fdf76ad8f33ed22c399&oe=5FB7A3B2
PLHv2 18350 after @31 minutes of runtime, instant-on:
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122441175_10100325745481841_1791006668555462806_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=GL4odLJ6hKcAX9_juBs&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=26ab6e7ab667deac5dc38e28adb5299f&oe=5FB5C9CA
REIN Micro, 3.6v battery (5% capacity remaining):
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122466600_10100325745636531_351287592198455429_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=a_uz8g1SZ8kAX8rZmw2&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=6e92a96f3840d171d1dcc79f516c37ee&oe=5FB5DE08
PLHv2 18350 after 3.6v battery (5% capacity remaining):
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/122489420_10100325745541721_1754471723095464757_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=CZ9M51zowM0AX_Jj_kv&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=932090aeed53c936747257ad8af56e38&oe=5FB6FCBB
Video comparison and more yammering and conjecture from yours truly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-lTxhcOSAo
Great info; thanks
(awesome, detailed info)
Great post. Thanks.
titsonritz
10-24-20, 20:25
I'm waiting on my REIN Micro to compare to my Modlite PLH V2.
Nice comparison, thanks for taking the time.
So if you had to get rid of one which one would put on the EE?
Nice comparison, thanks for taking the time.
So if you had to get rid of one which one would put on the EE?
I'm actually going to do just that. First, I'm moving my fullsize modlite OKW. It's just not for me. Second, the plhv2 18350 modlite. I have pretty much all of the switchology options. I plan to keep the REIN micro and run it at 1030, clicky only, so if someone wanted the tapeswitch and had the clicky, I'd do a tail module insert swap, otherwise wait until cloud sells it independently.
I'm actually going to do just that. First, I'm moving my fullsize modlite OKW. It's just not for me. Second, the plhv2 18350 modlite. I have pretty much all of the switchology options. I plan to keep the REIN micro and run it at 1030, clicky only, so if someone wanted the tapeswitch and had the clicky, I'd do a tail module insert swap, otherwise wait until cloud sells it independently.
What didn't you like about the OKW- have you been able to compare it to the REIN in terms of the beam? It looks like the REIN has a bit more spill than the OKW, and a similar (perhaps even better) throw.
I'm waiting on a full-size REIN, and if I like it more than the Modlites that I have currently, I'll likely be putting the Modlites up on the EE.
I do think that the only drawback to the REIN on paper is that the tailcaps and switching are proprietary, at least for the moment.
What didn't you like about the OKW- have you been able to compare it to the REIN in terms of the beam? It looks like the REIN has a bit more spill than the OKW, and a similar (perhaps even better) throw.
I'm waiting on a full-size REIN, and if I like it more than the Modlites that I have currently, I'll likely be putting the Modlites up on the EE.
I do think that the only drawback to the REIN on paper is that the tailcaps and switching are proprietary, at least for the moment.
The REIN has an excellent switchology. No complaints there from me.
Yes, the OKW throws harder, but tunnels badly vs the plhv2 and especially REIN, due to lack of comparable spill.
The REIN has an excellent switchology. No complaints there from me.
Yes, the OKW throws harder, but tunnels badly vs the plhv2 and especially REIN, due to lack of comparable spill.
Interesting, that was my impression of the OKWvs PLHv2 as well when I compared them side to side, and the throw is even more apparent on the OKW, as well as the tunneling effect compared to the PLHv1.
From what you've posted, the REIN is very capable, and I look forward to seeing the differences firsthand.
Mrgunsngear
01-19-21, 18:15
Interesting, that was my impression of the OKWvs PLHv2 as well when I compared them side to side, and the throw is even more apparent on the OKW, as well as the tunneling effect compared to the PLHv1.
From what you've posted, the REIN is very capable, and I look forward to seeing the differences firsthand.
The beam patterns of all are compared at a few distances and should help some folks trying to decide:
https://youtu.be/655LksYpMUU
Cloud Defensive is also running a 17.76% off sale through the 26th of Jan.
Received my FDE REIN today (ordered 01 Oct 20) & battery's currently charging.
I'll do some comparisons tonight vs OWL & Modlite.
http://i.imgur.com/hnvE3PM.jpg (https://imgur.com/hnvE3PM)
http://i.imgur.com/lxosUHc.jpg (https://imgur.com/lxosUHc)
http://i.imgur.com/fG6iADg.jpg (https://imgur.com/fG6iADg)
& after waiting 5 freaking months, you'd think I would've at least gotten an extra battery?!
LOL, nope. Just a coupla stickers. Really, CD? Kinda shittay...
I am really surprised that it took 5 months, I ordered a black one in Nov and had it in early December, and multiple friends have gotten blems less than 2 weeks after ordering. I'm wondering if they had an issue with their anodizer.
I ordered one around the same time. I canceled a few weeks ago. I’m curious how they perform, but I’m pretty happy with my modlite that I bought while waiting.
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Mine just shipped today; ordered 1/22/21
I got the black version, but that clear anodized looks badass
Eurodriver
03-06-21, 08:36
What can is on that Glock in the last pic?
Received my FDE REIN today (ordered 01 Oct 20) & battery's currently charging.
I'll do some comparisons tonight vs OWL & Modlite.
http://i.imgur.com/hnvE3PM.jpg (https://imgur.com/hnvE3PM)
http://i.imgur.com/lxosUHc.jpg (https://imgur.com/lxosUHc)
http://i.imgur.com/fG6iADg.jpg (https://imgur.com/fG6iADg)
& after waiting 5 freaking months, you'd think I would've at least gotten an extra battery?!
LOL, nope. Just a coupla stickers. Really, CD? Kinda shittay...
Gemtech Aurora II on a G42 - I'd just swapped out the old TLR6 for the newer Nightstick.
Needs a holster, but looks as if I'll be making one myself...
Mine just shipped today; ordered 1/22/21
I got the black version, but that clear anodized looks badass
Received 3/5
Mounted it up to my rifle. Getting the tape switch & thicc wire to play nicely with a slim rail and tight mount was a challenge, but I'm happy with how it turned out. It's nice and snug to the rail with no exposed wires. I'm glad I went with the full size light on a 15" rail too.
https://imgur.com/gallery/5FbRT7p
That sucker is stupid bright. I couldn't resist shining it at myself (before I mounted it). I had no central vision for 5 mins afterwards :laugh:
LowSpeed_HighDrag
03-19-21, 09:27
Received 3/5
Shipped 1/22, received 3/5?!?!?
The REIN seems like a good light and all, but I bought a Modlite on 3/14 and received it on 3/17.....
Shipped 1/22, received 3/5?!?!?
The REIN seems like a good light and all, but I bought a Modlite on 3/14 and received it on 3/17.....
I bought it 1/22 as a backorder. They were having a 17.76% sale. The actual shipping was quick and only took a couple days
Is anyone tried the CD Torrent m-lok mounts? I am interested in this but I cannot seem to find any good information about the details. I thought I heard it has some flexibility built-in to adjust parallel to the barrel so you can tune how close to the muzzle devise but I like to ride high and tight, not sure how much flexibility their really is.
dontshakepandas
06-10-21, 17:51
Is anyone tried the CD Torrent m-lok mounts? I am interested in this but I cannot seem to find any good information about the details. I thought I heard it has some flexibility built-in to adjust parallel to the barrel so you can tune how close to the muzzle devise but I like to ride high and tight, not sure how much flexibility their really is.
They are rebranded IWC/Haley Strategic mounts so you may find more info if you search for those.
They are good mounts and do offer flexibility with spacing since they offer multiple mount positions.
Thanks for that information. I was able to find some details on the Scorpion mounts which seem to be the same as the Thorntails.
Defaultmp3
07-20-21, 18:59
Might be of interest to those who want to try out the REIN (or OWL): https://www.clouddefensive.com/trade-in/
titsonritz
07-20-21, 21:55
Might be of interest to those who want to try out the REIN (or OWL): https://www.clouddefensive.com/trade-in/
Thanks for posting that.
Thanks for sharing. I did not have anything to trade at the time but I was able to get a REIN Micro on sale. I already have the light mounted and just need to mount the switches to the top of the rail.
Redsoxnation
11-16-21, 01:49
Thanks for sharing. I did not have anything to trade at the time but I was able to get a REIN Micro on sale. I already have the light mounted and just need to mount the switches to the top of the rail.
I have owned Surefire, Modlites and Cloud Defense Owl and Reins.
I have to say the Cloud Defense is superior for me over those two other brands after thousands of rounds down range. Plus fitment wise the Surefire work great with MAWLs and the CD works great with the NGAL Peq-15 and MAWLs. Modlites work well but they weren’t for me.
I'm pretty disappointed in my new Rein.
It seemed like an awesome weapon light until I actually went shooting today.
After my range session, I was cleaning stuff, and noticed my Rein no longer works, at all. I tried different batteries, its just dead.
It's about like the rest of my luck...everyone says how great the Rein is...mine couldn't even handle 30rds of 5.56mm.
I'm pretty disappointed in my new Rein.
It seemed like an awesome weapon light until I actually went shooting today.
After my range session, I was cleaning stuff, and noticed my Rein no longer works, at all. I tried different batteries, its just dead.
It's about like the rest of my luck...everyone says how great the Rein is...mine couldn't even handle 30rds of 5.56mm.
They have a fantastic support system for their products. Speak with them, see what they say, and let us know the updates.
They have a fantastic support system for their products. Speak with them, see what they say, and let us know the updates.
I took care of it. Yes they are excellent. They emailed me a rma label within an hour of sending them an email, on a Sunday, I might add.
I removed my Rein, and found what caused the problem.
It seems, I pinched the cable, between a sharp edge of the rail, and the tape switch body. It was smashed, with a little exposed wire. My theory is recoil caused the rail to cut through the insulation on the cable, resulting in a short.
Off the weapon, the light works 100%.
So, I emailed Cloud, and told them its fixed.
And hit the bare wire with liquid tape.
Now, I need to do a better job routing the cable.
I took care of it. Yes they are excellent. They emailed me a rma label within an hour of sending them an email, on a Sunday, I might add.
I removed my Rein, and found what caused the problem.
It seems, I pinched the cable, between a sharp edge of the rail, and the tape switch body. It was smashed, with a little exposed wire. My theory is recoil caused the rail to cut through the insulation on the cable, resulting in a short.
Off the weapon, the light works 100%.
So, I emailed Cloud, and told them its fixed.
And hit the bare wire with liquid tape.
Now, I need to do a better job routing the cable.
Glad to hear you got it figured out. CD has some great customer service. They've been extremely responsive and helpful to any inquiries I've had. I'm excited to check out the new version of the Rein, the handheld, and the pistol light.
Glad to hear you got it figured out. CD has some great customer service. They've been extremely responsive and helpful to any inquiries I've had. I'm excited to check out the new version of the Rein, the handheld, and the pistol light.
You aren't kidding about the CS! Cloud is awesome!
I emailed Lee back yesterday, and told him I found, and fixed the issue...the light works, and I'm happy with it...sorry for wasting your time.
He emailed me back this morning, and told me no worries....there is a brand new switch assembly heading your way.
If that don't say it all...nothing does!
I doubt you'll find too many other weapon light companies, who are willing to go the extra mile, like Cloud does.
I think they just sold a gen 2 Rein, when it drops.
I am a little surprised the cable was damaged... It's a thick one and kind of a pain to get situated right because of the size.
Glad to hear it was figured out.
To add to Cloud Defensive CS.
I was changing the mount on a couple of my REIN the other day and while messing the the guns I knocked both lights off the workbench. Neither had the tail switch in. Because of this, when they landed the tabs got bent and broken.
I emailed them late Monday night asking to buy replacements. They replied Tuesday asking for my address, and I had both replacements by Wednesday night. I was happy to pay to fix my own stupidity. But they wouldn’t let me.
To add to Cloud Defensive CS.
I was changing the mount on a couple of my REIN the other day and while messing the the guns I knocked both lights off the workbench. Neither had the tail switch in. Because of this, when they landed the tabs got bent and broken.
I emailed them late Monday night asking to buy replacements. They replied Tuesday asking for my address, and I had both replacements by Wednesday night. I was happy to pay to fix my own stupidity. But they wouldn’t let me.
I'm seriously thinking of doing a little project.
I love the tape switch on the Rein! So much, that I'm contemplating retrofitting the extra Rein tape, I now have, to the sf plug on one of my hot buttons. I really prefer the CD switch...it is amazing! And, I'm pretty good with solder, and general fabrication.
When I'm successful, I may order two more to replace two more hot buttons.
thegreyman
02-17-22, 18:40
I'm pretty disappointed in my new Rein.
It seemed like an awesome weapon light until I actually went shooting today.
After my range session, I was cleaning stuff, and noticed my Rein no longer works, at all. I tried different batteries, its just dead.
It's about like the rest of my luck...everyone says how great the Rein is...mine couldn't even handle 30rds of 5.56mm.
I believe the Cloud REIN Lights are OUTSTANDING. I have two of the Cloud REIN lights, and they are better designed, stronger, and provide light that is superior to the Surefire weaponlights.
I had a problem with switch wiring. They immediately sent new switches to me. Their products and Customer Service are excellent! Contact them; I believe they will respond to you in a professional manner.
them, and several Surefires
titsonritz
05-05-22, 18:17
Does anyone actually have a REIN 2.0 or are they unobtanium vaporware? I need another weapons light and would like to try one but if they aren't for sale yet I'll have to go a different direction.
Inkslinger
05-05-22, 18:46
Does anyone actually have a REIN 2.0 or are they unobtanium vaporware? I need another weapons light and would like to try one but if they aren't for sale yet I'll have to go a different direction.
I would hold out. I’ve been so pleased with my OWL, that I want to put the Rein 2.0 on another rifle of mine. I know it doesn’t come close, but if you need a light asap, put on a Streamlight protac hlx. Then when the 2.0 comes in stock, use their trade in program and get $100 for the Streamlight. You’ll only be out $5!
titsonritz
05-05-22, 23:20
I would hold out. I’ve been so pleased with my OWL, that I want to put the Rein 2.0 on another rifle of mine. I know it doesn’t come close, but if you need a light asap, put on a Streamlight protac hlx. Then when the 2.0 comes in stock, use their trade in program and get $100 for the Streamlight. You’ll only be out $5!
I have been holding out but I'm going to need another light here pretty damn soon. I have an OWL, it is a good light but a bit heavy. I also have a Modlite OKW and am thinking of pick up PLHv2. I'll probably end up with both.
PLHv2 - 1350 lumens and 54,000 candela
REIN 2.0 - 1100 lumens and 71,000 candela
I had planned to use their trade in program and have a couple old lights I'll use.
I have been holding out but I'm going to need another light here pretty damn soon. I have an OWL, it is a good light but a bit heavy. I also have a Modlite OKW and am thinking of pick up PLHv2. I'll probably end up with both.
PLHv2 - 1350 lumens and 54,000 candela
REIN 2.0 - 1100 lumens and 71,000 candela
I had planned to use their trade in program and have a couple old lights I'll use.
I'm a fan of the Modlites that I own and use - the PLHv2 is a great general purpose head, but I slightly prefer the OKW because of the extra candela... even if it is lower lumen.
One interesting thing that I have noticed between the REIN/OWL and the Modlite PLHv2 and OKW heads is the color of the light as perceived by both the user and the individual caught in the beam: the Modlite heads are much "cooler" in tint, which is more unpleasant than the REIN/OWL when being inside the beam, but I prefer the "warmer" tint of the REIN/OWL when employing the light, as it seems to illuminate whatever is inside the beam in a manner that picks up subtle features better than the cooler Modlites.
More investigation around this phenomenon is needed and it might be partially due to personal preference, but it is soemthing to consider as well...
Five_Point_Five_Six
05-06-22, 14:11
I'm a fan of the Modlites that I own and use - the PLHv2 is a great general purpose head, but I slightly prefer the OKW because of the extra candela... even if it is lower lumen.
One interesting thing that I have noticed between the REIN/OWL and the Modlite PLHv2 and OKW heads is the color of the light as perceived by both the user and the individual caught in the beam: the Modlite heads are much "cooler" in tint, which is more unpleasant than the REIN/OWL when being inside the beam, but I prefer the "warmer" tint of the REIN/OWL when employing the light, as it seems to illuminate whatever is inside the beam in a manner that picks up subtle features better than the cooler Modlites.
More investigation around this phenomenon is needed and it might be partially due to personal preference, but it is soemthing to consider as well...
The warmer tints also seem to punch through fog and smoke better than the cooler ones.
dannynoonan
05-08-22, 20:14
Does anyone actually have a REIN 2.0 or are they unobtanium vaporware? I need another weapons light and would like to try one but if they aren't for sale yet I'll have to go a different direction.
I ordered one the day they were released. Received it a week later. Have had it on my rifle for a while now. Love it. Ordered a micro to replace the smaller surefire. Huge improvement in switching and output.
titsonritz
05-10-22, 05:58
I ordered one the day they were released. Received it a week later. Have had it on my rifle for a while now. Love it. Ordered a micro to replace the smaller surefire. Huge improvement in switching and output.
Seems like that was the last run they did, been on "backorder" forever.
I'm a fan of the Modlites that I own and use - the PLHv2 is a great general purpose head, but I slightly prefer the OKW because of the extra candela... even if it is lower lumen.
One interesting thing that I have noticed between the REIN/OWL and the Modlite PLHv2 and OKW heads is the color of the light as perceived by both the user and the individual caught in the beam: the Modlite heads are much "cooler" in tint, which is more unpleasant than the REIN/OWL when being inside the beam, but I prefer the "warmer" tint of the REIN/OWL when employing the light, as it seems to illuminate whatever is inside the beam in a manner that picks up subtle features better than the cooler Modlites.
More investigation around this phenomenon is needed and it might be partially due to personal preference, but it is soemthing to consider as well...
I have an okw, I’ve been able to identify targets out to about 250yds with it. I like it for where I’m at, not urban, but want the plhv2 as well or a rein
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I have been holding out but I'm going to need another light here pretty damn soon. I have an OWL, it is a good light but a bit heavy. I also have a Modlite OKW and am thinking of pick up PLHv2. I'll probably end up with both.
PLHv2 - 1350 lumens and 54,000 candela
REIN 2.0 - 1100 lumens and 71,000 candela
I had planned to use their trade in program and have a couple old lights I'll use.
Mod lite has a trade in program?
If so, I looked on their sight but can’t find anything to that extent, can you post the link?
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Five_Point_Five_Six
05-16-22, 16:58
Mod lite has a trade in program?
If so, I looked on their sight but can’t find anything to that extent, can you post the link?
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No that's Cloud Defensive. I don't think the trade in program runs all the time though.
titsonritz
05-16-22, 18:48
Mod lite has a trade in program?
If so, I looked on their sight but can’t find anything to that extent, can you post the link?
As mentioned by @5.56 I was talking about Cloud Defensive.
No that's Cloud Defensive. I don't think the trade in program runs all the time though.
Could be wrong but I think it is a regular full time deal.
https://www.clouddefensive.com/trade-in/
I have a tlr1 I’d be interested in trading in on a rein.
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I have a tlr1 I’d be interested in trading in on a rein.
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Why? Does it not work? Get a cheap $5 light, and send it in.
Any flashlight that can be mounted....."any flashlight" is the key word....
Don't send them a working tlr1!
Send me your TLR1....I have a working CD code I never used.... I would be willing to send you the code, when you use it, send me the tlr1
Why? Does it not work? Get a cheap $5 light, and send it in.
Any flashlight that can be mounted....."any flashlight" is the key word....
Don't send them a working tlr1!
Send me your TLR1....I have a working CD code I never used.... I would be willing to send you the code, when you use it, send me the tlr1
Any flashlight? Such as a $10 normal flashlight from the gas station?
I was drinking, that’s why I thought it was a good idea. lol. I do have the tlr1 on a carbine, and it’s dumb there. I know it belongs on a pistol, but wanted a light on that carbine.
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titsonritz
05-18-22, 00:16
Note they ask for the make and model of the trade-in light, infer what you will from that.
Any flashlight? Such as a $10 normal flashlight from the gas station?
I was drinking, that’s why I thought it was a good idea. lol. I do have the tlr1 on a carbine, and it’s dumb there. I know it belongs on a pistol, but wanted a light on that carbine.
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Dude, trust me. Any light that can be mounted.
They could care less how it's mountable.
Any light can be mounted.
Which means...any light.
You could send them a cheap $1 flashlight....CD doesn't give a rats ass.
I sent them a burnt out fenix tk11....which is an edc.
Trust me, CD just wants to get you in a Rein, or an OWL.
I was gonna send them a weapon mounted L2p, but was told directly on the CD FB page...my L2P was too nice to send in...send in a cheap walmart junk light instead. This was confirmed by a CD employee on the same post. And I'm glad I didn't send them the L2p!
Soon after, I bought a 1300lm 72kcd Sky lumens module, which brought my L2p up into OKW territory.
Just note, the coupon code does not work with any existing sales. That is why I still have my code.
As soon as I received the code, the Rein I wanted went on sale.
You have to order the full package of rein though, correct? You have to order mount and all, can you only order rein 1, or can you get the 2? This is a hugely generous offer from them!
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You have to order the full package of rein though, correct? You have to order mount and all, can you only order rein 1, or can you get the 2? This is a hugely generous offer from them!
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I am not sure if this is a one time deal or not.
Yes, you have to buy the full kit with torrent mount, charger, and CD 18650/18350 battery.
This is an awesome deal if you consider how much it is to put together a whole SF, or Modlite wml, with DS, and mod button or hot button.
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