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prepare
01-29-20, 14:53
The anti gun bills are ramping up New Mexico as well as several other states.
At least the Sheriff’s are on the right side.

https://youtu.be/aBY_6u3jN3c

Mozart
01-29-20, 15:00
They obviously changed up their strat. 50 regional victories = 1 big national victory. (Not that they won’t seize the opportunity for a national gun ban if they gain total power in DC, they will)

Honestly it’s looking like the only way to stop much of this is for SCOTUS to expound upon the “firearms in common use are protected” part of the Heller decision and outright prohibit localities from banning any semi-auto firearm and the common OEM magazines that go with them.

Alex V
01-29-20, 15:11
Honestly it’s looking like the only way to stop much of this is for SCOTUS to expound upon the “firearms in common use are protected” part of the Heller decision and outright prohibit localities from banning any semi-auto firearm and the common OEM magazines that go with them.

They don't care about Heller, and SCOTUS doesn't care to take up many 2A cases.

Vic79
01-29-20, 15:14
Can someone cliff notes the 30 minute video?

Pappabear
01-29-20, 15:38
They don't care about Heller, and SCOTUS doesn't care to take up many 2A cases.
I agree 100%. He feels like I got the gun community and don’t want to irritate the moderate dems on guns.

PB

OH58D
01-29-20, 15:55
New Mexico's legislators are part-timers. Right now we are in a 30 day Legislative session. The democrat majority is trying to pass a red flag law, but 30 of 33 Counties will not participate because of their 2nd Amendment Sanctuary status, and 30 of 33 County Sheriff's won't even participate in red flag enforcement. Add to that the myriad of Native American Reservations who won't even cooperate with State or County Law Enforcement and it's a giant nothing.

I've met Sheriff Tony Mace of Cibola County and he has a large Native American population from the Zuni Pueblo, and Indians out here abide by few laws anyway. The law enforcement infrastructure out here is so limited away from the cities that whatever gets passed means nothing. Last July they passed a mandatory background check for person to person sales of guns, but that is mostly ignored. All feel-good legislation.

Just for reference, New Mexico is three times the land area of the Commonwealth of Virginia and less than 25% of the population. You have on average less than 1 person per square mile here. Just before you enter my ranch, the population of the County you pass thru has a total population of 692 people, with 2,126 square miles in land area.

Pappabear
01-29-20, 16:00
What has to happen to become a 2A sanctuary city? What are the hurdles ?

PB

Grand58742
01-29-20, 16:08
FYI this site has maps of a lot of States that are passing the Sanctuary status.

For example, New Mexico:

https://gunrightswatch.com/clientuploads/_photos/_7/_53.gif

https://gunrightswatch.com/index.php?src=photo&srctype=lister&ref=Large%202A%20Sanctuary%20Maps&category=Main

I was surprised by Oregon and Washington.

OH58D
01-29-20, 16:15
What has to happen to become a 2A sanctuary city? What are the hurdles ?

PB
Just like the County Commission votes, so does a City Council. The closest little settlement close to me has a population of 150 +/-. They are a 2nd Amendment Sanctuary community within the County.

BoringGuy45
01-29-20, 16:32
While sheriffs have their own set of issues being politicians themselves, and there are some anti-gun ones, as a whole, they have been the most reliably law enforcement officers AND politicians on the matter of gun rights as of late. I wish my state had sheriffs. Unfortunately, we only have state police and local police, neither of which can be fully trusted, at least at the command level, to defend gun rights. Plus, if a police chief or state police colonel were to tell the politicians to go f**k themselves, they get removed and replaced by the city or state. Sheriffs, on the other hand, answer directly to the people.

prepare
01-29-20, 17:47
Sheriff Mace said flat out that the legislation and the red flag laws were not about safety. He didn’t expand on that and Cam didn’t ask him too. I wish more people who are viewed as normal, sensible, credible people would speak up and speak out about what it’s really about. Gun control is about control. Unfortunately most people that say that are marginalized and discounted as tin foil, conspiracy, wacko, nut jobs.

OH58D
01-29-20, 19:59
Keep in mind Tony Mace is only one Sheriff here of the same mindset...there are 29 others. Santa Fe can pass all the gun laws they want, but without compliance and enforcement, you have nothing but worthless paper. Kind of like anti-sodomy laws that are still on the books in some southern States. People just ignore them, probably as much or more as they do speed limits on the highways in the great wide open of rural New Mexico.

prepare
02-02-20, 05:23
Keep in mind Tony Mace is only one Sheriff here of the same mindset...there are 29 others. Santa Fe can pass all the gun laws they want, but without compliance and enforcement, you have nothing but worthless paper. Kind of like anti-sodomy laws that are still on the books in some southern States. People just ignore them, probably as much or more as they do speed limits on the highways in the great wide open of rural New Mexico.

Off topic, but how are heath care options in your local as far a quality doctors including specialists? Are they close by or would you have to travel a good ways?

jsbhike
02-02-20, 06:55
They obviously changed up their strat. 50 regional victories = 1 big national victory. (Not that they won’t seize the opportunity for a national gun ban if they gain total power in DC, they will)

Honestly it’s looking like the only way to stop much of this is for SCOTUS to expound upon the “firearms in common use are protected” part of the Heller decision and outright prohibit localities from banning any semi-auto firearm and the common OEM magazines that go with them.

They have still done well at the federal level considering

"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

is ignored.