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jsbhike
03-18-20, 18:58
Spoiler, none of them can, but 1 is a walking, talking example of 1 of it's negatives.


https://youtu.be/DQ5QWclTfac

SteyrAUG
03-18-20, 20:28
I am no longer surprised by how willfully ignorant college populations are.

If you asked them what Japan did during WWII I bet most couldn't tell you. If you can find anyone who actually knows Japan fought on the allied side during WWI I'd be amazed.

Buckaroo
03-18-20, 21:27
Thanks for posting this. I have 2 daughters still at home and I'm constantly working to inoculate them from leftism. This was a really good illustration of the ridiculousness on college campuses.

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jsbhike
03-18-20, 21:36
The bigger problem is he could go pose the same question to any other group and would end up with the same responses. In fact, go hit up a group of 50+ year olds that give the same answer and the odds are no amount of facts/evidence will change their lifelong misinformed position.

SteyrAUG
03-18-20, 23:21
The bigger problem is he could go pose the same question to any other group and would end up with the same responses. In fact, go hit up a group of 50+ year olds that give the same answer and the odds are no amount of facts/evidence will change their lifelong misinformed position.

Sadly, I think you are right.

Buckaroo
03-18-20, 23:25
Y'all are depressing

Not that you're wrong...

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titsonritz
03-18-20, 23:27
It's F'ing pathetic, come on people, clue in just a little tiny bit.

SteyrAUG
03-19-20, 01:12
Thank god the cops at least knew what is what.

"OMG...they are terrorizing students with their ideas!%^!!"

prepare
03-19-20, 05:47
College campus's are full of complete idiots.

Alpha-17
03-19-20, 08:04
I am no longer surprised by how willfully ignorant college populations are.

If you asked them what Japan did during WWII I bet most couldn't tell you. If you can find anyone who actually knows Japan fought on the allied side during WWI I'd be amazed.

Talking to the wrong crowd then. Ask the wrong (or right) student in the history department about Japan, and you'll get a couple hour-long lecture. Or, in my case, a rant about how it's a shame we swept Japan's crimes under the run to the extent we did.

jsbhike
03-19-20, 08:20
Another problem I have noticed is far too many people (both for and against) tend to believe a system more akin to fascism = free market capitalism.

flenna
03-19-20, 09:18
I thought socialism means everyone gets a free Prius, free iPhone, free college education and a 6 figure salary. Have I been misled?

Grand58742
03-19-20, 09:52
Talking to the wrong crowd then. Ask the wrong (or right) student in the history department about Japan, and you'll get a couple hour-long lecture. Or, in my case, a rant about how it's a shame we swept Japan's crimes under the run to the extent we did.

Actually, I've seen the narrative we forced Japan into war through our trade practices. We should have kept trading with them (despite the horrors they were inflicting in China) and "minded our own business."

You really want to see a liberal pop their top? Mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

jsbhike
03-19-20, 10:21
Actually, I've seen the narrative we forced Japan into war through our trade practices. We should have kept trading with them (despite the horrors they were inflicting in China) and "minded our own business."

You really want to see a liberal pop their top? Mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I don't think we forced them in to it, but not sure about the official story of total surprise being accurate either.

I have seen claims American business made Japan's rise possible by selling them steel and Smedley Butler mentioned in 1935 his opinion we were trying to piss them off.

Grand58742
03-19-20, 10:26
I don't think we forced them in to it, but not sure about the official story of total surprise being accurate either.

I have seen claims American business made Japan's rise possible by selling them steel and Smedley Butler mentioned in 1935 his opinion we were trying to piss them off.

It's not a huge secret FDR wanted us in that war, though I think he was more provocative towards the Germans than the Japanese.

I don't want to thread drift too far, but the videos where they go on campus and ask about military history are always funny.

kerplode
03-19-20, 10:57
College kids are always so confident in their moral and intellectual superiority while, all the while, knowing exactly jack shit.

At least some of them sort themselves out when they're kicked into the cold reality of the real world.

KUSA
03-19-20, 12:00
At least a few of them learned something by the end of the video.

jsbhike
03-19-20, 12:05
At least a few of them learned something by the end of the video.

Kind of surprising, but that guy does seem to have a good way of interacting with others.

I wish I(and a lot of others) could pull that off.

Hank6046
03-19-20, 12:17
College kids are always so confident in their moral and intellectual superiority while, all the while, knowing exactly jack shit.

At least some of them sort themselves out when they're kicked into the cold reality of the real world.

So I went to college about 6 years ago after getting out, and I was really surprised at how many kids understood that progressive mindset is ultimately a failing one, even at a pretty liberal college. That being said, it was the faculty and staff that really pushed the liberal agenda down everyone's throats. I think that we have a massive gap in this country, where the "poor" aren't so poor and want to keep the handout they are getting, and then the liberal elite who think that their brilliance can save us from our selves. In the middle you have people who actual work for a living, college educated or not. These people elected Trump, or at least rejected Hillary.

3 AE
03-19-20, 13:39
I am no longer surprised by how willfully ignorant college populations are.

If you asked them what Japan did during WWII I bet most couldn't tell you. If you can find anyone who actually knows Japan fought on the allied side during WWI I'd be amazed.

I'd probably pass out from shock if any of them could point to Japan on a world map!

SteyrAUG
03-19-20, 16:32
Talking to the wrong crowd then. Ask the wrong (or right) student in the history department about Japan, and you'll get a couple hour-long lecture. Or, in my case, a rant about how it's a shame we swept Japan's crimes under the run to the extent we did.

I'm glad YOU know, but I have yet to meet a college student that knew anything other than "something, something Pearl Harbor." Oh and they know we dropped two atomic bombs on Japan, apparently without any provocation.

I think if I ever met a college student at the university level who could tell me what Unit 731 was, I'd probably buy him lunch. But things like Nanking, Bataan Death March, General Homma, Ishii and his Togo unit and our shameful exchange of immunity for data and too many other things to list, seems nobody is teaching anyone about any of that stuff.

jsbhike
03-19-20, 20:23
I'm glad YOU know, but I have yet to meet a college student that knew anything other than "something, something Pearl Harbor." Oh and they know we dropped two atomic bombs on Japan, apparently without any provocation.

I think if I ever met a college student at the university level who could tell me what Unit 731 was, I'd probably buy him lunch. But things like Nanking, Bataan Death March, General Homma, Ishii and his Togo unit and our shameful exchange of immunity for data and too many other things to list, seems nobody is teaching anyone about any of that stuff.

I have learned much more historical information on my own than I ever did in school. As an example, I was in my 20's before reading Patrick Henry's War Inevitable speech in it's entirety (versus the last line only) which is chock full of great points.

SteyrAUG
03-20-20, 01:09
I have learned much more historical information on my own than I ever did in school. As an example, I was in my 20's before reading Patrick Henry's War Inevitable speech in it's entirety (versus the last line only) which is chock full of great points.

Besides reading, writing, math and science...I'd conservatively estimate they wasted 75% of my time in school on social indoctrination. About 40% of the history I was taught had basic fundamental errors or extremely one sided viewpoints. I could have literally stopped at 8th grade and done my own research and been way ahead of the game.

Who knew? At least I spent a lot of that time playing video games and chasing girls so it wasn't all a total waste.

Alpha-17
03-20-20, 08:31
I'm glad YOU know, but I have yet to meet a college student that knew anything other than "something, something Pearl Harbor." Oh and they know we dropped two atomic bombs on Japan, apparently without any provocation.


Wouldn't just be me; one of my fellow grad students here specializes in Japanese history, especially WWII. He knows more than I ever will on the subject. He also teaches undergrad classes and passes on a lot of this. The moral of the story is that while the average, run of the mill student might not know history worth a damn, there are still plenty of us that do. It's a shame that military history is devalued to the extent it is; more people might actually pay attention if they hadn't been encouraged to think it was just "names and dates" of "old white guys."

jsbhike
03-20-20, 08:58
Besides reading, writing, math and science...I'd conservatively estimate they wasted 75% of my time in school on social indoctrination. About 40% of the history I was taught had basic fundamental errors or extremely one sided viewpoints. I could have literally stopped at 8th grade and done my own research and been way ahead of the game.

Who knew? At least I spent a lot of that time playing video games and chasing girls so it wasn't all a total waste.

Better than me. Beyond basic elementary school math, I only had 1 high school geometry teach that truly had skill in transferring her knowledge to others AND could give examples of how geometry could be used in the real world. The rest were basically useless on transferring knowledge (BIG, BIG IF they knew how to do it themselves) and for sure had no clue what it could be used for outside the classroom and I really wonder if they could function outside a school setting. If it wasn't for a computer science teacher that knew what she was doing on algebra and would tutor us and a student teacher that knew what he was doing with trig assigned to a veteran teacher that didn't, it would have been an even greater waste of time.