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WillBrink
04-06-20, 19:16
For me, least favorite was Octopussy

Favorite is not easy, but Live And Let Die is my choice.

It just has everything in a Bond movie I want, and set a world record for longest boat jump in this scene:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upQ-MXF_ZgI

Sam
04-06-20, 21:43
I don't even count the movie with George Lazenby as a real Bond movie. I really don't like the one with Timothy Dalton, can't stand him and the story was weak.

I have to say my favorite is Skyfall. Liked it so much, i bought the watch.

arptsprt
04-06-20, 22:32
Old: For Your Eyes Only (but it’s hard not to vote for a Connery flick)

New: Casino Royale


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OH58D
04-06-20, 22:32
I like "The Man with the Golden Gun", but the British Actor Christopher Lee has always been a favorite of mine.

Both that film and "Live and Let Die" gave us character actor Clifton James...."a swamp full of Black Russians". Pure fun.

SteyrAUG
04-06-20, 22:40
The bond spoof Casino Royale (1967) because of Woody Allen. Just hated that crap and despise Woody Allen.

Hard to have a favorite, love "You Only Live Twice" because of it's showcase of Japanese martial arts and Donn Draeger functioned as a stand in for Sean Connery and technical advisor.

I think Goldfinger is the quintessential Bond movie from opening sequence / theme song to storyline to cool gadgets and girls. But I absolutely loved the new Casino Royale and Daniel Craig was to me the first convincing Bond the Fleming books imagined and the lack of 60s camp was refreshing. Sean Connery could pull it off most of the time, Roger Moore could pull it off some of the time and the other two guys who played Bond after that...I can't even remember their names of the movies.

SteyrAUG
04-06-20, 22:43
For me, least favorite was Octopussy

Favorite is not easy, but Live And Let Die is my choice.

It just has everything in a Bond movie I want, and set a world record for longest boat jump in this scene:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upQ-MXF_ZgI

Live and Let Die might be the greatest Bond theme song ever, although I admit a fondness for Duran Duran's "A View To A Kill" even though the movie was mostly hard to watch.

just a scout
04-06-20, 23:09
The new Casino Royale is my favorite. Anything before that was too campy, over the top and full of ridiculous gadgets.


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dpb1776
04-06-20, 23:22
Moonraker was probably the one I least liked, But after that is hard to do a favorite. Skyfall, You only live twice, Goldfinger, Diamonds are forever. But probably Skyfall gritty and he had to use his brain ans was short on gadgets. Plus I really like the new Money Penny

SteyrAUG
04-07-20, 02:37
I'm gonna be odd man out, I really didn't care for Skyfall. I think Quantum of Solace was better, but not as good as Casino.

PatEgan
04-07-20, 02:57
'Skyfall' by a f******g mile.

I saw 'Skyfall' as an aging 'Action Man,' and it really resonated. That movie made a point to depict an aging, damaged operative in what is and always will be a young man's game. It hit closer to home and is appealing because the others never showed the cost of fighting, being wounded, having shit broken/torn/hyperextended, etc. Props for that. The Daniel Craig movies were better for that, but the rest were just fantasy for theater goers.

WillBrink
04-07-20, 08:17
Live and Let Die might be the greatest Bond theme song ever, although I admit a fondness for Duran Duran's "A View To A Kill" even though the movie was mostly hard to watch.

Perhaps the most underrated Bond film. Christopher Walken, Tanya Roberts, and Grace Jones in one movie, killer sound track, etc. Walken was great.

Alpha-17
04-07-20, 08:47
Having grown up in the 90s, Bronson's films fill my top and bottom slots.

Least: Die Another Day
It's campy, goofy, has face swaps and stupid gadgets out the ass. Even Halle Berry doesn't help this film.

Most: Tomorrow Never Dies
I love the concept of a media mogul using his power and influence to start a war. Very Spanish-American War of him, after all. I also loved the flash-point they used, and the UK/China conflict as being believable but not the generic US/Bad guy match up. It still has its failings, but the concept was solid, and I'd love to see similar stories in the future.

Korgs130
04-07-20, 09:23
I enjoy the Daniel Craig Bond films a lot, but I have a soft spit for the Roger Moore films because that’s what I grew up watching.

My favorite - The Man with the Golden Gun

Honorable Mention - Never Say Never Again. Very underrated remake of Thunderball. The young Kim Basinger is hot, plus one of the henchmen rocks a 93R ;-)

Least Favorite- Die Another Day

WillBrink
04-07-20, 10:11
I'm gonna be odd man out, I really didn't care for Skyfall. I think Quantum of Solace was better, but not as good as Casino.

Casino was the only one I really liked and hoped that would be the new approach for Bond, but it was not to be. I didn't care for Skyfall, but liked it more than Quantum of Solace.

Grand58742
04-07-20, 11:12
Skyfall, Goldfinger and Goldeneye are probably the best three IMO. It's hard picking one in particular to be the "best" though I'd probably put Skyfall into the Blu-ray before the others.

On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Die Another Day and For Your Eyes Only were my least favorites.

Grand58742
04-07-20, 11:14
I'm gonna be odd man out, I really didn't care for Skyfall. I think Quantum of Solace was better, but not as good as Casino.

I liked Skyfall for the simple fact it gave some background to Bond and his upbringing. Plus, I think Judi Dench was probably the best M of all time.

Grand58742
04-07-20, 11:19
Now, rate your Bonds in order of favorite to least... the Eon Production films and not the others.

1. Sean Connery
2. Daniel Craig
3. Pierce Brosnan
4. Roger Moore
5. Timothy Dalton (though he was actually what Ian Fleming envisioned Bond to look like)
6. George Lazenby

Averageman
04-07-20, 11:35
'Skyfall' by a f******g mile.

I saw 'Skyfall' as an aging 'Action Man,' and it really resonated. That movie made a point to depict an aging, damaged operative in what is and always will be a young man's game. It hit closer to home and is appealing because the others never showed the cost of fighting, being wounded, having shit broken/torn/hyperextended, etc. Props for that. The Daniel Craig movies were better for that, but the rest were just fantasy for theater goers.

I think this was why it appealed to me so much. Nothing hurts as much as having been there and back and you turn your head and twenty years have flashed by.


Now, rate your Bonds in order of favorite to least... the Eon Production films and not the others.

1. Sean Connery
2. Daniel Craig
3. Pierce Brosnan
4. Roger Moore
5. Timothy Dalton (though he was actually what Ian Fleming envisioned Bond to look like)
6. George Lazenby

I agree, but think your 1 and 2 picks might actually be a tie.
Connery is the perfect 1969's Bond for a kinder gentler era, Craig is the post 9/11 evil mean SOB post 9/11.

chuckman
04-07-20, 12:41
Least, Dalton's movies. Bleh. Edited to add, I liked how he played him, just weren't my favorite movies. Contrasted, I liked Moore's movies, but not his jokester approach.

Fave, Skyfall. Bond as soulful, human, conflicted, and hurt.

Good interview with Craig:

https://www.gq.com/story/daniel-craig-james-bond-no-time-to-die-cover-2020

mrbieler
04-07-20, 13:25
Connery is the iconic Bond and Daniel Craig and the new stuff is awesome, but I love On Her Majesty's Secret Service and thought Lazenby did a great job. He did a lot of the stunt work including the skiing. The movie followed the book closely. It's one of my favorites.

I think Lazenby is domed to be hated as he replaced Connery and was a one and done Bond. He was a moron for walking away from the franchise.

Diamondback
04-07-20, 13:45
Connery was way before my time, but what I grew up on as a kid watching with Grandpa. That said, it's ironic that the "kinder gentler" Moore got two of the most brutal kills in the series, both in FYEO: tossing Locque off a cliff and dumping Blofeld down a smokestack from a chopper.

Grand58742
04-07-20, 14:14
Connery is the iconic Bond and Daniel Craig and the new stuff is awesome, but I love On Her Majesty's Secret Service and thought Lazenby did a great job. He did a lot of the stunt work including the skiing. The movie followed the book closely. It's one of my favorites.

I think Lazenby is domed to be hated as he replaced Connery and was a one and done Bond. He was a moron for walking away from the franchise.

I liked it from the aspect of giving background on Bond (like Skyfall) but didn't care for Lazenby as a Bond overall. I try to put him into other Bond flicks of the period and just don't see him fitting very well. I mean, Connery pulled off Diamonds Are Forever with his usual panache. Live and Let Die was a good flick that I can't picture Lazenby performing the role of Bond. Same with The Man With the Golden Gun.

You're correct he was in the unenviable position of following up Connery, but he didn't have the "it" factor.

WillBrink
04-07-20, 14:34
Woops.

SteyrAUG
04-07-20, 15:17
Perhaps the most underrated Bond film. Christopher Walken, Tanya Roberts, and Grace Jones in one movie, killer sound track, etc. Walken was great.

I thought Grace Jones ruined it, as she ruins most films. Walken was great as usual.

Grand58742
04-07-20, 16:33
I thought Grace Jones ruined it, as she ruins most films. Walken was great as usual.

Definitely not your typical Bond Girl.

SteyrAUG
04-07-20, 17:16
Definitely not your typical Bond Girl.

Besides being excessively dudish, I don't think she's a good actress. In every film she more or less plays a version of herself. Was also hard for me to watch her pretending to be a "black belt" martial artist and the fight choreography was extra painful.

I hate that she's worked as a model, it's offensive. It's like having Chris Elliot being a male model.

Jones was only ever good in one film, Boomerang and again it is because she played herself only this time she actually fit the story line and didn't detract from it.

jmoore
04-07-20, 17:55
Least fav: anything with Roger Moore

Most fav: As much as I was raised on Sean, it has to be Skyfall

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vandal5
04-07-20, 20:23
I think Die Anither Day was the absolute worst. Way too much CGI and poorly done. From the wind surfing to the invisable car...

Feel like they were trying to go bigger and better with everything and it just ruined it.

I like just about all the other ones for what they are/were.

Liking the Daniel Craig, stunts come across as more realistic, Bond isn't indestructible but still kicks ass.

SteyrAUG
04-07-20, 22:16
I think Die Anither Day was the absolute worst. Way too much CGI and poorly done. From the wind surfing to the invisable car...

Feel like they were trying to go bigger and better with everything and it just ruined it.

I like just about all the other ones for what they are/were.

Liking the Daniel Craig, stunts come across as more realistic, Bond isn't indestructible but still kicks ass.

That is what made me love Casino Royale. When he got poisoned and was seriously effe'd up I totally bought it. No other Bond ever played it that real, not even Connery.

dpb1776
04-07-20, 22:39
Perhaps the most underrated Bond film. Christopher Walken, Tanya Roberts, and Grace Jones in one movie, killer sound track, etc. Walken was great.

Tanya Roberts back in the day inhabited my dreams on a nightly basis. I have watched Beastmaster a million times just for that one seen. Then she started doing soft porn and for some reason I moved on lol

SteyrAUG
04-07-20, 22:52
Tanya Roberts back in the day inhabited my dreams on a nightly basis. I have watched Beastmaster a million times just for that one seen. Then she started doing soft porn and for some reason I moved on lol

Pssst. Might want to watch "That 70's Show." And yeah, Tanya in Beastmaster....OMG. She was right on the heels of Lynda Carter in Wonder Woman and Erin Gray in Buck Rogers. I seem to have missed her "soft core" years, I'm going to have to look into that and expand my DVD library.

dpb1776
04-07-20, 23:03
I forgot all about Erin Gray wonder if she ever did some nudity. I think I'm gonna have to put in the Beastmaster now for a quick glimmer. I never could watch the 70's show I hated that decade my mom bought me plaid bellbottoms that were several inches to short that I had to wear because parents didn't care back then lol, which made me a punching bag at school, but taught me to fight so that is something. Plus I hated the Beatles since my uncles forced me to listen to them all the time, sacrilege I know. But I just don't like the 70's except for the Trans-am and the Stingray that is

Spiffums
04-08-20, 07:47
I've came around to the Craig films but I am still firmly against the whole "reboot Bond" bullshit! But I do enjoy the story lines and how they connect in the new movies. Really all I'd change is Fines as M and maybe Judy has moved up in the spy game but Bond still holds loyalty to her so everything goes the same way for the saga.

Least Favorite is easy for me, A View To A Kill. Walken was great playing Walken the bond villain but it just wasn't a good story/movie to me. Maybe it was too English or just Roger was getting too old and couldn't pull off his "Diamonds are Forever" like Sean did.

Favorite Bond movie is tons harder because there are sooo many that I just love. I guess From Russia With Love is the one I can never skip if it's on. It's the classic starter with gadgets and girls and Bond being Bond.

Spiffums
04-08-20, 07:50
Besides being excessively dudish, I don't think she's a good actress. In every film she more or less plays a version of herself. Was also hard for me to watch her pretending to be a "black belt" martial artist and the fight choreography was extra painful.

I hate that she's worked as a model, it's offensive. It's like having Chris Elliot being a male model.

Jones was only ever good in one film, Boomerang and again it is because she played herself only this time she actually fit the story line and didn't detract from it.

I see that and my brain screams STEEL VAGINA!!!!

WillBrink
04-08-20, 08:15
I thought Grace Jones ruined it, as she ruins most films. Walken was great as usual.

I thought she was ok in that movie, mostly because she had very few lines. I didn't find her detracting from an otherwise fun Bond movie that stuck the right balance in line up of Bond movies. Bond, being the ho he is, of course had to bang her too. Good times.

Grand58742
04-08-20, 08:20
Besides being excessively dudish, I don't think she's a good actress. In every film she more or less plays a version of herself. Was also hard for me to watch her pretending to be a "black belt" martial artist and the fight choreography was extra painful.

I hate that she's worked as a model, it's offensive. It's like having Chris Elliot being a male model.

Jones was only ever good in one film, Boomerang and again it is because she played herself only this time she actually fit the story line and didn't detract from it.

Pam Grier might have had potential for that role if we are keeping with black actresses of the time period.

Grand58742
04-08-20, 08:27
I think Die Anither Day was the absolute worst. Way too much CGI and poorly done. From the wind surfing to the invisable car...

The Aston Martin Vanquish instantly made my wet dream of cars list after that movie.

Doesn't even need to be invisible, but I wouldn't mind the optional target seeking shotguns.

dlrflyer
04-08-20, 11:29
Fave.....flip between From Russia with Love and Thunderball, with Goldfinger right in there. I just prefer the movies with Spectre.

Worst....Never Say Never Again. Horrible remake of Thunderball.

Diamondback
04-08-20, 13:41
Thunderball is to blame for my love affair with the Avro Vulcan... somehow appropriate that the movie's heaviest star ended up being the last of its kind in the sky.

SteyrAUG
04-08-20, 13:41
Pam Grier might have had potential for that role if we are keeping with black actresses of the time period.

Pam Grier or any number of hundreds of black actresses if we needed to do diversity. Pretty much anyone but Grace Jones. Grace Jones then was like making Leslie Jones now a Bond girl.

Spiffums
04-08-20, 18:34
Fave.....flip between From Russia with Love and Thunderball, with Goldfinger right in there. I just prefer the movies with Spectre.

Worst....Never Say Never Again. Horrible remake of Thunderball.

It made more money than the official bond film that was out at the same time.

ramairthree
04-08-20, 19:27
It’s tough.

Connery was the classic.
Moore is what gen Xers saw growing up and a very comical Bond for kids.

Lazenby was rumored to be some real life Australian SAS guy that just didn’t pull it off, although more reviled than deserved in my opinion, then lost to the counter culture.

Dalton, Brosnan, and Craig all nailed certain aspects.

Overall, everything is so overtop it’s hard when they are trying to be serious, and a fine line from funny to ridiculous.

SteyrAUG
04-08-20, 21:55
It’s tough.

Connery was the classic.
Moore is what gen Xers saw growing up and a very comical Bond for kids.

Lazenby was rumored to be some real life Australian SAS guy that just didn’t pull it off, although more reviled than deserved in my opinion, then lost to the counter culture.

Dalton, Brosnan, and Craig all nailed certain aspects.

Overall, everything is so overtop it’s hard when they are trying to be serious, and a fine line from funny to ridiculous.

Roger Moore was way before Gen X, Live and Let Die was 1973. But yeah hard to take him seriously, everything was a goof so when they tried to put him in a perilous moment you really didn't buy it because everything was a goof. The running across alligator heads in the first film was a perfect example.

They present everything as a life or death moment and then come up with the most absurd solutions it's like they had the writers from Scooby Doo. Even with Connery they were pushing the camp to the extreme, once it was Roger Moore it's like they felt they had to make it even more campy.

Ron3
04-09-20, 07:41
As usual the books are better.

But as far as the movies my favorites are Live and Let Die, Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, For Your Eyes Only, and On Her Majesty's Secret Service. In no order.

The Dalton films were pretty good, too. As were the first couple Craig films. The ones since were very forgetful.

I hated the Brosnan films. He was okay, I just thought the movies were really goofy and just didn't like them.

Ron3
04-09-20, 07:52
One other thing about the books. The plots aren't quite as grandiose as the movies.

In Diamonds Are Forever the movie they have in the plot diamond smuggling, city-destroying laser-weapon satellites, and nuclear weapons, too.

The book is about....diamond smuggling. Bond has a Beretta .25. Go. 😁

Grand58742
04-09-20, 09:06
I hated the Brosnan films. He was okay, I just thought the movies were really goofy and just didn't like them.

I certainly thought Goldeneye was up there in terms of good Bond flicks. It was the first Bond flick to depict how the world was changing from the Cold War and covered Russia pretty well.

Brosnan had the potential to be the best Bond had they given him plots and scenes worthy of his talents.

ramairthree
04-09-20, 10:44
Roger Moore was way before Gen X, Live and Let Die was 1973. But yeah hard to take him seriously, everything was a goof so when they tried to put him in a perilous moment you really didn't buy it because everything was a goof. The running across alligator heads in the first film was a perfect example.

They present everything as a life or death moment and then come up with the most absurd solutions it's like they had the writers from Scooby Doo. Even with Connery they were pushing the camp to the extreme, once it was Roger Moore it's like they felt they had to make it even more campy.


Perfect example. Little gen X kid watching the Sunday night movie network premieres of those bond movies with stuff like that.

WillBrink
04-09-20, 11:33
Roger Moore was way before Gen X, Live and Let Die was 1973. But yeah hard to take him seriously, everything was a goof so when they tried to put him in a perilous moment you really didn't buy it because everything was a goof. The running across alligator heads in the first film was a perfect example.

They present everything as a life or death moment and then come up with the most absurd solutions it's like they had the writers from Scooby Doo. Even with Connery they were pushing the camp to the extreme, once it was Roger Moore it's like they felt they had to make it even more campy.

But Bond was never about realism, and a balance of action and camp was Bond. Some pushed the camp too far and ruined it, but for me, meant to be fun and not taken seriously. If I didn't suspend disbelief and enjoy the camp, they would have just been totally unrealistic action movies. For some, Moore pushed the camp too far, and in some movies he did. Craig in Casino was a major turn away from the camp stuff, and I really enjoyed it, but following films took themselves too seriously, which then turned off my suspension of disbelief and I started rolling eyes at the stunts, plot, etc. and that ruined it for me. Connery was probably the best balance on the camp thing, but the Moore movies had better visuals, sets, etc as I assume bigger budgets.

To me, Bond was never intended to be taken seriously because if i did, the house of cards came down and I didn't enjoy it. Had they been able to build off of Royal where Bond -via Craig - was a much more realistic Bond, I would have been fine with that too, but what they tried to do was remove the camp, and yet have Bond villains, gadgets, etc that left me rolling my eyes a lot.

Grand58742
04-09-20, 12:21
But Bond was never about realism, and a balance of action and camp was Bond. Some pushed the camp too far and ruined it, but for me, meant to be fun and not taken seriously. If I didn't suspend disbelief and enjoy the camp, they would have just been totally unrealistic action movies. For some, Moore pushed the camp too far, and in some movies he did. Craig in Casino was a major turn away from the camp stuff, and I really enjoyed it, but following films took themselves too seriously, which then turned off my suspension of disbelief and I started rolling eyes at the stunts, plot, etc. and that ruined it for me. Connery was probably the best balance on the camp thing, but the Moore movies had better visuals, sets, etc as I assume bigger budgets.

To me, Bond was never intended to be taken seriously because if i did, the house of cards came down and I didn't enjoy it. Had they been able to build off of Royal where Bond -via Craig - was a much more realistic Bond, I would have been fine with that too, but what they tried to do was remove the camp, and yet have Bond villains, gadgets, etc that left me rolling my eyes a lot.

One thing about the Daniel Craig Bond, he got his ass kicked regularly which is what we didn't see in the previous five Bonds

vandal5
04-09-20, 13:31
The Aston Martin Vanquish instantly made my wet dream of cars list after that movie.

Doesn't even need to be invisible, but I wouldn't mind the optional target seeking shotguns.While I do like and look forward to the Austin Martin in the Bond films my fave from Die another Day was the 993 Porsche they destroyed in the beginning.

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Ron3
04-09-20, 13:38
I certainly thought Goldeneye was up there in terms of good Bond flicks. It was the first Bond flick to depict how the world was changing from the Cold War and covered Russia pretty well.

Brosnan had the potential to be the best Bond had they given him plots and scenes worthy of his talents.

Ok, Brosnans first movie was just OK, I haven't seen it in 15 yrs probably, should watch it again.

I agree about him though, I was excited to learn he got the JB role.

Ron3
04-09-20, 13:42
But Bond was never about realism, and a balance of action and camp was Bond. Some pushed the camp too far and ruined it, but for me, meant to be fun and not taken seriously. If I didn't suspend disbelief and enjoy the camp, they would have just been totally unrealistic action movies. For some, Moore pushed the camp too far, and in some movies he did. Craig in Casino was a major turn away from the camp stuff, and I really enjoyed it, but following films took themselves too seriously, which then turned off my suspension of disbelief and I started rolling eyes at the stunts, plot, etc. and that ruined it for me. Connery was probably the best balance on the camp thing, but the Moore movies had better visuals, sets, etc as I assume bigger budgets.

To me, Bond was never intended to be taken seriously because if i did, the house of cards came down and I didn't enjoy it. Had they been able to build off of Royal where Bond -via Craig - was a much more realistic Bond, I would have been fine with that too, but what they tried to do was remove the camp, and yet have Bond villains, gadgets, etc that left me rolling my eyes a lot.

Yes. They had a good thing with Craig in Casino but they couldn't stand to stay in that idiom. They just HAD to add the Matrix Kung-Fu and other-worldly inhuman stunts.

Too bad.

Ron3
04-09-20, 13:49
While I do like and look forward to the Austin Martin in the Bond films my fave from Die another Day was the 993 Porsche they destroyed in the beginning.

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Hehe...in the books he likes custom 1930's luxury hot rods. Custom as in he'll have a Bentley chassis with another make supercharged drivetrain. Which could actually be done pretty easily back then.

He had real problems during car chases (including a crash that could have killed him) because he'd be chasing or being chased by a far more capable car than his powerful land yacht. But, he dug the style and dumped most of his money into them, keeping only small places to live.

Basically, he liked big, handsome muscle cars. Maybe today Ian Fleming would have him drive a Dodge Challenger? Nah, not exotic enough for Bond.

WillBrink
04-09-20, 14:35
Yes. They had a good thing with Craig in Casino but they couldn't stand to stay in that idiom. They just HAD to add the Matrix Kung-Fu and other-worldly inhuman stunts.

Too bad.

I didn't read the books but that was supposedly much closer to the Ian Fleming books, so I thought that might be the way forward with Craig, and I though that was great. Then they had to go and F it up as you outlined above. I'd rather just have the old camp tongue in cheek Bond, then the last few Bond movies.

Ron3
04-09-20, 14:48
I didn't read the books but that was supposedly much closer to the Ian Fleming books, so I thought that might be the way forward with Craig, and I though that was great. Then they had to go and F it up as you outlined above. I'd rather just have the old camp tongue in cheek Bond, then the last few Bond movies.

Yea, Casino Royale was much like the flavor of the books. I really liked that.

As for drinking, Bond smoked and drank hard, especially in restaurants. He smoked constantly. Must have stunk bad.

titsonritz
04-09-20, 15:08
Least Favorite: Anything with Roger Moore, but especially The Man With the Golden Gun & Moonraker.

Most favorite: As much as I like Sean Connery a the classic Bond, Goldfinger being my favorite, I prefer the Daniel Craig movies with Casino Royale being my favorite.

Ron3
04-09-20, 15:22
Least Favorite: Anything with Roger Moore, but especially The Man With the Golden Gun & Moonraker.


Those were so bad!

The book Moonraker (SPOILER ALERT!) was ONE small nuclear warhead snuck onboard ONE rocket under the guise of a test. (The whole operation run by the villain) A Russian sub was also involved.

Not good enough for the movie though 🙄🙄🙄

Nah, they needed a fleet of subs, stolen subs, stolen space craft, 8 space shuttles, a perfect genetic engineered super-human race and poisonous satellites threatening to kill all humans on earth. 😖😖😳😳🙄🙄🤭🤭

Just stupid. That's Star Trek not James Bond.

WillBrink
04-09-20, 15:44
Yea, Casino Royale was much like the flavor of the books. I really liked that.

As for drinking, Bond smoked and drank hard, especially in restaurants. He smoked constantly. Must have stunk bad.

Was a total ho in the books too? I hope so!

ramairthree
04-09-20, 15:47
Least Favorite: Anything with Roger Moore, but especially The Man With the Golden Gun & Moonraker.

Most favorite: As much as I like Sean Connery a the classic Bond, Goldfinger being my favorite, I prefer the Daniel Craig movies with Casino Royale being my favorite.

Again, perfect example of Moore as the kid favorite Bond.

Some 8 or 12 or whatever year old gen x Er seeing space soidiers and shuttles, etc. on the tv network premier.

WillBrink
04-09-20, 15:48
Those were so bad!

The book Moonraker (SPOILER ALERT!) was ONE small nuclear warhead snuck onboard ONE rocket under the guise of a test. (The whole operation run by the villain) A Russian sub was also involved.

Not good enough for the movie though ������

Nah, they needed a fleet of subs, stolen subs, stolen space craft, 8 space shuttles, a perfect genetic engineered super-human race and poisonous satellites threatening to kill all humans on earth. ����������������

Just stupid. That's Star Trek not James Bond.


I have to admit that that was one was so stupid, I actually enjoyed it. It was closer to a Austin Powers movie than Bond, but it was so grandiose in the stupid, it worked for some strange reason. I can see why some would put it at the bottom of the list.

Diamondback
04-09-20, 15:49
Was a total ho in the books too? I hope so!

The original novels were frequently rather obscene, The Man With The Golden Gun in particular. "Is it female? Is it breathing? GAME ON..."

WillBrink
04-09-20, 15:52
The original novels were frequently rather obscene, The Man With The Golden Gun in particular.

That warms my heart. Craig was stuck in PC land as Bond, and womanizing would been frowned on by that time, so he hooked up with what, one gal per movie? Meh.

Ron3
04-09-20, 17:59
I have to admit that that was one was so stupid, I actually enjoyed it. It was closer to a Austin Powers movie than Bond, but it was so grandiose in the stupid, it worked for some strange reason. I can see why some would put it at the bottom of the list.

Well, yea, I suppose it would be enjoyable that way.

Ron3
04-09-20, 18:01
The original novels were frequently rather obscene, The Man With The Golden Gun in particular. "Is it female? Is it breathing? GAME ON..."

Yea, later it was like that. Earlier he was "is she the one?!" Several times.

TMWTGG was more graphic than I expected violence wise.

The_War_Wagon
04-09-20, 18:14
I liked MOST of them before Pierce Brosnan. I absolutely DETEST the current politically-correct ones, with chicks as "M" & "Q," and have therefore refused to watch them. :mad:

Renegade
04-09-20, 18:34
Least - anything with Daniel Craig

Would have liked to see Her Majesty's Secret Service with Sean Connery.

SteyrAUG
04-09-20, 18:37
That warms my heart. Craig was stuck in PC land as Bond, and womanizing would been frowned on by that time, so he hooked up with what, one gal per movie? Meh.

I think that was because they created the Bond Girl. If you have 8 women in the film, they all want status as the Bond Girl. Take popular UK actress Caroline Munro who had maybe 5 minutes in "The Spy Who Loved Me" but makes every list of "Bond Girls" due to her roles in other films. Obviously the Bond Girl in that film was Barbara Bach. Another famous UK actress Valerie Leon also had a 5 second part in the same film but sometimes makes a Bond Girl list.

So I think that status as an actress who has been a "bond girl" became so important there could only be one.

titsonritz
04-09-20, 19:17
I think that was because they created the Bond Girl. If you have 8 women in the film, they all want status as the Bond Girl. Take popular UK actress Caroline Munro who had maybe 5 minutes in "The Spy Who Loved Me" but makes every list of "Bond Girls" due to her roles in other films. Obviously the Bond Girl in that film was Barbara Bach. Another famous UK actress Valerie Leon also had a 5 second part in the same film but sometimes makes a Bond Girl list.

So I think that status as an actress who has been a "bond girl" became so important there could only be one.


Which means it's long past time for some Ménage à trois action.

pinzgauer
04-09-20, 22:49
Now, rate your Bonds in order of favorite to least... the Eon Production films and not the others.

Snip

5. Timothy Dalton (though he was actually what Ian Fleming envisioned Bond to look like)
6. George Lazenby

So in college I found the original books in paperback in a used bookstore for super cheap. So I read all the books Flemming wrote. (And his short stories)

This changed my perception some after mostly seeing Moore and later, Connery.

Of the three at the time, Lazenby was the closest to the books, followed by Connery.

The Dalton films were uneven, but I thought he played Bond well and also close to the books.

Craig hit the balance of charm, wit, and toughness, but physically does not look like my mental picture of Bond.

Bond films are like BBQ and Key Lime pies. Some are better than others, but even the bottom ranked ones are still better than no Bond.

Except for the Jaws in space one. And the weird 70's duo henchmen with the round glasses and bad haircuts.

SteyrAUG
04-09-20, 22:54
Which means it's long past time for some Ménage à trois action.

And the time to do that was when Caroline Munro and Valerie Leon were in their prime. It could have totally rescued "The Spy Who Loved Me."

pinzgauer
04-09-20, 23:10
Hehe...in the books he likes custom 1930's luxury hot rods. Custom as in he'll have a Bentley chassis with another make supercharged drivetrain. Which could actually be done pretty easily back then.

He had real problems during car chases (including a crash that could have killed him) because he'd be chasing or being chased by a far more capable car than his powerful land yacht. But, he dug the style and dumped most of his money into them, keeping only small places to live.

Basically, he liked big, handsome muscle cars. Maybe today Ian Fleming would have him drive a Dodge Challenger? Nah, not exotic enough for Bond.Bond of the books brought to 2020 would drive a custom based on a (dowdy & fallen from grace) Caddy CTS-V body but with an 800hp Mopar Hellcrate engine. And a 7 speed A/T out of a Cummins Ram.

Ron3
04-10-20, 12:56
Bond of the books brought to 2020 would drive a custom based on a (dowdy & fallen from grace) Caddy CTS-V body but with an 800hp Mopar Hellcrate engine. And a 7 speed A/T out of a Cummins Ram.

Yea that's not bad! Not sure he'd go American made though. Is that CT-S the Alpha platform and was it developed by Daimler? If so that might work. I think he'd prefer a British or German car, but I dont think he'd rule out anything.

pinzgauer
04-10-20, 13:22
Yea that's not bad! Not sure he'd go American made though. Is that CT-S the Alpha platform and was it developed by Daimler? If so that might work. I think he'd prefer a British or German car, but I dont think he'd rule out anything.The CTS-V was the caddy that 70 something year old Bob Lutz issued an open challenge, drove his daily driver to Laguna Seca, and came very close to the lap time of a factory prepped BMW with a professional racer. The V was the up-powered version. (Earlier ones were v6s).

Fair point regarding defending the crown's honor... He would take a '70s vintage Jaguar XJS and put the hellcrate 800hp V8, suitable 7 spd AT , and giant disc brake rotors with dual calipers. With suitable suspension tuning.

But look stock from the outside.

Or maybe drop in a Rolls Royce Merlin 1000hp aircraft engine. Stretch the hood a little bit if needed.

Yep, that's what I'm going with. An XJS with a Merlin v12.

The body has to be a little bit out of style, but still have an elegant grace and be a handsome car if viewed objectively.

pinzgauer
04-10-20, 13:23
Rats, now I'm looking for cheap XJS's to repower cuz Bond would have done so.

Turns out Lister beat me to it. Turn the XJS into a Ferrari beater with a 7liter twin supercharged 604hp engine, 6 spd manual, tuned suspension and brakes. 200 mph.

https://www.autoweek.com/car-life/events/a1863171/604-hp-lister-jaguar-xjs-70-le-mans-coupe-powerslides-auction/

That's what Bond of the Flemming books would drive today.

As nice as the vanquish is, it would be too trendy for him. And too common. Neuvo Rich, what unwashed new money would drive.

XJ-S, I can dig it!

Ron3
04-10-20, 14:32
Rats, now I'm looking for cheap XJS's to repower cuz Bond would have done so.

Turns out Lister beat me to it. Turn the XJS into a Ferrari beater with a 7liter twin supercharged 604hp engine, 6 spd manual, tuned suspension and brakes. 200 mph.

https://www.autoweek.com/car-life/events/a1863171/604-hp-lister-jaguar-xjs-70-le-mans-coupe-powerslides-auction/

That's what Bond of the Flemming books would drive today.

As nice as the vanquish is, it would be too trendy for him. And too common. Neuvo Rich, what unwashed new money would drive.

XJ-S, I can dig it!

Damn, dude! You nailed it! 😎👏👏

Business_Casual
04-10-20, 16:47
I like "The Man with the Golden Gun", but the British Actor Christopher Lee has always been a favorite of mine.

Both that film and "Live and Let Die" gave us character actor Clifton James...."a swamp full of Black Russians". Pure fun.

I agree, Britt Ekland added a certain interesting factor to that movie.

Five_Point_Five_Six
04-10-20, 17:16
Gen X kid here, favorite is any of the Connery Bond films. Second favorite would be Daniel Craig. Roger Moore a distant 3rd, Pierce Brosnan 4th, and the others are just forgotten.

If you have a Roku device or app ready tv, if you download Pluto TV, it's free, they have a 24hr Bond channel that just plays them over and over.

If you really want to get your fix of 80's and early 90's nostalgia, there's an Unsolved Mysteries channel as well, the originals with Robert Stack not the remakes with Dennis Farina.

Grand58742
04-11-20, 11:19
I liked MOST of them before Pierce Brosnan. I absolutely DETEST the current politically-correct ones, with chicks as "M" & "Q," and have therefore refused to watch them. :mad:

I think Judi Dench did a slam up job as M in the movies she starred in. They made M into more of a supporting character with her instead of just deep background like the others.

elephant
04-11-20, 16:57
Top 3 favorite Bond Girls:

1. Anya Amasova
2.Vesper Lynd
3.Domino Derval

Favorite Bond Films:

1. Thunderball
2. Goldeneye
3. Skyfall

Now, this is hard for me to do, so...I'm treading lightly:

I like Daniel Craig as bond more than any other bond. But I like all the Rodger Moore Bond films better than any other films. I think the plots in the Timothy Dalton films were best. And the Gadgets used in Sean Connery films.

chuckman
04-11-20, 17:03
Goldfinger was on last night. That remains probably the most popular and most beloved movie. It was iconic, it made more money then the first two, the musical score made it on the pop charts, and really cemented Sean Connery in that role.

pinzgauer
04-11-20, 18:42
As I'm reading this thread, "No, Mr. bond... I expect you to die!" popped into my head.

So that must be my favorite scene, or at least interchange.

SteyrAUG
04-11-20, 20:44
As I'm reading this thread, "No, Mr. bond... I expect you to die!" popped into my head.

So that must be my favorite scene, or at least interchange.

And as much as it's a great line, Austin Power's had it nailed with Seth Green..."I can go get a gun and we can shoot him right now."

SteyrAUG
04-11-20, 20:47
Top 3 favorite Bond Girls:

1. Anya Amasova
2.Vesper Lynd
3.Domino Derval



Much as I dig Eva Green, my top three Bond Girls are:

1. Ursula Andress
2. Ursula Andress
3. Ursula Andress

Honorable mention: Jane Seymore.

Ron3
04-11-20, 22:22
Much as I dig Eva Green, my top three Bond Girls are:

1. Ursula Andress
2. Ursula Andress
3. Ursula Andress

Honorable mention: Jane Seymore.

In the books, "Honeychile" is about 15 years old if I recall. Bond admires her youth and beauty but doesnt touch her.

Oh, Bond brings to the Island one of two handguns he was given by M and Q and Chief of staff to try out. A S&W Airweight .38 special. And little sack of loose rounds. 😄

Quarrel has an M1 Carbine.

SteyrAUG
04-11-20, 23:02
In the books, "Honeychile" is about 15 years old if I recall. Bond admires her youth and beauty but doesnt touch her.

Oh, Bond brings to the Island one of two handguns he was given by M and Q and Chief of staff to try out. A S&W Airweight .38 special. And little sack of loose rounds. ��

Quarrel has an M1 Carbine.

She was 26 in the film, I stand by my answer.

Grand58742
04-12-20, 08:04
I have to say it's hard to pin down three specific Bond Girls that are my favorite. So, here's a brief list in no particular order:

Diana Rigg (Tracy Bond in Her Majesty's Secret Service) - Hard to beat the one that stole Bond's heart

Daniela Bianchi (Tatiana Romanova in From Russia With Love) - Let's face it, we all might have thoughts of switching sides if she showed up wearing little more than a choker in our bed

Eva Green (Vesper Lynd in Casino Royale) - Those eyes...

Sophie Marceau (Elektra King in The World is Not Enough) - I've been a fan of hers for a long time.

Izabella Scorupco (Natalya Simonova in Goldeneye) - Still smoking hot to this day I might add

Carole Bouquet (Melina Havelock in For Your Eyes Only) - I don't know what it was about her.

Honorable Mention: Carey Lowell (Pam Bouvier in Licence to Kill) While I typically don't care for short hair on women, she certainly pulled it off

yellowfin
04-13-20, 21:15
^ I concur with this list and would like to add Monica Belluci (Lucia Sciarra in Spectre). YUM!

The Dumb Gun Collector
04-13-20, 22:25
I am going to admit it, I liked Moonraker

sundance435
04-14-20, 17:28
^ I concur with this list and would like to add Monica Belluci (Lucia Sciarra in Spectre). YUM!

I’ve always found her and Elizabeth Hurley to be two of the most beautiful women ever. They’ve both aged far better than I could ever hope for.

Unpopular opinion here, but I don’t think the Bond movies age well - the Roger Moore ones especially. I’m partial to the newer ones, with “Skyfall” and “Goldeneye” being my favorites.

SteyrAUG
04-15-20, 22:13
So watching Casino Royale again and I must say Caterina Murino is definitely working my weakness for Italian women.

Budget
04-16-20, 01:31
I grew up on Goldeneye and its N64 video game counterpart but having rewatched it, it is every bit as corny as the rest of them.

Possible unpopular opinion, but Timothy Dalton and Daniel Craig are the best Bonds. Dalton is quintessential Bond. Cool but not Rape-y like Connery and Moore. Brosnan was just ok.

Craig is metal. Just brutal in a IDGAF kinda way. So for me, Skyfall is a masterpiece and likely the best Bond flick. It's a movie so theres dumb Hollywood stuff in there. I really loved Spectre too.

Moonraker was fun. Jaws is a dumb yet loveable character. Ultimately not a bad guy.

I don't really care for Goldfinger. Thunderball I dig.

All in all Bond is the English equivalent to Mission Impossible. Or vice versa. Only Craig has managed to stray from the repeated storyline.