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ramairthree
04-14-20, 00:24
A directors/ultimate cut,
High quality release remaster, etc.
And was hugely under appreciated/ unsuccesful.
1987s Extreme Prejudice is my pick.
Director, writer, etc. with high quality work.
Tons of fun porn.
Like from an all star game of 80s Guns at the perfect synthesis of revolvers, SAs, full autos, pumps, and lever guns. With reloads, looking for cover, Mag changes, and very respectable fun play for the era from some.
A brutally violent and desolate combo 80s movie / noir/ western / crime drama.
Old school sheriffs and rangers mixed with beyond non official cover operatives.
Honor, betrayal, love, brotherhood, corruption, loyalty, etc.
Performances from Powers Boothe, Michael Ironside, R. Torn, Clancy Brown, etc. plus naked wet shower titties from a 20 something year old Maria Alonso when filmed.
Many fantastic movies came out in 1987.
Was it lost among them?
sandsunsurf
04-14-20, 00:39
Heat. People have heard of it or watched it once, but it’s an amazing movie with character development, background, action, love and an absolute conclusion (no “Heat, part 2”). Best movie ever, and it doesn’t get the praise it should.
Edit: as an experienced cop, some poor rookie got assigned to work “street crimes” with me on a “crime patrol” OT spot on what should have been his first day solo.. about two hours into the shift I said something about rolling through a pretty hard neighborhood and without knowing then if he knew the reference, I said “for me the reward is worth the stretch..”. He Frickin Nailed it without pausing and said “well for me, the action is the juice. I’m in.”
We are still friends 15 years later..
ramairthree
04-14-20, 01:25
Heat was a famous movie that made over four times its budget and has a special edition DVD, definitive edition Blu-ray with extended/selected scenes, etc.
It would be a crime if it didn’t.
Extreme Prejudice was a box office bomb that one person has seen or heard of for every thousand that know about other movies from the same year like Lethal Weapon or Predator.
Available on an out of print DVD that in a horrible box, non widescreen crappy VHS transfer.
Heat is kind of like the diametrically opposed opposite version of what I am talking about.
RobertTheTexan
04-14-20, 03:22
Heat.
This.
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Heat. People have heard of it or watched it once, but it’s an amazing movie with character development, background, action, love and an absolute conclusion (no “Heat, part 2”). Best movie ever, and it doesn’t get the praise it should.
That's one of mine. Michael Mann's greatest film I think. I can still watch it over and over and not just for the gun stuff. Mann's perfected his visual style with this film. How he then went on to F up the film version of Miami Vice I will never understand.
I would also say "Once Upon A Time In America", from beginning to end it tells a story well.
I would also include "We We're Soldiers" because in my opinion it was the first HONEST movie about Vietnam. It also had those moments, like when everyone was walking to the pickup point at 4am with a rifle and duffel. If you've never done anything like that maybe you don't get it, but if you have...it's a powerful scene.
The first Godfather. Everyone likes Part II, but I always liked the first. It was powerful without explosions, it was also intricate and you either caught an important tidbit or you missed it.
Grand58742
04-14-20, 06:24
Tombstone
With it and Heat, it's time to lock the thread.
Tombstone
With it and Heat, it's time to lock the thread.
I read somewhere that there IS a directors cut of Tombstone, however I’ve not been able to find it. Maybe I should search again...
My pick - Man On Fire. Obviously it would have to be a prequel since Creasy is depicted as having died at the end of MOF. I would’ve wanted to see more of his background and the things that developed his troubled persona.
"Heat" was the theatrical version of a made-for-TV movie called "LA Takedown". In fact, some of the dialog is word-for-word between the two.
I read somewhere that there IS a directors cut of Tombstone, however I’ve not been able to find it. Maybe I should search again...
My pick - Man On Fire. Obviously it would have to be a prequel since Creasy is depicted as having died at the end of MOF. I would’ve wanted to see more of his background and the things that developed his troubled persona.
This is the Tombstone DC I was thinking of, however I’ve not been able to find a copy:
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=2550
EDIT - not able to find locally...didn’t think to look on eBay. Go figure, multiple sellers some even new in packaging! Search Tombstone Vista.
FromMyColdDeadHand
04-14-20, 08:34
Heat was a famous movie that made over four times its budget and has a special edition DVD, definitive edition Blu-ray with extended/selected scenes, etc.
It would be a crime if it didn’t.
Extreme Prejudice was a box office bomb that one person has seen or heard of for every thousand that know about other movies from the same year like Lethal Weapon or Predator.
Available on an out of print DVD that in a horrible box, non widescreen crappy VHS transfer.
Heat is kind of like the diametrically opposed opposite version of what I am talking about.
A lot of people Are so young that they have never heard it Heat or Ronin, never mind marathon man or the French connection.
What about “Way of the Gun”, or “To Live and Die in LA.”. The first one never really got very much recognition, and while “to live and die” is seen as today having a lot of big stars in it, all those guys were relativity unknown at that time. Plus I just love the gritty action of it and the realism because it was based on a real Secret Service agents book. Plus about the perfect soundtrack for the action and peace in the movie.
Travelingchild
04-14-20, 08:45
Just watch various clips of "Extreme Prejudice" on Youtube. What a forgotten movie, and as OP stated they actually reloaded.LOL
Then "Southern Comfort" popped up..
Blazing Saddles.
A lot of people I know have never seen it somehow.
Grand58742
04-14-20, 09:24
I read somewhere that there IS a directors cut of Tombstone, however I’ve not been able to find it. Maybe I should search again...
My pick - Man On Fire. Obviously it would have to be a prequel since Creasy is depicted as having died at the end of MOF. I would’ve wanted to see more of his background and the things that developed his troubled persona.
I have the Director's Cut. Nothing major added for the most part, but still, it's the Director's Cut.
Okay, maybe we need to keep the thread open. Man on Fire was pure awesome.
Grand58742
04-14-20, 09:25
Blazing Saddles.
A lot of people I know have never seen it somehow.
With today's PC culture, I'm almost afraid to bring up something like that.
Blazing Saddles.
A lot of people I know have never seen it somehow.
Yasss!
I would add Airplane! to the list.
With today's PC culture, I'm almost afraid to bring up something like that.
In today’s PC culture Mel Brooks would not have been able to make any of his movies. He made fun of everyone....
rexster314
04-14-20, 09:58
"Heat" was the theatrical version of a made-for-TV movie called "LA Takedown". In fact, some of the dialog is word-for-word between the two.
Which is on youtube
A lot of people Are so young that they have never heard it Heat or Ronin, never mind marathon man or the French connection.
What about “Way of the Gun”, or “To Live and Die in LA.”. The first one never really got very much recognition, and while “to live and die” is seen as today having a lot of big stars in it, all those guys were relativity unknown at that time. Plus I just love the gritty action of it and the realism because it was based on a real Secret Service agents book. Plus about the perfect soundtrack for the action and peace in the movie.
JFC you’re right. Way Of The Gun.
I have the Director's Cut. Nothing major added for the most part, but still, it's the Director's Cut.
Okay, maybe we need to keep the thread open. Man on Fire was pure awesome.
I saw it once on cable, I remember a few scenes that were longer and some of the riding scenes were extra cinematic (longer times, extended music). Haven’t seen the DC on tv since.
MOF FTW.
Averageman
04-14-20, 10:32
The first Godfather. Everyone likes Part II, but I always liked the first. It was powerful without explosions, it was also intricate and you either caught an important tidbit or you missed it.
I believe Coppola made a directors cut where I and II were actually cut together. Anyway I have seen the combined I and II and it is amazing.
Once an Eagle. It was a mini-series based on the book with Sam Elliott. Came out in the mid/later 1970s(?).
Once an Eagle. It was a mini-series based on the book with Sam Elliott. Came out in the mid/later 1970s(?).
Wait, there is a film version of that??
A directors/ultimate cut,
High quality release remaster, etc.
And was hugely under appreciated/ unsuccesful.
1987s Extreme Prejudice is my pick.
Director, writer, etc. with high quality work.
Tons of fun porn.
Like from an all star game of 80s Guns at the perfect synthesis of revolvers, SAs, full autos, pumps, and lever guns. With reloads, looking for cover, Mag changes, and very respectable fun play for the era from some.
A brutally violent and desolate combo 80s movie / noir/ western / crime drama.
Old school sheriffs and rangers mixed with beyond non official cover operatives.
Honor, betrayal, love, brotherhood, corruption, loyalty, etc.
Performances from Powers Boothe, Michael Ironside, R. Torn, Clancy Brown, etc. plus naked wet shower titties from a 20 something year old Maria Alonso when filmed.
Many fantastic movies came out in 1987.
Was it lost among them?
Thank you for mentioning that movie I am ordering it on Amazon right now, love that movie and it is almost impossible to find.
The_War_Wagon
04-14-20, 11:42
- Fistful of Dollars
- For a Few Dollars More
- The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly
No argument against ANY of the choices so far, but these have all been replaying during our imprisonment, so I've been watching them again. Lee Van Cleef especially, MAKES the last two.
Love the Godfathers (even III, in SPITE of Sofia Coppola), Goodfellas, & Casino, but if you want a GANGSTER movie, check out the Coen Bros. "Miller's Crossing." Gabriel Byrne's first American film, and the story is VERY tight. I'll drop EVERYTHING to watch that - anytime or any place.
Grand58742
04-14-20, 12:08
Forgot one...
The Usual Suspects
For me, it has to be Thief. Quite possibly the first film where we saw dedicated gun handling skills employed in cinema that set the precedent only Michael Mann could follow up. The first meeting with Tataglia, Jim Belushi pulling overwatch with a G3 (foreshadowing to Heat), and the culminating scene all excellently executed. Plus gratuitous Jim Hoag long-slide 1911 screen-time.
Also "I don't believe in lifetime subscriptions"
No argument against ANY of the choices so far, but these have all been replaying during our imprisonment, so I've been watching them again. Lee Van Cleef especially, MAKES the last two.
DUDE. You reminded me about one of my favorites of the genre aside from the awful quality I watched it in. Love me a good revenge tale.
Death Rides A Horse
Just watch various clips of "Extreme Prejudice" on Youtube. What a forgotten movie, and as OP stated they actually reloaded.LOL
Then "Southern Comfort" popped up..
Extreme Prejudice may have been a good idea, but the movie was poorly executed. While Nolte was an excellent choice for his role, and Powers Boothe was also a solid pick, the director's vision and execution of the supporting roles reduced them to caricatures. I'd be willing to bet that Nolte doesn't list it as one of his highlight films. If I had to pick a film which Nolte 'made' it would be 48 Hours.
All in all, while I think a new version with a better director and editor would be an vast improvement I don't think the screenplay is worth a redo.
In terms of:
Pick one movie that it is a shame/crime for not having
A directors/ultimate cut,
High quality release remaster, etc.
And was hugely under appreciated/ unsuccesful.
I'd go with The Laughing Policeman. I'd really like to see what the director left on the floor. Looking back, that movie was way beyond the 70's.
Also the Hunted (1995) with Christopher Lambert, underrated and underappreciated Samurai vs Ninja movie. The train fight scene ranks as one of the best.
I read somewhere that there IS a directors cut of Tombstone, however I’ve not been able to find it. Maybe I should search again...
My pick - Man On Fire. Obviously it would have to be a prequel since Creasy is depicted as having died at the end of MOF. I would’ve wanted to see more of his background and the things that developed his troubled persona.
I think it worked better with his level of aggression coming out of nowhere and with little warning.
I believe Coppola made a directors cut where I and II were actually cut together. Anyway I have seen the combined I and II and it is amazing.
The Godfather Saga, parts I & II edited for tv but run together in chronological order. I have it. It's an epic, but I still prefer the original Godfather.
- Fistful of Dollars
- For a Few Dollars More
- The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly
No argument against ANY of the choices so far, but these have all been replaying during our imprisonment, so I've been watching them again. Lee Van Cleef especially, MAKES the last two.
Love the Godfathers (even III, in SPITE of Sofia Coppola), Goodfellas, & Casino, but if you want a GANGSTER movie, check out the Coen Bros. "Miller's Crossing." Gabriel Byrne's first American film, and the story is VERY tight. I'll drop EVERYTHING to watch that - anytime or any place.
Miller's Crossing is actually excellent. If you can find it Bonanno: A Godfathers Story, it's mostly self serving fiction, but still an enjoyable film.
Also the Hunted (1995) with Christopher Lambert, underrated and underappreciated Samurai vs Ninja movie. The train fight scene ranks as one of the best.
If you haven't seen them track down "The Equals aka The Challenge" with Scott Glenn and Toshiro Mifune and "The Yakuza" with Robert Mitchum and Tanaka Ken.
The Hunted is an excellent "east meets west" film. The best is probably still The Yakuza. The sword choreography in that film is more realistic than anything I've ever scene.
Grand58742
04-14-20, 16:17
I think it worked better with his level of aggression coming out of nowhere and with little warning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5KQ0fgNTIk
sundance435
04-14-20, 17:12
I’ll add “Saving Private Ryan”. I don’t think there’s a director’s cut. I remember being in awe of it as a teenager when it came out, but now, after the D-Day scene, I notice it’s flaws more and more. It’s really 3 different movies that are never tied together. As others on here have said, “Thin Red Line” is the better war movie (I believe there is a director’s cut of that), as far as what both were trying to capture. I don’t know if Spielberg left anything on the floor, but I have to think 15 more minutes would’ve really helped. It was a big gamble at the time, though, and he and Dreamworks were very surprised by its huge success.
Speaking of Spielberg, “Lincoln” could greatly benefit from a director’s cut, even though it’s already 2.5 hours. Having read the book it’s based on, I think 5-10 more minutes of the right content would really put it up there as a masterpiece. It’s already close based on Day-Lewis’s performance alone. Seward/Strathairn isn’t given the true supporting role either deserved - he’s really more of a plot device.
Also, I’ll just add that as far as Michael Mann, the “Last of the Mohicans” director’s cut leaves a lot to be desired, as far as extended editions or higher quality versions go. If there was a Dolby edition, the sound alone would put it in my top 10 (it already is).
Blade Runner Directors Cut.
The Hunted I forgot that one I really enjoyed that movie the drunk swordsmith was well played, plus the lady who lost her head I can't remember her name was easy on the eyes
The Hunted I forgot that one I really enjoyed that movie the drunk swordsmith was well played, plus the lady who lost her head I can't remember her name was easy on the eyes
That was Joan Chen and yes easy on the eyes.
The swordsmith was actually martial arts expert Tak Kubota, who among other things developed the kubotan for law enforcement.
Blade Runner Directors Cut.
Along those lines, I'd add Metropolis, especially since we now have a completely restored original edit version. And did anyone else happen to think Dolores on the last episode of Westworld was sorta channeling Bridgette Helm?
I kind of wish there was a director's cut for "The Final Countdown" :D Forty years later, the same aircraft carrier is still with us, only with different aircraft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5KQ0fgNTIk
One of the many great lines in the film. But like Heat, it's a remake of an earlier film and for the life of me I can't understand how two actors like Walken and Pesci could make such an unremarkable film as the original "Man on Fire."
Blade Runner Directors Cut.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083658/alternateversions
That was Joan Chen and yes easy on the eyes.
The swordsmith was actually martial arts expert Tak Kubota, who among other things developed the kubotan for law enforcement.
Yes she she is. That’s interesting on Tak Kubota I never new that
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Speaking of movies with Christopher Lambert I have the director’s cut if the original Highlander. The scene with Clancy Brown in the church is awesome
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FromMyColdDeadHand
04-14-20, 22:50
I kind of wish there was a director's cut for "The Final Countdown" :D Forty years later, the same aircraft carrier is still with us, only with different aircraft.
I saw that on the Sunday Night Movie when I was a kid and I deep into WWII aircraft, especially in the Pacific. Splashing the Zeroes was cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=474RR1ETgyk
The video is not as cool as you'd hope it would be.
Just to be clear, I have never seen:
The Godfather 1,2 or 3
Any Quentin Tarantino film
Any Marvel film except Iron Man
Jurassic Park
Titanic
Tombstone
Blade Runner
ET
Matrix
Die Hard
Lethal Weapon
Rambo
Terminator- except Judgement Day
Apollo 13
and a whole list of other movies.
However, there are 2 movies I think everyone should own:
The Muppets Christmas Carol: The part when Tiny Tim starts to cough while singing gets me everytime.
Forest Gump: No need to explain
teufelhund1918
04-15-20, 06:46
I have a lot of favorites, but two old school John Wayne westerns I like are The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance and True Grit. I think Jeff Bridges did a good job in True Grit also.
Very surprised to not see the "Greatest Movie of All Time" listed here:
The Shawshank Redemption (and the Story of Rita Hayworth).
The book was, of course, much better. But it was a fantastic portrayal of one of King's best Mini-Novels.
Den of Thieves.
This pays homage to Heat. A heist film involving a crew of veterans. Just watched it last night. The opening scene is phenomenal. Excellent tactics, shooting.
Manhunter
Outstanding 80's film From the great Michael Mann. FBI hunts serial killer
Thief
Another one of Michael Mann's finest. James caan went to gunsite to prepare for this. He makes good use of a Commander.
Slapshot
Paul Newman. 1977 hockey film. Because laughter is the best medicine
1_click_off
04-15-20, 22:44
Cool Hand Luke
Along those lines, I'd add Metropolis, especially since we now have a completely restored original edit version. And did anyone else happen to think Dolores on the last episode of Westworld was sorta channeling Bridgette Helm?I'm liking the latest twist in Westworld.
Just to be clear, I have never seen:
Snip
(Long list of must see movies)
Tsk tsk, who was looking after your education????
Sorry, breaking the rules for 'one' movie. Consider it a working list:
-Kudos to Will Brink for 'Bladerunner - The Director's Cut.'
-Cinderella Man
-The Lord of the Rings
-The Lost Battalion (with Ricky Schroeder)
-James Bond - Skyfall
-13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi
-The Count of Monte Christo (with James Caviezel)
-Last of the Mohicans
-Warhorse
-Gladiator
Tsk tsk, who was looking after your education????
was never much for watching TV, I was always listening to music
FromMyColdDeadHand
04-17-20, 11:58
https://youtu.be/uzwNprjkemc
The only thing missing from this movie was a P7.
I promise you a day of reckoning that you won't live long enough to never forget.
https://youtu.be/uzwNprjkemc
The only thing missing from this movie was a P7.
I promise you a day of reckoning that you won't live long enough to never forget.
The Way of the Gun probably has the best and most realistic gun handling of any movie. Christopher McQuarrie’s brother is a Navy SEAL who was the technical adviser on this movie.
I had to watch Way of the Gun a couple of times to really appreciate it.
My addition: End of Watch. Mostly for the character interaction between Jake Gyllenhaal and Michael Pena as patrol partner. They got the interaction, banter, and partnership pretty damn close to perfect. The gangsters also match well based on my experiences with West Coast bangers.
Runner-Up: Dr. Stangelove. I feel it expertly captured the early Cold War tensions between the US and Soviet Union, then translated it into a dark comedy. Peter Sellers playing three roles, George C. Scott, Sterling Hayden, a young James Earl Jones.
Honorable mentions: Blazing Saddles (couldn't be done today), 13 Hours, Bullitt, to name a few.
The Way of the Gun probably has the best and most realistic gun handling of any movie. Christopher McQuarrie’s brother is a Navy SEAL who was the technical adviser on this movie.
Sadly the movie itself was a giant dog turd full of characters I either didn't care about or didn't like and a story that I just didn't give a shit about. One of the worst movies I've ever seen. I think I'd rather watch a good movie with terrible gun handling, like Predator.
Heat was the pinnacle for brilliant film with excellent gun handling, number two would probably be Thief but I personally don't think the film itself was that powerful.
The Way of the Gun probably has the best and most realistic gun handling of any movie. Christopher McQuarrie’s brother is a Navy SEAL who was the technical adviser on this movie.
Strongly agree.
Sadly the movie itself was a giant dog turd full of characters I either didn't care about or didn't like and a story that I just didn't give a shit about. One of the worst movies I've ever seen. I think I'd rather watch a good movie with terrible gun handling, like Predator..
Strongly disagree.
Sadly the movie itself was a giant dog turd full of characters I either didn't care about or didn't like
Then mission accomplished as McQuarrie said he purposely wrote the movie to have no endearing characters. Besides, seeing Sarah Silverman get punched in the face was worth the price of admission.
Then mission accomplished as McQuarrie said he purposely wrote the movie to have no endearing characters. Besides, seeing Sarah Silverman get punched in the face was worth the price of admission.
If they actually punched Silverman in the face, I'd agree.
I read somewhere that there IS a directors cut of Tombstone, however I’ve not been able to find it. Maybe I should search again...
Never seen it myself, but there’s a few copies on eBay. From IMDB ‘A "Vista Series" director's cut was released in February 2002. Just under five minutes of never-before-seen footage were restored.’
Cosmatos was a genius. Nice man too, in the little time I worked with him. He took over a very troubled movie that was well into its filming schedule, and was given a limited budget to bring his vision to life. He succeeded beyond anyone’s dreams. The sad part was that later he was blinded as a result of a failed surgery, and then died while the hyenas fought over control of his estate.
Im surprised that Lawerence of Arabia isn’t on the list. I’d put that movie up against any other. Lawrence was a complicated man if there ever was one.
And if you haven’t seen The Light Horsemen, do yourself a favor and grab one of the newer DVDs. It’s from a television cut of the movie, with a couple of awkward breaks, and cuts to black for commercials, but the Aussies make a hell of a WWI movie. And it has an amazing battle scene at the end.
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ramairthree
04-18-20, 02:01
Lots of awesome movies named here.
Some are already famous and we’ll know.
Other deserve the mention in case someone over looked them.
It pains me how some crappy movies have extended versions, special edition blu rays, etc. while others so much better barely are available.
We all forgot about COBRA.
sundance435
04-20-20, 21:23
Slapshot
Paul Newman. 1977 hockey film. Because laughter is the best medicine
Saw “Slapshot” for the first time a few weeks ago. Loved it, hilarious movie!
I'm going to throw the Emperor's Club in the mix. It wasn't an action movie but I thought it was a really good moral story.
I'll also add the Goonie's just for fun. And Secondhand Lions.
Saw “Slapshot” for the first time a few weeks ago. Loved it, hilarious movie!
One of the best sports movies, ever....
And Secondhand Lions.
Actually a really great movie, even if it did make me feel old. One of my students gave it to me because he said it reminded him of me. [sigh]
sundance435
04-21-20, 19:09
I'm going to throw the Emperor's Club in the mix. It wasn't an action movie but I thought it was a really good moral story.
I'll also add the Goonie's just for fun. And Secondhand Lions.
I think "Emperor's Club" was underappreciated - sometimes good things happen to bad people. Also agree with "Secondhand Lions".
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