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Buncheong
05-25-20, 13:48
“Adam added that while the virus has devastated communities and upended daily life, it has also shown that ‘we're in this together.’
‘It just shows the significance of the global village and how interconnected and interdependent we are as a world community," he said.’”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/historic-ramadan-call-prayer-echoes-minnesota-city-200424145353618.html

The_War_Wagon
05-25-20, 14:04
Sounds like a camel with congestive heart failure, coughing up a hairball. :bad:

sgtrock82
05-25-20, 15:31
Eff that noise. Someone ought to seize control of that system and subject them to "battle of new orleans", "snoopy vs the red baron" and "ballad of the green beret" in a loop till their tiny little liberal heads explode in a fashion that we might actually benefit from.




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gunrunner505
05-25-20, 20:44
This country is being willing flushed down the crapper. I’m terrified of the United States my kids will live in when I’m gone. We’re somehow celebrating the fact the local terrorist indoctrination center spewed their BS over loudspeakers. I wonder what would happen if the local Catholic Church got loudspeakers?


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AndyLate
05-25-20, 20:54
I bet people are less tolerant of the call to prayer at Fajr on the third day. I don't see it as the end of America, we have had Muslims in our country since the beginning.

But, no.one better bitch about a Nativity scene at Christmas.

Andy

Jellybean
05-25-20, 22:29
Yeah, they're spreading everywhere and it must be celebrated, what else is new... :rolleyes:

LMT Shooter
05-25-20, 23:27
......

But, no.one better bitch about a Nativity scene at Christmas.

Andy

Yeah, right. It's still gonna be OK for leftist turds to take a shit on white, Christian, heterosexual, pro-gun, conservative, or male anything, that's not gonna change because of this.

26 Inf
05-26-20, 01:28
We still have some Church bells on Sundays out here in the country. Generally loudspeakers. I'd be more concerned about the nuisance potential if the call is loud enough to be heard city wide.

SteyrAUG
05-26-20, 03:05
Ya know, if the mere sight of a rebel flag stirs distress in people to the point that it must be removed and we must remove all civil war monuments dedicated to the south then absolutely the muslim call to prayer distresses me to exactly the same extent and is synonymous with the 9-11 terrorist attacks and all other terrorist attacks.

It is the same to me as the sound of the Horst Wessel is to surviving europeans jews. The muslim call the prayer should be considered a hate crime.

yoni
05-26-20, 06:45
The Constitution protects their rights to religious freedom. Today it is Muslims, tomorrow it is Southern Baptist for what ever reason, and the week following it is Jews.

That should be the clean by the book answer.

But that would be a stupid answer, given by a person that knows nothing about Islam.

One of the principals of Islamic warfare, is to infiltrate the country of the infidel and to slowly make them accept Islam. Islam was founded by a child rapist, murdering psychopath, and it was spread more by the sword and the principles of Islamic warfare, than by hadji's going door to door and say we want to spread to you the good news of a goat humper.

Socialism/communism and Islam, are outside the pale and never should be allowed to take root in the USA. Problem is 50% of the country is socialist that support Islam taking root in the USA.

I could tell to a story of a young man that moved into an apartment in French Hill on the east side of Jerusalem about a million years ago. On the 3rd night of Ramadan, after not getting sleep the prior 2 night till like 3 am due to the noise from the arab village across the gully. Seems the 3rd night the speakers all went dead one after the other. M14 with night vision and a can on the barrel took care of the noise.

AndyLate
05-26-20, 07:14
I am concerned that the calls for prayers will cause significant stress to some of our fellow Vets.

I may just be too tolerant, considering a young sailor got shot by a terrorist Thursday but survived, stopped him from entering the base, and then tucked him in for a well deserved dirt nap.

Andy

1168
05-26-20, 07:51
I am concerned that the calls for prayers will cause significant stress to some of our fellow Vets.


Doesn’t bother me, or most of my friends. Fireworks do, but nobody cares, nor am I asking them to.

Co-gnARR
05-26-20, 08:03
I’m just waiting for the city to go full retard and allow goat sacrifices in the streets.

Alpha-17
05-26-20, 08:19
I don't see the problem. No different than Church bells, constitutionally speaking, and I'm about as anti-Islam as they come. I chatted about this in a vet group last month when it was in the news. Few vets there likely have a problem with it, and of those that do, it's more of an anti-Islam/anti-all religion thing than honest PTSD. Even still, being against people exercising their First Amendment Rights because it will offend another small minority is the kind of thing we're supposed to be against, right?

czgunner
05-26-20, 08:36
It wouldn’t cause me trauma, but it creeps me out and I wouldn’t want to listen to it.
I agree constitutionally it’s the same as church bells, but that crap makes me think of a nasty 3rd world country, and not America.

Adrenaline_6
05-26-20, 09:56
Yea...first amendment and all. What time though? If it is in the wee hours of the night or morning, that is a no go. Noise restrictions apply to everyone. If church bells went blasting in the wee hours of the night for that long, there would be definitely be bitching and understandably so.

AndyLate
05-26-20, 10:59
Yea...first amendment and all. What time though? If it is in the wee hours of the night or morning, that is a no go. Noise restrictions apply to everyone. If church bells went blasting in the wee hours of the night for that long, there would be definitely be bitching and understandably so.

They got an exception. Call to first prayer is before dawn.

Adrenaline_6
05-26-20, 11:21
They got an exception. Call to first prayer is before dawn.

OK, the thing is would they give the same exception to other religions? If not, preferential treatment is not ok.

SteyrAUG
05-26-20, 17:40
The Constitution protects their rights to religious freedom. Today it is Muslims, tomorrow it is Southern Baptist for what ever reason, and the week following it is Jews.

That should be the clean by the book answer.

But that would be a stupid answer, given by a person that knows nothing about Islam.

One of the principals of Islamic warfare, is to infiltrate the country of the infidel and to slowly make them accept Islam. Islam was founded by a child rapist, murdering psychopath, and it was spread more by the sword and the principles of Islamic warfare, than by hadji's going door to door and say we want to spread to you the good news of a goat humper.

Socialism/communism and Islam, are outside the pale and never should be allowed to take root in the USA. Problem is 50% of the country is socialist that support Islam taking root in the USA.

I could tell to a story of a young man that moved into an apartment in French Hill on the east side of Jerusalem about a million years ago. On the 3rd night of Ramadan, after not getting sleep the prior 2 night till like 3 am due to the noise from the arab village across the gully. Seems the 3rd night the speakers all went dead one after the other. M14 with night vision and a can on the barrel took care of the noise.

I'm all for freedom of religion, I'm opposed to be subjected to a religion. Calls to prayer aren't like a nativity scene, I can choose to not drive by a nativity scene (or a muslim equivalent) and not be triggered. But just as I shouldn't have to listen to my neighbors shitty music, I shouldn't have to listen to any religious broadcast that reaches all the way to my house and annoys me.

Other people get their "feelz" validated, not listening to that kind of shit is one of the few things I actually get "feelings" about.

SteyrAUG
05-26-20, 17:49
It wouldn’t cause me trauma, but it creeps me out and I wouldn’t want to listen to it.
I agree constitutionally it’s the same as church bells, but that crap makes me think of a nasty 3rd world country, and not America.

Does that mean the local skin head group gets to broadcast the Horst Wessel prior to their Christian Identity services?

I don't think a call to prayer is mandatory to practice islam. I think it's a way that they create social obligation. They could group text everyone if they wanted to, people could set their alarm. Seems everyone else has a way to get reminded to go to church without forcing the neighbors to know about it. islam should be forced to conform to that 20th century standard in the US.

We have church bells but that is why I didn't buy a house blocks away from the church. I paid more so I wouldn't have to deal with them waking me up. But jacklegs yodelling what sounds to my ear like "Allah Snackbar" over a loudspeaker could reach all across town and that's about as troubling to me as Skokie residents being treated to a loudspeaker blasting "duetschland uber alles."

The_War_Wagon
05-26-20, 18:13
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czgunner
05-26-20, 20:32
Does that mean the local skin head group gets to broadcast the Horst Wessel prior to their Christian Identity services?

I don't think a call to prayer is mandatory to practice islam. I think it's a way that they create social obligation. They could group text everyone if they wanted to, people could set their alarm. Seems everyone else has a way to get reminded to go to church without forcing the neighbors to know about it. islam should be forced to conform to that 20th century standard in the US.

We have church bells but that is why I didn't buy a house blocks away from the church. I paid more so I wouldn't have to deal with them waking me up. But jacklegs yodelling what sounds to my ear like "Allah Snackbar" over a loudspeaker could reach all across town and that's about as troubling to me as Skokie residents being treated to a loudspeaker blasting "duetschland uber alles."

I agree with everything you bring up. I hated hearing that crap when I was in Iraq. Not promoting, defending it, just that our constitution allows freedom of worship and then you get these special interest idiots and lawyers that snivel about how it’s needed for their religion. Pair that with bleeding heart leadership and wacky judges...next thing you know it sounds like Tikrit in those cities.

utahjeepr
05-26-20, 21:15
So why can't I jam Motorhead and Metallica at the same volume in the same neighborhood on Saturday evening?

AndyLate
05-27-20, 07:48
I don't really care one way or another if a mosque is allowed to broadcast calls to prayer. I damn sure would get tired of hearing it, but I don't live in an area with a significant Muslim population either.

What I do care about is the fact that the same people who think it's a wonderful thing would flip the f!&# out if the city issued a church a permit to put a simple nativity scene on public property or if a Christian has the temerity to wish them a Merry Christmas.

Andy

yellowfin
05-27-20, 12:59
Good grief, as if this wasn't bad enough then they're going to make a TV show of it next called It's Always Sunni in Philadelphia.

Dr. Bullseye
05-27-20, 13:19
I don't know why they are here. Did anyone wake up this morning and wish for another Muslim immigrant? How about thousands? Just how have Muslims contributed to this country? Give me five examples. OK, just give me one example.

yoni
05-27-20, 13:24
I don't know why they are here. Did anyone wake up this morning and wish for another Muslim immigrant? How about thousands? Just how have Muslims contributed to this country? Give me five examples. OK, just give me one example.

Muslim Contributions to USA

1. Honor killings, better named Honor Murder
2. Support for Terrorism both fighters than have gone over seas and raising of billions of dollars of support
3. Child Brides
4. Slavery
5. Terror attacks in the USA
6. Ilhan Omer and Rashid Talib

I didn't even have to think hard to answer your question, and I gave you a bonus answer.

Dr. Bullseye
05-27-20, 13:42
Muslim Contributions to USA

1. Honor killings, better named Honor Murder
2. Support for Terrorism both fighters than have gone over seas and raising of billions of dollars of support
3. Child Brides
4. Slavery
5. Terror attacks in the USA
6. Ilhan Omer and Rashid Talib

I didn't even have to think hard to answer your question, and I gave you a bonus answer.

OK, you got me. I had completely forgotten about Honor Killings.

26 Inf
05-27-20, 14:27
I don't know why they are here. Did anyone wake up this morning and wish for another Muslim immigrant? How about thousands? Just how have Muslims contributed to this country? Give me five examples. OK, just give me one example.

Every American of the Muslim faith who has served in the armed forces works for me as having doing something for America.

Ron3
05-27-20, 15:44
So why can't I jam Motorhead and Metallica at the same volume in the same neighborhood on Saturday evening?

It's too much damn noise. I wouldn't want to hear music, bells, singing, or anything like that 5 times a day.

It this case it just happens to be a thing of Islam. (Which also happens to be a death cult)

SteyrAUG
05-27-20, 21:37
Every American of the Muslim faith who has served in the armed forces works for me as having doing something for America.

Generally agree, but still suspicious of Nadal Hassan types. But yeah, always exceptions and anyone honorably serving is auto exempt from any criticism I may hold and they may go forth and continue to ignore my ramblings.

yoni
05-28-20, 05:16
The problem with Islam, is that you never know when someone is going to go full on fundamentalist.

I know of so many cases, it would take all day to write them down.

But one that high lights the problem perfectly is an Arab worked for an Israeli woman for 15 years around her property doing the things her husband used to do before he died. She would call the Arab and he would come and work. One day he just showed up, but she didn't have any work for him that day. But she invited him in for coffee and some cold water.

After they finished coffee, water and some cookies, he got up and left. He went out around the property and found a length of pipe about the size of a baseball bat. He went back to the house knocked on the door, when she answered he pushed his way in and beat her to death.

When he was arrested, he was asked why he did it? His answer, he felt it his duty as a muslim.

Until we can find a way to detect this behavior before the fact, it will be problematic.