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It's getting a bit hairy out there. Watch the second video...does it sound like 5 rifle shots were capped off and then 3 pistol shots?
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/austin-motorist-shoots-kills-protester-with-rifle-after-crowd-stopped-his-car-video/
It's getting a bit hairy out there. Watch the second video...does it sound like 5 rifle shots were capped off and then 3 pistol shots?
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/austin-motorist-shoots-kills-protester-with-rifle-after-crowd-stopped-his-car-video/
To me it sounds like 5 close pistol shots followed by 3 more distant pistol shots.
From the PD report, it does not look like AK guy shot into the car. With that being said, I still think it was a good shoot for pistol guy. Reason being that the first rule of firearms is never point a gun at anything that you don't intending on shooting. I think that based on AK guys earlier interview in the day that he knew that he could not pull that shit with cops and felt he could get away with it because the people that would have an issue are pussy's. I think that he probably didn't have a round chambered, if he even had any ammo at all and just wanted to scare/intimidate fascist. I am sure that in him mind and many on the left that he never meant no body any harm.
The protesters choice to walk in the streets, and block traffic in order to stick it to the Democrat City council, mayor and police chief. Unfortunatly for AK guy, he chose to put a gun at somebody that he did not intend to shoot. The pistol guy simply opted out.
I think the most telling thing about the whole encounter is that after the car is stopped and he beeps his horn, you see people from every direction rushing the car like white person dropped a N bomb at inner city basket ball court.
F that, drop the hammer
Personally, I am not going to be driving around a conflict area after sunset.
Interview + shooting:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MT5Qes1wlgUE/
Seems to me the car didn't 'drive through' anyone. Pulls up to area, stops, beeps, assholes mob it, 5x rifle shots, mob runs, 3x pistol shots.
titsonritz
07-28-20, 01:45
AK guy never fired a shot, the first five shots are from the pistol guy taking out the perceived threat of AK guy at "low ready" coming toward him, the next three shots are from someone in the crowd cracking off after pistol guy burns off the "X".
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/breaking-update-austin-police-release-driver-shot-killed-antifa-protester-garrett-foster-saturday-night-protest/
So it seems we have a case of armed protestors pointing guns at cars who have the audacity to try and drive down the road or honk, driver fires on armed protestors threatening him/her with a rifle and then other protestors fire on the fleeing vehicle.
So it would seem we finally have the first shots of a shooting war. I think we just went game on.
hotrodder636
07-28-20, 02:41
Honestly kinda scary times with that type of ROE. In a crowd that large , you cannot ID all threats and put yourself in a bad place if you do have to down someone like the driver did in this case.
So it seems we have a case of armed protestors pointing guns at cars who have the audacity to try and drive down the road or honk, driver fires on armed protestors threatening him/her with a rifle and then other protestors fire on the fleeing vehicle.
So it would seem we finally have the first shots of a shooting war. I think we just went game on.
Irony / Fate...here's your sign.
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1287278680817823747?s=20
Unconfirmed but have a source that says it was a soldier from Ft Hood moonlighting as an uber & got called to the area...357 was said to be the sidearm. Unconfirmed reports of the first 5 shots being all sidearm and/or combo of long gun. Both driver & protester who shot at car driving off have been questioned & released pending.
One less socialist...
Allegedly Foster was a Libertarian. He was probably at the protest simping for his quadruple amputee black fiancé and if you watch the interview he gave prior to the shooting, I guess his mouth wrote a check his kalash couldn’t cash.
^^ Yes.
As with firearms, there are rules- in war.
Garrett Foster violated the first rule; "NEVER underestimate your enemy". Good effing riddance.
The first shots are noticeably louder than the second set. It surely sounds like rifle fire followed by pistol fire. Funny how every protest has hundreds of people filming with their phones and no video from that side of the car. The narrative is now "drove into crowd". Video shows he stops, honks his horn, everyone runs to mob the car before gunshots.
Andy
FromMyColdDeadHand
07-28-20, 08:03
BLMer shot at a car breaching the highway protest here in Aurora and hit two other protesters. These guys are either going to get smarter, or they are going to get madder. The rioters have guns and they will use them at the drop of a hat. Now, the BLMers are about 0-7 in gunfights, so far. They will get lucky or better. Hopefully the figure out running around LARPING isn’t paying off.
PracticalRifleman
07-28-20, 09:32
From what I’ve read and seen, the car turned onto the intersection where the protestors were, braked and honked the horn. The mob surrounded the car including the man with the AK variant rifle. He approached with a strong hand grip and a support hand grip at the low ready. In the photo he can be seen chicken-winging with the muzzle orientation unclear. There were audible screams to “back off! Back off!” On the video. Then five quick shots were fired and the crowd is seen dispersing as the car speeds off, then the person videoing on the phone is fleeing and the video shows nothing significant. Three additional quieter shots are heard, but the video is from much further away.
The police detained the driver of the car and a man who was part of the mob who allegedly fired at the car fleeing. The driver of the car was released.
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This seems like a pretty even handed report on the shooting.
https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/what-we-know-so-far-about-the-investigation-into-the-deadly-shooting-at-an-austin-protest/
Sounds like he probably didn't fire the AK, but that he may have pointed it at the driver. If so, that will probably get you shot.
Sounds like he probably didn't fire the AK, but that he may have pointed it at the driver. If so, that will probably get you shot.
I saw a lot of info about this from Matt Christiansen and Eric July (Youngrippa59) This kid was itching for action. If it is an actual peaceful protest for Police reform, I wouldn't expect a person to carry an Ak varient openly. I can see it at a 2A rally, but honestly your in a crowd, surround a car and point a gun at someone in Texas... what did you think was going to happen.
StovePipe_Jammer
07-28-20, 10:50
After the shooting in Provo, where a driver happened upon a random mob of peaceful protesters in the street and was shot for it, I can't blame the driver for doing what he did.
An agitated mob surrounding your vehicle and striking it while one individual walks up to you with a rifle at low ready, I can see how you'd feel it's a "you or him" scenario.
The radical left's propaganda is strong concerning this case and some high profile BLM types are claiming the AK guy was "unarmed" and was shot after a driver tried to "plow" through the crowd. A simple glance at what the PD has put out would confirm they are wrong but the "peaceful unarmed protester gunned down" story has already gone far and wide. A look at the video shows the crowd likely attacked the vehicle for simply honking.
This is becoming a dangerous and vicious cycle. A car on a roadway (where they should be) is viewed as a threat and something to be attacked. The drivers of the vehicles, being attacked largely for no reason, are starting to respond to the attacks with force and it confirms in the radical's minds they are a threat and their attacks are justified.
I fear this is going to not only continue but get worse.
Played stupid game, won stupid prize. Next?
Averageman
07-28-20, 12:14
I saw a lot of info about this from Matt Christiansen and Eric July (Youngrippa59) This kid was itching for action. If it is an actual peaceful protest for Police reform, I wouldn't expect a person to carry an Ak varient openly. I can see it at a 2A rally, but honestly your in a crowd, surround a car and point a gun at someone in Texas... what did you think was going to happen.
People come here to Texas and don't want to understand it, they want cheap land, a bargain on a custom home and then to bitch about everything not being like it was back in ________ . It doesn't work that way.
You come here and I don't care if it is Austin, San Antonio, Houston or Copperas Cove, it's all Texas. Use the same manners with all women, just like you would with your Grandma and respect peoples property and don't touch what aint yours. That's pretty simple and that will get you through 90% of interactions until you learn the rest.
But if you point a weapon, even accidentally or as in such a situation as this, you're very likely to be shot. The guy who shot you is very likely to get "No Billed" and walk away.
That's not racism that's just good common sense and your Dad should have taught you that years ago. Along with, don't stand in the road, don't touch peoples cars
and don't do stupid things in large groups.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irFKjiDapLE
Shawn king steps in here and tells folks Garret was unarmed and peaceful. King then goes on and asks for donations and volunteers.
Here is a still of the unarmed peaceful protester holding his rifle on the driver.63251
Evel Baldgui
07-28-20, 12:42
My first line of defense is avoidance. If there is a protest planned in area X, I avoid it. If a protest is planned on a Saturday in area that I have to drive to, I get there on Friday before craziness develops. If by some unfortunate turn of events, a missed exit, a wrong turn, no prior warning, I happen drive into an area of badness, if I'm the first vehicle and a human blockade forms, I'm driving through, protest on the sidewalk, phuck you, I'm going home. Anti/blm scumbag points a weapon at me, I will respond with severe violence to protect myself. Sorry, I still remember Reginald Denny. If people in the mob assault my car, try to break my windows, that rioter(s) at the window is getting a few rounds, as are his associates. Not being dragged out of a car by some low life socialist scumbags. Mob vs. one person = disparity of force.
WickedWillis
07-28-20, 13:11
Allegedly Foster was a Libertarian. He was probably at the protest simping for his quadruple amputee black fiancé and if you watch the interview he gave prior to the shooting, I guess his mouth wrote a check his kalash couldn’t cash.
"Simping" for his fiance? Come now, child.
Don't point a firearm at something you are not willing to destroy, if after all the conflicting reports are ironed out, he did in fact point it at the shooter in the car.
"Simping" for his fiance? Come now, child.
Don't point a firearm at something you are not willing to destroy, if after all the conflicting reports are ironed out, he did in fact point it at the shooter in the car.
Libertarians don't attend Marxist's rallies just to impress their GF how woke they are. He was no libertarian....
More to the story:
https://www.fox7austin.com/news/fatal-shooting-at-austin-protest-could-take-months-to-get-final-review-by-prosecutors
It was revealed Monday that Foster was being watched by APD because he carried a rifle at protests even though he had a gun permit.
"We've been following this group for the last several weeks, monitoring their protests, making sure it’s done in a safe manner, and this was something no one knew was going to happen. It just popped up in the middle of Congress Ave and it happened.” Said Austin Police Association President Ken Casaday.
Garrett Foster was there with his wheelchair-bound fiancé and his AK-47. "It’s problematic to me when you are whipping up a group of angry protesters to have firearms involved, but again that’s his right, and he had every right to have that firearm,” said Casaday.
"Garrett Foster was on the radar because he would commonly come to the rallies with the AK-47, our individuals who were responsible to monitor people with firearms, he was on the radar already,” said Casaday.
Most recently Foster and his rifle were with a group earlier this month at the home of City Manager Spencer Cronk to protest the police budget.
"He has never caused a problem, never until the other night, was never accused of any wrongdoing with the AK-47, but I find it strange when you show up at people's homes with an AK 47 over your shoulder, what are you really trying to say,” said Casaday.
And its looking like he took it off his shoulder, put it in some sort of firing position (low ready with the business end pointing at the driver), and got himself killed. Foolish, very foolish.
WickedWillis
07-28-20, 14:32
Libertarians don't attend Marxist's rallies just to impress their GF how woke they are. He was no libertarian....
It's easy for the media to call him Libertarian because there is a huge anti-libertarian presence on all social media. ALSO because he cannot be called a conservative because he has a black GF, or a liberal because he is so pro gun. Narratives spinning like tops.
I fear that if this continues, it will be dealt with like two siblings who won't stop fighting: you're both going to get it. Forget who caused what, there will be a huge outcry for gun control. It will even be supported by RINO traitors and of course Dems.
Having said that, it will not deter me from doing what I must to survive an encounter with a shithead mob, consequences be damned.
Libertarians don't attend Marxist's rallies just to impress their GF how woke they are. He was no libertarian....
You'd be surprised how many people who ID as "libertarian" are just leftists who like guns. I've seen it over and over. That and the whole "independent voter" schtick.
Irony / Fate...here's your sign.
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1287278680817823747?s=20
Unconfirmed but have a source that says it was a soldier from Ft Hood moonlighting as an uber & got called to the area...357 was said to be the sidearm. Unconfirmed reports of the first 5 shots being all sidearm and/or combo of long gun. Both driver & protester who shot at car driving off have been questioned & released pending.
How the F did the other armed protestor get released? They were in no way defending themselves or any other innocent party.
You'd be surprised how many people who ID as "libertarian" are just leftists who like guns. I've seen it over and over. That and the whole "independent voter" schtick.
You mean the "I don't know what the fvck I want from one election cycle to the next and I watch ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN" crowd? Yeah, they can get bent, yet they are pandered to every four years.
You'd be surprised how many people who ID as "libertarian" are just leftists who like guns. I've seen it over and over. That and the whole "independent voter" schtick.
Or just want legal weed.
You know why same reason NONE of these people are getting in trouble and so far in places like Seattle and other liberal paradise that pretty much all are being released and records cleared IF they are even arrested so they will have no priors
How the F did the other armed protestor get released? They were in no way defending themselves or any other innocent party.
WickedWillis
07-28-20, 17:32
You'd be surprised how many people who ID as "libertarian" are just leftists who like guns. I've seen it over and over. That and the whole "independent voter" schtick.
I just want my gay married friends to be able to protect their weed with full-auto weapons while living tax free.
LMT Shooter
07-28-20, 17:33
Anyone who would carry a weapon openly in public, under any circumstances, and also get in front of a camera and say that anybody who doesn't like it is a pussy, is probably going to follow the first 2 acts with at least 1 act of stupidity that will justify the use of deadly force against themselves. Calling folks who don't like what you're doing with open carry "pussies" is a clear sign that you are trying to provoke a response.
Averageman
07-29-20, 22:39
Despite overwhelming evidence many on the left are still trying to claim that he didn't have an AK.
Unfortunately the only one in his party who was "unarmed" was his girlfriend.
^^^ I am ashamed at how hard I laughed at this!!! 😂
So here is some official word.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=76&v=G8T8a5iUMIk&feature=emb_logo
Interview + shooting:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MT5Qes1wlgUE/
Seems to me the car didn't 'drive through' anyone. Pulls up to area, stops, beeps, assholes mob it, 5x rifle shots, mob runs, 3x pistol shots.
Interesting video. It has the best view of what went down that I’ve seen thus far. But.....that website appears to be a full on white supremacist site. The end of the video states BLM is linked to Israel. Comments below the video are super racist.
Interesting video. It has the best view of what went down that I’ve seen thus far. But.....that website appears to be a full on white supremacist site. The end of the video states BLM is linked to Israel. Comments below the video are super racist.
Oh noes, the horror, someone typed comments that are mean... Do you also read youtube comments and take them seriously?
Yeah, there's also some "right of center" content pages elsewhere on the site. And...? There's also a bunch of conspiracy theorists, independent news, pro-Trumpers, Q'anon types, and a growing number of established ex-youtubers most here are familiar with. You know, the usual crop of people who post videos on the net.
I posted the video because it was the best one I found; personal opinion about source doesn't matter, intel is intel...
Although this could be an interesting thought experiment as well.
As far as the "linking BLM to Israel", I'm not super up to date on that, but IIRC that's more a recent Antifa thing; funny since those types usually lean more pro-Palestine.
Maybe they're trying to make themselves more appealing to the neo-con crowd, or gain some sort of social-opinion armor by aligning themselves with the jews? Maybe they just have a bunch of Jewish member who want to spend their 'point of personal privilege' publicly? Who knows. Like I said, I haven't gotten into it much.
That being said, if you dig into the BLM/'black community' you're going to find quite a lot of anti-jew sentiment there too, so... I guess it just depends on what skin color you favor having a reaction too.
How the F did the other armed protestor get released? They were in no way defending themselves or any other innocent party.
Yea that's bullshit. Car / driver was leaving the scene.
Demonstrating ON a road = Dumb, should be illegal
Demonstrating ON a road openly carrying a gun = Dumb, should be illegal
Trying to navigate a road blocked by demonstrators = Should be legal, but its dumb
Demonstrating ON a road, with a rifle, and pointing it at drivers = Dumb, should be illegal, should expect to get shot eventually
Keep an eye on Austin tonight...word on the street antifa is in town with plans to disrupt peaceful protests.
Oh noes, the horror, someone typed comments that are mean... Do you also read youtube comments and take them seriously?
Yeah, there's also some "right of center" content pages elsewhere on the site. And...? There's also a bunch of conspiracy theorists, independent news, pro-Trumpers, Q'anon types, and a growing number of established ex-youtubers most here are familiar with. You know, the usual crop of people who post videos on the net.
I posted the video because it was the best one I found; personal opinion about source doesn't matter, intel is intel...
Although this could be an interesting thought experiment as well.
As far as the "linking BLM to Israel", I'm not super up to date on that, but IIRC that's more a recent Antifa thing; funny since those types usually lean more pro-Palestine.
Maybe they're trying to make themselves more appealing to the neo-con crowd, or gain some sort of social-opinion armor by aligning themselves with the jews? Maybe they just have a bunch of Jewish member who want to spend their 'point of personal privilege' publicly? Who knows. Like I said, I haven't gotten into it much.
That being said, if you dig into the BLM/'black community' you're going to find quite a lot of anti-jew sentiment there too, so... I guess it just depends on what skin color you favor having a reaction too.
It’s not about someone typing mean comments. I don’t GAF about mean comments. Aligning at all with actual white supremacists, racists, bigots, antisemites, etc removes ALL credibility.
Averageman
08-02-20, 08:32
It’s not about someone typing mean comments. I don’t GAF about mean comments. Aligning at all with actual white supremacists, racists, bigots, antisemites, etc removes ALL credibility.
The Left has a propensity to find an obvious truth that ruins there credibility then pile on the comments sections to stack up as many White supremacist comments to essentially cancel everything written above.
This is how it works;
A) Did you read this article, it is on point.
B) Yes, but look at the comments, they are very antisemitic and racist, obviously the Author is a White Supremacist.
A) Yes, but it's FBI Crime statistics, how can that be racist?
B) No, really that's racist.
Just another cancel culture tactic to shut down the opposition and it has worked.
You have to look in your own heart and honestly answer the question "Am I racist?" if the answer is "No" go on about your business and ignore the background noise.
Keep an eye on Austin tonight...word on the street antifa is in town with plans to disrupt peaceful protests.
Austin police under attack by armed groups of ‘Antifa’ members. ‘They want to seize the Capital and blow up the PD tonight’
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/austin-police-under-attack-by-well-armed-antifa-plans-to-blow-up-pd/
Grand58742
08-02-20, 09:44
Austin police under attack by armed groups of ‘Antifa’ members. ‘They want to seize the Capital and blow up the PD tonight’
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/austin-police-under-attack-by-well-armed-antifa-plans-to-blow-up-pd/
Do those mouthbreathers not understand that if you approach a vehicle with a raised AK, you're presenting yourself as a threat?
Why in the blue eff are they having a "memorial" to that moron?
Rumor mill reporting austin mayor told APD to stand down knowing they were coming in & chief went over adler's inflated head...bussed in troopers who are not restricted like the local LE on use of cf gas / traditional force & restraint methods. I'm just assuming abbott is watching closely.
My guess is we'll see a few more days like this but next weekend could be a zinger...kudos to all LE involved & maybe Austin will set the example albeit a uber liberal town.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/austin-police-warn-of-armed-rioters-planning-to-access-buildings-reports
Austin police under attack by armed groups of ‘Antifa’ members. ‘They want to seize the Capital and blow up the PD tonight’
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/austin-police-under-attack-by-well-armed-antifa-plans-to-blow-up-pd/
Do those mouthbreathers not understand that if you approach a vehicle with a raised AK, you're presenting yourself as a threat?
Why in the blue eff are they having a "memorial" to that moron?
They aint called mouthbreathers for nothin' man.
Rumor mill reporting austin mayor told APD to stand down knowing they were coming in & chief went over adler's inflated head...bussed in troopers who are not restricted like the local LE on use of cf gas / traditional force & restraint methods. I'm just assuming abbott is watching closely.
My guess is we'll see a few more days like this but next weekend could be a zinger...kudos to all LE involved & maybe Austin will set the example albeit a uber liberal town.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/austin-police-warn-of-armed-rioters-planning-to-access-buildings-reports
Gee, where have we heard that before? It's only the cities run by "progressive" mayors that are seeing cities being trashed and set on fire.
Grand58742
08-02-20, 10:37
My guess is we'll see a few more days like this but next weekend could be a zinger...kudos to all LE involved & maybe Austin will set the example albeit a uber liberal town.
Austin may be an ultra-lib town these days, but we are still dealing with Texas. I'd tend to think out of towners, especially those from out of State, might get a rude wake up call.
Averageman
08-02-20, 10:48
Rumor mill reporting austin mayor told APD to stand down knowing they were coming in & chief went over adler's inflated head...bussed in troopers who are not restricted like the local LE on use of cf gas / traditional force & restraint methods. I'm just assuming abbott is watching closely.
My guess is we'll see a few more days like this but next weekend could be a zinger...kudos to all LE involved & maybe Austin will set the example albeit a uber liberal town.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/austin-police-warn-of-armed-rioters-planning-to-access-buildings-reports
Friday and Saturday the word went out that multiple BLM buses were headed to Austin.
People from Dallas to San Antonio were in convoy to Austin to counter protest. Multiple Facebook posts of course, a couple of calls. They were organizing so that wouldn't happen in Austin.
When we wake up this morning we need to be well aware that had the Chief not made that call, we might have had a bloody Saturday Night in Austin. Art Acevedo wouldn't have had the guts to buck the Mayor, but he would be blaming guns for what went wrong.
So I was talking about this in some other places on the internet that I’ve been hanging out.
Prior to the latest round of protests, Austin PD circulated warnings to owners of high-rise properties in the area that armed individuals may attempt to access the rooftops of buildings overlooking the protest area.
During the protests there were reports of “Antifa snipers” allegedly taking up positions on top of buildings. Weather they were Antifa proper or some affiliated group like SRA doesn’t really matter here. If true then that’s pretty serious. Not because what could have happened in Austin, I don’t think those “Antifa snipers” were likely to shoot anyone, and I wouldn’t be surprised if their handlers gave them strict instructions not to. To me, the Austin protest looks like a great relatively low risk event to use as a real-world “field training exercise” in the deployment of sharpshooters in an urban environment- how to position themselves, how to communicate with elements on the ground etc..
They may be amateurs now but by the time shit actually pops off these people may be pretty effective at this. Because honestly we don’t know who is training them either, there are vets and active duty military who are sympathetic or fully engaged with the ideology of the Feral Left.
It’s way past time to start taking them seriously, and the situation seriously.
Friday and Saturday the word went out that multiple BLM buses were headed to Austin.
People from Dallas to San Antonio were in convoy to Austin to counter protest. Multiple Facebook posts of course, a couple of calls. They were organizing so that wouldn't happen in Austin.
When we wake up this morning we need to be well aware that had the Chief not made that call, we might have had a bloody Saturday Night in Austin. Art Acevedo wouldn't have had the guts to buck the Mayor, but he would be blaming guns for what went wrong.
Did bus loads or convoys actually show up? I see lots of discussion about “xxx-group are organizing to go to y-city”, but I’m not sure I’ve seen instances of it coming true.
Sent from 80ms in the future
Averageman
08-02-20, 12:22
I'm 40 + miles away, my neighbor had to return a vehicle to Austin yesterday, I will ask him when I see him.
The day of the shooting Foster was interviewed. He was asked why he was carrying.
https://youtu.be/gq99anptsmI
It's easy for the media to call him Libertarian because there is a huge anti-libertarian presence on all social media. ALSO because he cannot be called a conservative because he has a black GF, or a liberal because he is so pro gun. Narratives spinning like tops.
The Zimmerman Effect.
titsonritz
04-08-23, 14:26
Apparently, Texas no longer believes in the right to self defense and has seen fit to convict a Texas soldier of murder for it.
Travis County Jury Finds Texas Soldier Guilty of MURDER For Shooting Armed BLM-Antifa Protester in Self Defense During 2020 Riots (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/breaking-travis-county-jury-finds-texas-soldier-guilty-of-murder-for-shooting-armed-blm-antifa-protester-in-self-defense-during-2020-riots/)
titsonritz
04-08-23, 14:53
https://twitter.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1644675611707711489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1644675611707711489%7Ctwgr%5E173dcb92f4bfc7f4172992921843bdc58c634c48%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.northwestfirearms.com%2Fthreads%2Fman-convicted-by-jury-for-defending-himself.446589%2F
BoringGuy45
04-08-23, 14:56
Apparently, Texas no longer believes in the right to self defense and has seen fit to convict a Texas soldier of murder for it.
Travis County Jury Finds Texas Soldier Guilty of MURDER For Shooting Armed BLM-Antifa Protester in Self Defense During 2020 Riots (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/breaking-travis-county-jury-finds-texas-soldier-guilty-of-murder-for-shooting-armed-blm-antifa-protester-in-self-defense-during-2020-riots/)
He was never going to get a fair trial in Austin.
Anyone surprised?
The US government is a crime syndicate.
ChattanoogaPhil
04-08-23, 15:19
“Prior to being fatally shot, Garrett Foster said on camera that the “people who hate us” are “too big of p-ssies to actually do anything about it” when asked why he was carrying a rifle.”
Apparently, he forgot that he wasn’t playing keyboard commando safely at home. Run your mouth, show your ass and raise the muzzle of your firearm in public… don’t be surprised if the last thing ya see is a flash.
From what little I’ve read and my own personal bias I believe the defendant was wrongfully convicted.
Can anyone shed light on this conviction. It seemed pretty straightforward self defense to me. Did the prosecutor do shady shit with the jury or evidence? Did something come out at trial to show it was not self defense?
Haven't heard about this in a while. Then boom, guy gets convicted.
Abbott has announced he is working asap on the pardon.
Abbott has announced he is working asap on the pardon.
Good. And he also needs to push the removal of that Soros-backed DA who is turning Austin into San Fran lite.
Will a pardon allow someone convicted of murder to get a job or own a firearm?
titsonritz
04-08-23, 15:51
Can anyone shed light on this conviction. It seemed pretty straightforward self defense to me. Did the prosecutor do shady shit with the jury or evidence? Did something come out at trial to show it was not self defense?
Haven't heard about this in a while. Then boom, guy gets convicted.
He made the mistake of talking to the cops without his lawyer present...
Daniel Perry's police interview after Garrett Foster's death revealed to jury (https://www.fox7austin.com/news/daniel-perrys-garrett-foster-murder-trial-police-interview)
...and previously made texts stating....
“Might Have to Kill a Few People” (https://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2023-04-07/might-have-to-kill-a-few-people/)
It's mainly because he shot one of the Soros backed DA's BLM goons during a riot...there was also evidence omitted.
Lead detective of Daniel Perry Uber driver murder case, David Fugitt has filed an affidavit claiming Soros-backed DA had him remove over 100 PAGES of exculpatory evidence.
https://mobile.twitter.com/realtoriabrooke/status/1644752390451503111
I have a buddy who is retired APD & he is saying an assistant chief also pressured Lead detective Fuggitt and has since resigned.
Here is a breakdown of events we have on our Tx hunting forum...this is another chap who knows officers familiar with the case:
Like Glen, I know guys that worked this case. It should have been a clear cut self defense case.
Defendant lawfully present where the shooting occurred. ✅
Defendant minding his own business driving downtown Austin, Texas. ✅
Defendant ends up in the middle of a protest. ✅
Defendant’s car is approached by multiple people who start kicking his car. ✅
Defendant is approached by a man with a plate carrier, mask and AK style semi-automatic rifle within about 8 feet. ✅
Defendant is lawfully armed with a .357 revolver. ✅
Defendant believes the man with the rifle begins to raise the rifle at him. ✅
Defendant shoots man with AK. ✅
Defendant drives off and calls 911 once he gets to a safe area. ✅
Austin Police Detectives investigate. ✅
Austin Police Detectives decline to charge the defendant with murder because of a credible claim of self defense. ✅
Former Travis County District Attorney does not indict the defendant. ✅
New District Attorney gets elected chooses to take the case to Grand Jury without a referral from Austin Police. ✅
Lead homicide detective is ordered by the prosecutor to remove 100 slides from his PowerPoint presentation that contain exculpatory evidence. ✅
Defendant is indicted for murder. ✅
Lead homicide detective files sworn affidavit for the defense accusing the prosecutor of witness tampering. ✅
Judge determines no witness tampering occurred. ✅
Defendant goes to trial for murder. ✅
Prosecutor does not call the lead homicide detective to testify. ✅
Several police officers testify for the defense they would have taken the actions of the deceased as a threat. ✅
Lead homicide detective is the key witness for the defense. ✅
Prosecutor argues in closing that the defendant has a consciousness of guilt because he “took great lengths to assert a claim of self-defense.”✅
Defendant convicted of murder after 16 hours of deliberations. ✅
Bottom line. Lawful self-defense does not exist in Travis County, Texas.
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FromMyColdDeadHand
04-08-23, 17:09
It would be interesting to find out who in Soros org came up with the DA strategy. Frankly, its brilliant in how it found a choke point that has to have a very high ROI. 'Cheap' elections and who cares what laws get passed if you control who wields the ability to criminally charge people. Add in juries in big cities going left and who cares if the govt hands out guns and ammo, if you use them for defense, you are screwed. Use illegally owned guns to kill, murder, and steal- that isn't a problem.
Can anyone shed light on this conviction. It seemed pretty straightforward self defense to me. Did the prosecutor do shady shit with the jury or evidence? Did something come out at trial to show it was not self defense?
Haven't heard about this in a while. Then boom, guy gets convicted.
How a Soros-funded District Attorney overrode law enforcement to prosecute an innocent man.
https://mikecernovich.substack.com/p/self-defense-is-illegal-in-texas
Detectives concluded Daniel Perry acted in self-defense. That should have been the end of the case.
Until a prosecutor supported by George Soros finally found a case worth prosecuting.
Travis County DA Jose Garza was elected to represent Austin Texas due to funding by George Soros.
Garza’s behavior was so irregulate that it prompted a report by a law enforcement that accused Garza of tampering with a grand jury.
Austin police detective accuses Travis County DA of ‘criminal behavior’ in case against Sgt. Daniel Perry
A homicide investigator with the Austin Police Department has accused the Travis County District Attorney of forcing him to alter his testimony to a grand jury in the case against a man accused of shooting and killing an Austin protester.
In a sworn affidavit, Detective David Fugitt wrote, “I firmly believe the District Attorney’s Office, acting under the authority of José P. Garza, tampered with me as a witness.” However, a district judge reviewing these claims said he didn’t see any behavior in this case rising to the level of criminal conduct by the D.A.
This DA needs to go to prison for the rest of his life.
He made the mistake of talking to the cops without his lawyer present...
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And those same cops cleared him and called it a good shoot...
BoringGuy45
04-08-23, 17:18
It will suck and take awhile, but this conviction is likely to be overturned.
It will suck and take awhile, but this conviction is likely to be overturned.
Yeah, but the AG of Texas needs to put that shitbag prosecutor in prison over this crap.
BoringGuy45
04-08-23, 17:33
Yeah, but the AG of Texas needs to put that shitbag prosecutor in prison over this crap.
Agreed. If the AG gets away with this and this guy is sent to prison and nothing is done, it could be a spark that lights the powder keg. It would certainly indicate that we're at the "nothing left to lose" phase. But even if this all gets set right, the damage may already be done...
Edited to Add:
Abbott is already working on a pardon:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/greg-abbott-working-swiftly-pardon-army-sergeant-convicted-murder-black-lives-matter-riot
ChattanoogaPhil
04-08-23, 18:41
Sounds like the Texas AG has it right.
“Self-defense is a God-given right, not a crime. Unfortunately, the Soros-backed DA in Travis County cares more about the radical agenda of dangerous Antifa and BLM mobs than justice," Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said in a statement to Fox News Digital following the Perry verdict.“
Thank God it's in a state controlled largely by conservatives. If he had been convicted in some shitbag libtard state I highly doubt the governor would be looking to pardon him.
And those same cops cleared him and called it a good shoot...
Which is a good example of why you have a lawyer present. The cops can't clear you of a crime if a DA comes along who wants to prosecute. Hope it turns out well for him.
...and previously made texts stating....
“Might Have to Kill a Few People” (https://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2023-04-07/might-have-to-kill-a-few-people/)
Ah, so he's in M4C GD then? ;)
Seriously though, half of M4C is screwed if their posts ever get scrutinized in a case like this. Quite possibly myself included. It ain't just your mouth that can get you into trouble, gotta watch your fingers too. Weaponized prosecution is a thing now. I should watch myself better, but I'm too damn lazy to care. I doubt it will ever be an issue for me, but I hope I never have to find out.
titsonritz
04-10-23, 11:42
And those same cops cleared him and called it a good shoot...
Which the DA ignored and they used the recording against him anyway. My bet is if he had a lawyer present it would have been a different story.
Always a must watch YT channel, The Armed Attorneys comment on the case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rzOeEGNGOE
I understand that per a detective the DA withheld exculpatory evidence. If so that is means for disbarment In Texas (I think every state).
This sounds eerily like the Duke Lacrosse case: PD investigates, PD finds no legal case, PD recommends no charges, DA decides to charge, DA hides evidence that would clear defendants, case is overturned on appeal, DA is found guilty of hiding evidence, DA is disbarred.
I understand that per a detective the DA withheld exculpatory evidence. If so that is means for disbarment In Texas (I think every state).
This sounds eerily like the Duke Lacrosse case: PD investigates, PD finds no legal case, PD recommends no charges, DA decides to charge, DA hides evidence that would clear defendants, case is overturned on appeal, DA is found guilty of hiding evidence, DA is disbarred.
DA's and judges seem to enjoy total immunity and know their chances of being disbarred, much less actually going to prison for intentionally and knowingly ruining a person life is very low.
Sidneyious
04-11-23, 11:13
Always a must watch YT channel, The Armed Attorneys comment on the case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rzOeEGNGOEI tried watching him, then I realized he just uses other people's work to get views.
I tried watching him, then I realized he just uses other people's work to get views.
Then you didn't watch it as there's no "him" but 2-3 attorneys who talk about the laws as it applies to 2A cases, many of which are original the them. Not seen any other YT channel they used anyone else work.
DA's and judges seem to enjoy total immunity and know their chances of being disbarred, much less actually going to prison for intentionally and knowingly ruining a person life is very low.
Didn't work out so well for Mike Nifong (Duke lacrosse). I agree, rarely happens. Nifong is a 'n' of 1.
Didn't work out so well for Mike Nifong (Duke lacrosse). I agree, rarely happens. Nifong is a 'n' of 1.
If there's no repercussions the other 99.9% of the time, and there's not, DA's and judges will continue on their merry path of doing what ever they want to win the case, without fear of disbarment. That part needs to change.
FromMyColdDeadHand
04-11-23, 14:26
What happened to Little Finger Prosecutor in Kensoha and his retard side-kick? Are they in prison yet, disbarred? Admoished? Sent to bed with out dessert???? That judge was good and mad about it and what happened???
titsonritz
04-11-23, 21:51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWeRGLSrHv0
I'm not a fan of Tucker, but he's right. The lesson here is that you are not allowed to defend yourself against BLM rioters. Rittenhouse, the McCloskey's in St. Louis, and now Sgt. Perry. The state can't allow people to fight back against their BLM/Antifa proxies, as that doesn't allow for the level of chaos the state wants, and discourages more of their proxies from continuing the fight. I'm glad that Abbot is looking at pardoning him, but that's honestly the least that should happen, and ignores the main problem here.
john armond
04-13-23, 10:15
Looks like some are not happy with the pardon.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/juror-texas-governor-s-rush-to-pardon-shooter-a-travesty/ar-AA19MYkC?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ae1e924c27274bd88a506c25ed3f54f5&ei=9
This article's description of the incident is a little jaded:
"The encounter leading up to the shooting began when Perry turned onto a street and into one of the demonstrations that swept the country after Minneapolis police killed of George Floyd.
In video that was streamed live on Facebook, a car can be heard honking amid the downtown crowd. Then, several shots ring out, and protesters begin screaming and scattering."
They also said the witnesses said the rifle was never raised and Perry could have simply driven away. If I remember correctly doesn't the video show people on all sides of the car and the guy raising the muzzle of his rifle with the butt near his shoulder/head area? Just because it wasn't fully raised to firing position doesn't mean it wasn't still a threat. I mean, as the article states "Foster was at least a foot away from Perry's car." so, no threat of a bullet fired from a rifle traveling at least a foot. And how was he supposed to just drive off with people all around.
Clown world.
john armond
04-13-23, 10:16
Delete double.
Looks like some are not happy with the pardon.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/juror-texas-governor-s-rush-to-pardon-shooter-a-travesty/ar-AA19MYkC?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ae1e924c27274bd88a506c25ed3f54f5&ei=9
This article's description of the incident is a little jaded:
"The encounter leading up to the shooting began when Perry turned onto a street and into one of the demonstrations that swept the country after Minneapolis police killed of George Floyd.
In video that was streamed live on Facebook, a car can be heard honking amid the downtown crowd. Then, several shots ring out, and protesters begin screaming and scattering."
They also said the witnesses said the rifle was never raised and Perry could have simply driven away. If I remember correctly doesn't the video show people on all sides of the car and the guy raising the muzzle of his rifle with the butt near his shoulder/head area? Just because it wasn't fully raised to firing position doesn't mean it wasn't still a threat. I mean, as the article states "Foster was at least a foot away from Perry's car." so, no threat of a bullet fired from a rifle traveling at least a foot. And how was he supposed to just drive off with people all around.
Clown world.
Driving through the crowd would have empowered the decedent to shoot him, presumably without the DA opposing it.
From that article:
“I just thought it was an egregious overreach of power,” Dowell said. “It's undermining due process. It's undermining democracy. I was upset, honestly.”
Man, they really like the danger/threat/undermining democracy talking point don't they. We've heard damn near every variation of it possible the last several years. Just waiting for them to go full clown and say "allowing multiple parties to run in elections is a threat to our democracy."
From that article:
Man, they really like the danger/threat/undermining democracy talking point don't they. We've heard damn near every variation of it possible the last several years. Just waiting for them to go full clown and say "allowing multiple parties to run in elections is a threat to our democracy."
What might be equally as dangerous is what they don’t see as a “threat to democracy”: angry mobs of lunatics protesting outside SCOTUS justices’ houses to influence decisions; angry mobs outside of courtroom of the Chauvin trial, daring those inside to make the “wrong” decision; the mass censorship of an opposing side of the political aisle running up to an election; flooding the country wilh an unknown number of ballots before an election, with no way to track the legitimacy of said vote; changing state voting laws, at the last minute, without going through the legal procedure set in place; wanting borders completely unsecured; electing officials whose sole campaign promise of note is to “get the other side’s guy” locked up; and even calling everything that doesn’t align with one very narrow and insane viewpoint “misinformation” or “a threat to our democracy.”
From that article:
Man, they really like the danger/threat/undermining democracy talking point don't they. We've heard damn near every variation of it possible the last several years. Just waiting for them to go full clown and say "allowing multiple parties to run in elections is a threat to our democracy."
What might be equally as dangerous is what they don’t see as a “threat to democracy”: angry mobs of lunatics protesting outside SCOTUS justices’ houses to influence decisions; angry mobs outside of courtroom of the Chauvin trial, daring those inside to make the “wrong” decision; the mass censorship of an opposing side of the political aisle running up to an election; flooding the country wilh an unknown number of ballots before an election, with no way to track the legitimacy of said vote; changing state voting laws, at the last minute, without going through the legal procedure set in place; wanting borders completely unsecured; electing officials whose sole campaign promise of note is to “get the other side’s guy” locked up; and even calling everything that doesn’t align with one very narrow and insane viewpoint “misinformation” or “a threat to our democracy.”
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