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Gtorq21
07-28-20, 22:47
Hey guys currently have an eotech 552. Love it no complaints. Starting to become interested in lpvo. I shoot most the time anywhere from 100 to 200yds. What I look for in an optic is illumination, durability and situational use (home defense,shtf). You guys recommend I stick with the eotech or is there a lpvo for around $600 you'd recommend? Like the idea of having available magnification

IKnowNotEverything
07-28-20, 22:56
https://dsgarms.com/magnified-optics-kt-vorpst-1605-sm30g2

It doesn’t sound like you’re in a hurry but at that budget this is the best deal I have seen going. I’m not sure how often they restock but I’d say it is worth giving them a call.

JediGuy
07-28-20, 22:58
Can you swing two optics, at least for a little while? See whether you really like the LPVO, switch off with the Eotech depending on your needs.

If so, there have been several deals recently on reputable optics in that range, including Trijicon Accupowers and Vortex PST’s.

MC_Oper8or
07-29-20, 00:07
Steiner p4xi from B&H. $649


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wetidlerjr
07-29-20, 01:23
Hey guys currently have an eotech 552. Love it no complaints. Starting to become interested in lpvo. I shoot most the time anywhere from 100 to 200yds. What I look for in an optic is illumination, durability and situational use (home defense,shtf). You guys recommend I stick with the eotech or is there a lpvo for around $600 you'd recommend? Like the idea of having available magnification
You might want to go here: Optics & Mounts (https://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?13-Optics-amp-Mounts)

vicious_cb
07-29-20, 01:45
You might want to go here: Optics & Mounts (https://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?13-Optics-amp-Mounts)

I remember a time where I lurked forums for weeks before making a first post.

titsonritz
07-29-20, 03:33
You might want to go here: Optics & Mounts (https://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?13-Optics-amp-Mounts)

My guess is there just might a thread or two on this vary subject.

tim808
07-29-20, 03:35
mr gng gave a good review of the nikon black 1000 1-4x24. I think nikon is getting out of scopes and the price had dropped to below $200 pre COVID-19.

Post COVID-19 and BLM, they are now about 330.

R0CKETMAN
07-29-20, 05:43
HD= RDS always on

I’ve been shooting the Vortex Razor 1-6 weekly for the last few months. Times are coming down on 1x and the edge to edge FOV is great. The dot is incredibly daylight bright.

Gtorq21
07-29-20, 07:54
Appreciate input. Sorry for posting in incorrect thread. Gonna keep the eotech and get an lpvo aswell. More than likely looking at vortex viper or the p4xi. Seem like best optics in my budget

GTF425
07-29-20, 08:08
The P4xi punches WAY above its class. I'd buy another one in a heart beat if I was looking for another LPVO.

Wake27
07-29-20, 08:22
The P4xi punches WAY above its class. I'd buy another one in a heart beat if I was looking for another LPVO.

I agreed until they raised the price. Now it’s in Viper 1-6 territory so I’m not sure it’s as much of the easy answer that it used to be.


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markm
07-29-20, 08:25
Eotech is fine. I don't reach for magnification until I get to about 500 yards.... 400 maybe if the target is smaller than IPSC.

GTF425
07-29-20, 08:35
I agreed until they raised the price. Now it’s in Viper 1-6 territory so I’m not sure it’s as much of the easy answer that it used to be.


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I just checked MSRP; wow. I got mine for ~$450 on eBay probably a year ago, and it was a killer value at that point.

$650 isn't bad, but like you said- that's Viper PST 1-6 territory. Add another $150 and you can score non-E 1-6 Razors if you watch EEs on forums.

GTF425
07-29-20, 08:39
Can you swing two optics, at least for a little while? See whether you really like the LPVO, switch off with the Eotech depending on your needs.

If so, there have been several deals recently on reputable optics in that range, including Trijicon Accupowers and Vortex PST’s.

This is actually really sound advice. Try them and compare with a shot timer, scored courses of fire, etc. You may find that you can't go back to an RDS, or vice versa- that you hate magnified optics.

SA80Dan
07-29-20, 13:27
I just checked MSRP; wow. I got mine for ~$450 on eBay probably a year ago, and it was a killer value at that point.

$650 isn't bad, but like you said- that's Viper PST 1-6 territory. Add another $150 and you can score non-E 1-6 Razors if you watch EEs on forums.

Yeah it does seem to have gone the other way nowadays - seems you are more likely to find a Viper 1-6 on deal than the Steiner (I mentioned on another thread I just picked up an open box PST for 489 bucks).

I guess where the Steiner scores some points is that it is considerably lighter...but of course you trade off the extra zoom on the PST.

Wake27
07-29-20, 20:40
I just checked MSRP; wow. I got mine for ~$450 on eBay probably a year ago, and it was a killer value at that point.

$650 isn't bad, but like you said- that's Viper PST 1-6 territory. Add another $150 and you can score non-E 1-6 Razors if you watch EEs on forums.

Yeah I got mine lightly used a few years ago in an ADM mount for $550 I think. That was a fantastic value. Now like was said above, you're looking at about the same price for lighter weight or 2x extra zoom.

scooter22
07-29-20, 20:55
Eotech is fine. I don't reach for magnification until I get to about 500 yards.... 400 maybe if the target is smaller than IPSC.

I always respect your opinion, but how can you ID a threat beyond 100 without some time of mag?

Or are you just talking about banging known steel targets at known distance?

AndyLate
07-29-20, 23:18
mr gng gave a good review of the nikon black 1000 1-4x24. I think nikon is getting out of scopes and the price had dropped to below $200 pre COVID-19.

Post COVID-19 and BLM, they are now about 330.

I picked up a Nikon Black 1-4 at the $200ish price and use it on a 22 lr upper. It's a hell of a scope at $200; good glass, fairly useful reticle, 1X is 1X or very close, and good eyebox. It is not bright enough to replace a red dot in the day. Turrets are capped, but the caps are very tall.

I don't know if I would be a fan at $330.

Andy

vicious_cb
07-30-20, 00:52
I always respect your opinion, but how can you ID a threat beyond 100 without some time of mag?

Or are you just talking about banging known steel targets at known distance?

Everyone has their silo.