AFAB

[voiceofreason]

I've used multiple comps and flash hiders on ARs both on my guns and friends' guns.

I'm not a fan of concussion toward the shooter, it's stupid and any minimal reduction in recoil and accuracy gain is negated by hot gas blasted back toward you. Just my opinion.

Read about the AFAB, but nobody near me had one. So I TOFF and picked one up figuring I'd sell it after finding out it's "meh".

Except it's not. It's an excellent muzzle device and lives up to it's rep.


It's not much louder than an A2, which I shot with it back to back. The side concussion is definitely greater than an A2, but nothing the shooter feels.

No clue on flash reduction as 1. I don't care about flash reduction for my purposes 2. I only shoot during the day as I haven't done a night shoot in over a decade with ARs. Some of the shootout flash hider tests put it at just a bit more than the A2, but you'll have to trust them on it as I haven't done any testing myself for flash.

Recoil management is where it gets interesting. Completely flat with both .223 bunnyfart and 5.56 NATO rounds. Not a downward push like the older comps and not Left/Right issues at all. The muzzle just sits where you left it each time after pulling the trigger. Makes me wonder if the EFAB would be good on a bolt gun (I prefer cans on bolt guns).

It's literally just sitting there after firing with the red dot in the same place I left it after each shot (offhand 20 yards, dinner plate sized target). The muzzle stability with this muzzle device is better for my technique/gun than any other MD I've used before. Yes, other MDs do noticeably better at recoil reduction but the non-moving flat shooting, not wandering muzzle after each shot seals the deal for me with this MD.

For anyone that wants basically an A2 birdcage that is one ounce heavier and 1/3" longer but offers good recoil reduction and GREAT muzzle stability, this is a great choice. I do not work and am not associated with PA. I got it through Brownells (because Midway CS has burned me twice) and installed using their recommended Accuracy-washer system which works well.

Sorry no pics, too hot to stop and take pics, wasn't expecting to post but after 2 great range trips (one time with an A2, one time by itself) I wanted to share.

[BufordTJustice]

I’ve owned them in the past and had identical findings.

I begged PA to make a can mount but they said they were “developing their own mount” about five years ago.

I found that they ran with the KAC MAMS for 5.56, but with less blast (both to the shooter and to the sides).

I actually found flash at night to be equal or better than an A2 in a 16” barrel with 193.

Side blast was basically like an A2 in the next sheer barrel length for adjacent shooters. So an AFAB in a 16” was like an A2 on a 14.5”.


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[gaijin]

I run a few as well.
They are "rated" by P.A. for barrels as short as 10.5", I run on a couple 11.5's. Shooting a comp of any type is usually a miserable experience on a 14.5" or shorter.

Pretty efficient for a hybrid and your team members won't hate you.

[scooter22]

I’ve owned them in the past and had identical findings.

I begged PA to make a can mount but they said they were “developing their own mount” about five years ago.

I found that they ran with the KAC MAMS for 5.56, but with less blast (both to the shooter and to the sides).

I actually found flash at night to be equal or better than an A2 in a 16” barrel with 193.

Side blast was basically like an A2 in the next sheer barrel length for adjacent shooters. So an AFAB in a 16” was like an A2 on a 14.5”.


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Did you replace them with suppressor mounts?

[BufordTJustice]

Did you replace them with suppressor mounts?

Yep. ASR mounts, to be specific.

I literally begged them to let me help them develop an ASR mount. But no.

So I’m rocking a Noveske Branded BE Meyers ASR-249 on my main 16” and SiCo Trifecta flash hiders on everything else. Only exception is my 11.5” with the SpecWar 556.... I never take that can off except to re apply anti-seize on the threads, lol. So it wears a SiCo brake to act as a first blast baffle.


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[titsonritz]

I don't have an AFAB but I do have an EFAB and think it is an awesome muzzle device. Definitely performs as advertised, flash suppression is on par with a standard A2, blast is slightly more but nothing to get in a twist about, it has better recoil management and helps keep the muzzle down. My understanding is the AFAB is pretty close to the same performance.

[BufordTJustice]

I don't have an AFAB but I do have an EFAB and think it is an awesome muzzle device. Definitely performs as advertised, flash suppression is on par with a standard A2, blast is slightly more but nothing to get in a twist about, it has better recoil management and helps keep the muzzle down. My understanding is the AFAB is pretty close to the same performance.

I’ve owned both in the past. I would say that’s accurate.

I wouldn’t spend the extra for the EFAB unless I was using in a barrel shorter than 16”.


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[Tigereye]

So, I've got an AFAB on a SR15 w/ 16" a really like it. I was planning on doing a p/w on the 14.5" mod 2 with an AFAB. What is the difference in the AFAB and EFAB that makes one better than the other on the 14.5? Thanks

[Diamondback]

Have an AFAB originally bought for my 16" bench monster, diverted it to my Mk 18, looking for a good price on an EFAB. Since both blast and flash are equal "primary concerns" for me in Low Light Home D--I accept that I'm probably gonna go deaf but would rather not be flashblinded too!--I'm looking at putting a blast shield around it, thinking that should help redirect the worst of both.

For anybody who's got both, would a "Shielded EFAB/AFAB" or a BRT Covert Comp linear be a better choice?

[ColtSeavers]

Have an AFAB originally bought for my 16" bench monster, diverted it to my Mk 18, looking for a good price on an EFAB. Since both blast and flash are equal "primary concerns" for me in Low Light Home D--I accept that I'm probably gonna go deaf but would rather not be flashblinded too!--I'm looking at putting a blast shield around it, thinking that should help redirect the worst of both.

For anybody who's got both, would a "Shielded EFAB/AFAB" or a BRT Covert Comp linear be a better choice?

Blast shields conteract flash hiding as they arrest the rapid dissipation of combustible gasses.
Linear comps don't do sh*t when indoors, in addition to (what I consider) nothing for flash and muzzle control.
Leave it (EFAB/AFAB/Whatever you get) alone and let it do what it's supposed to.
Or get a suppressor.

[BufordTJustice]

So, I've got an AFAB on a SR15 w/ 16" a really like it. I was planning on doing a p/w on the 14.5" mod 2 with an AFAB. What is the difference in the AFAB and EFAB that makes one better than the other on the 14.5? Thanks

EFAB is better at flash suppression in shorter barrels.

For 16” and longer, just get the AFAB.


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[Tigereye]

Sounds like a plan.
Thanks Buford

[gaijin]

^^ Absolutely.
Linear comp/"blast shield" would negate the compensating effect of an EFAB.

[SteveL]

I've been running an AFAB on one of my 16" guns for a while. My experience with it is the same as the OP's, but I did have an individual next to me on the line in a class once who complained of the blast to the side. Honestly I always thought he was just being a bitch though. Anyway, the only reason I don't have them on all my guns is because they don't make a version that's keymo compatible.