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TomMcC
08-08-20, 12:18
Saw this originally (I think) on TTAG. Good shooting, but the tactics seem pretty bad. Then again, I wasn't there facing the evil doer with the knives. Should the copper have gone to the gun instead of the Taser? Should he have used his cruiser as cover?

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=kHw9Z_1596732067

Pappabear
08-08-20, 12:32
That POS earned the lead dinner he got. Copper Tased him first then transitioned to handgun. Copper missed the first X shots before he almost got himself stabbed. Glad that young copper finally hit the POS.

But this is how the common criminal in Chicago thinks, he wont shoot me bc we are defunded these cops. Good guys won this disater.

PB

MegademiC
08-08-20, 12:33
Seems like he/they knew him, and hated to have to shoot him.

Looks as if he did ok, went to the gun pretty quick while running, once the Taser failed He also got effective hits while sprinting.

ColtSeavers
08-08-20, 12:49
Damn Scooby Doo, nice footwork! Seems like they lost a frequent flyer.

TomMcC
08-08-20, 12:57
Seems like he/they knew him, and hated to have to shoot him.

Looks as if he did ok, went to the gun pretty quick while running, once the Taser failed He also got effective hits while sprinting.

Yes, they seem to have known his name. Maybe the neighborhood character.

Pappabear
08-08-20, 13:13
Dead on sprint and shooting backwards. Tuff sitch.

PB

OH58D
08-08-20, 13:56
Glad I'm not LE. Talk about duty to retreat. That officer did his best to avoid lethal force. If it was me, anyone approaching me with a knife in a threatening manner and my sidearm would already be out and at the ready. Never let them get that close - just shoot. This is the MO of an armed Citizen who doesn't have the same rules of engagement.

mrbieler
08-08-20, 16:22
Based on how he spoke with the guy as he got out of his car, and it sounded like his backup knew the guys name too, this appears to be just one of the thousands of metal health guys that shouldn't be on the street that the police are forced to deal with because the politicians won't.

The only thing I can think of with the benefit of hindsight and getting to watch the camera angles, is maybe use the cruiser as a barrier to create space instead of trying to outrun him. Glad he wasn't hurt.

C-grunt
08-08-20, 16:36
Ive had a few "regulars" over the years that would walk around with knives, or poles, or whatever and people would call on them. Ive always been able to talk with them and resolve the situation peacefully. Over time they would either get help, get run over by a car, OD, get murdered, or end up in prison for a myriad of reasons.

While you always need to be cautious around those people, how this officer approached the situation isn't unusual to me.

FromMyColdDeadHand
08-08-20, 16:53
Dead on sprint and shooting backwards. Tuff sitch.

PB

You don't practice that? Of course with your support hand shooting?

Kudos to the cop for going above and beyond to try to not have to kill that guy. I bet his wife isn't too happy about it.

Should have sent one of those new social worker ninjas that are going to replace cops.... right.

Vic79
08-08-20, 17:17
I don’t know what the hell took him so long. That dude should’ve been plugged way earlier than that.

Pappabear
08-08-20, 20:22
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Should have sent one of those new social worker ninjas that are going to replace cops.... right.[/QUOTE]

That social worker would have gazed in his eyes and put him into a tranquil state through harmonious thoughts about being a good boy.

PB

TomMcC
08-08-20, 20:27
That social worker would have gazed in his eyes and put him into a tranquil state through harmonious thoughts about being a good boy.

PB

And then clubbed him with his "what to do when dealing with a knife wielding mentally disturbed street person" manual and then make a run for it.

yoni
08-09-20, 05:23
The officer should never had gone with taser, just straight to gun. He risked his life in the end for nothing, he eventually had to do the correct response to end the threat.