View Full Version : Breaking Point, War for Democracy in Ukraine...You should watch...
If you want an idea of what things could look like before long.....
Its on Prime...and some other outlets as well.
If you want an idea of what things could look like before long.....
Its on Prime...and some other outlets as well.
War for Democracy in Ukraine and war for communism in the United States.
There is a line in the film where a Ukrainian politician talks about the election and he very earnestly looks at the camera and says, "They lied and everyone knew they lied" talking about their election commission....
Now, whether the election commission did in fact lie (and the numbers of people in the streets and supporting the war would suggest they did) didn't matter. The people BELIEVED they had lied and simply decided they would not stand for it. In their minds, there was no question it was a lie-- and one they were willing to die to refute.....
Then, the people took to the streets and ousted the Russian puppet leader. A week later the Russians invade Crimea and the war is on.
Here, we don't have a foreign power to invade, we don't need one, whoever nominally controls the government may end up controlling the military or some portion of it....
I can see a very similar scenario right here....
MikhailBarracuda91
08-11-20, 20:45
I watched it. It was pretty good
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I watched it. It was pretty good
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It was. If you want "the other side" of the coin, suggest you watch "A Snipers War". Same conflict but polar opposite views. They follow a Serbian volunteer sniper fighting for the Russians in Ukraine. The guy is MILITANTLY anti Nato, anti US etc....(Honestly, they try to humanize him etc...and he seems like a decent enough human being)......HE TOO BELIEVES very strongly in his cause and motivations. THIS to me, is what suggests trouble for our own situation. The lines are drawn and people are far less willing every day to cross over, they are pretty unwavering in their beliefs of righteousness. That only leads to one place- an un willingness to accept rule by "the other" (Who will likely rule in a punitive way, because, well, they won and you're evil) and a willingness to go to guns to prevent it.
F Russia and Putin. They are just the latest in a long line that wants to take what doesn't belong to them.
Having said that the first capital of Russia was if I remember correctly Kiev.
So it has a long twisted history. But Russia and Putin will do more to hurt the USA than the Ukraine, so EFF them
But well done movie
It was. If you want "the other side" of the coin, suggest you watch "A Snipers War". Same conflict but polar opposite views. They follow a Serbian volunteer sniper fighting for the Russians in Ukraine. The guy is MILITANTLY anti Nato, anti US etc....(Honestly, they try to humanize him etc...and he seems like a decent enough human being)......HE TOO BELIEVES very strongly in his cause and motivations. THIS to me, is what suggests trouble for our own situation. The lines are drawn and people are far less willing every day to cross over, they are pretty unwavering in their beliefs of righteousness. That only leads to one place- an un willingness to accept rule by "the other" (Who will likely rule in a punitive way, because, well, they won and you're evil) and a willingness to go to guns to prevent it.
We usually strongly believe our internal propaganda to the point we can kill others because of it. Hitler never work up one morning and said “Mein Gott! What have I’ve done! I am evil!” He slept well, or at least, wasn’t worried about the Jews, Gypsies, commies, or homos.
MikhailBarracuda91
08-13-20, 18:08
It was. If you want "the other side" of the coin, suggest you watch "A Snipers War". Same conflict but polar opposite views. They follow a Serbian volunteer sniper fighting for the Russians in Ukraine. The guy is MILITANTLY anti Nato, anti US etc....(Honestly, they try to humanize him etc...and he seems like a decent enough human being)......HE TOO BELIEVES very strongly in his cause and motivations. THIS to me, is what suggests trouble for our own situation. The lines are drawn and people are far less willing every day to cross over, they are pretty unwavering in their beliefs of righteousness. That only leads to one place- an un willingness to accept rule by "the other" (Who will likely rule in a punitive way, because, well, they won and you're evil) and a willingness to go to guns to prevent it.I come from a foreign family. I am American, but my family is Ukrainian. I know all too well the feelings they have towards Russia.
The United States is in many ways the new Rome, but much improved. I believe if a conflict were to happen on American soil, it would strengthen the bond between our people. We have it SO good in the USA that people are bored. Some people are so bored/spoiled that they actually desire conflict or civil unrest.
Well, if that indeed were to happen I think those people would deeply regret it, and wish that things were peaceful once again. I mean what is the last generation that had a GENUINE concern for the American way of life?? It has to go back to WW2.
The quote originates from – Those Who Remain by G. Michael Hopf
Hard times create strong men.
Strong men create good times.
Good times create weak men.
Weak men create hard times.
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I am 40 minutes into A Snipers War, the only reason I am going to watch it to the end is I am hoping this Serbian jack ass get;s killed. He is not a trained sniper, he supports communism, as do the rebels it's seems.
Eff Russia and communism.
I am 40 minutes into A Snipers War, the only reason I am going to watch it to the end is I am hoping this Serbian jack ass get;s killed. He is not a trained sniper, he supports communism, as do the rebels it's seems.
Eff Russia and communism.
Yea, to me the value in it is seeing the EXACT same set of circumstances- from two WILDLY differing perspectives, and how both sides are completely convinced they are right and that it's perfectly ok to kill the shit out of "the other guy". That is where WE ARE GOING RIGHT HERE IN RIVER CITY, USA! People can try to deny it but I think it's getting harder all the time, they almost have to be actively trying to ignore it.
If the USA breaks down into violence, it will be bloody.
But unless the left has people with very deep pockets funding gun buying they have a long way to parity.
Having guns is not the end all. I would say at least 80% of vets, both military and police are conservative. The question then becomes where will the police side, but with the defund the police movement coming from the left. I think once the mayors and city council members that are liberal are assassinated the police will side with the conservatives.
So my assessment still holds with if the USA sinks into violence, it will be very bloody but short lived.
Unless the Chicoms and Russians have been smuggling in weapons and people to fight for the left.
BrigandTwoFour
08-14-20, 11:01
If the USA breaks down into violence, it will be bloody.
But unless the left has people with very deep pockets funding gun buying they have a long way to parity.
Having guns is not the end all. I would say at least 80% of vets, both military and police are conservative. The question then becomes where will the police side, but with the defund the police movement coming from the left. I think once the mayors and city council members that are liberal are assassinated the police will side with the conservatives.
So my assessment still holds with if the USA sinks into violence, it will be very bloody but short lived.
Unless the Chicoms and Russians have been smuggling in weapons and people to fight for the left.
Well...I mean...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leland_Yee
Leland Yin Yee is a convicted felon and former Democratic California State Senator for District 8, which when he was elected, covered parts of San Francisco and the Peninsula. In 2015, Yee pleaded guilty to felony racketeering charges for money laundering, public corruption, gun trafficking and bribery.
Yee was a vocal advocate for gun control, both before and while engaged in gun running... In 2006 Yee was named to the Gun Violence Prevention Honor Roll by the Brady Campaign for his efforts that included co-authoring a first-in-the-nation bill to require new semiautomatic handguns be equipped with ballistics identification technology known as micro-stamping.In May 2012, together with Kevin de León, Yee proposed legislation to ban any semi-automatic rifle that used a bullet button that makes the rifle a "fixed magazine rifle." SB 249 would ban conversion kits and rifles. According to his press release, "Absent this bill, California's assault weapon ban is significantly weakened. For the safety of the general public, we must close this loophole."
Yee is quoted as saying, "It is extremely important that individuals in the state of California do not own assault weapons. I mean that is just so crystal clear, there is no debate, no discussion."
An affidavit was filed on March 14, 2014, and unsealed on March 26, 2014, charging Yee with violating Title 18 United States Code Section 1343 and 1346 for honest services wire fraud by allegedly taking bribes from Well Tech, Ghee Kung Tong, and for medical marijuana legislation from undercover FBI agents in return for promises of official action; and Title 18 US Code Sections 371, 922(a)(1) and 922(1) for conspiracy to deal firearms without a license and to illegally import firearms from the Philippines by setting up an international weapons trafficking deal with undercover FBI agents. Yee was named with 28 other defendants in the FBI criminal complaint.
Yee was accused of dealing firearms without a license and illegally importing firearms. He was also accused of accepting "tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions and cash payments to provide introductions, help a client get a contract, and influence legislation." Yee and his campaign staff allegedly accepted at least $42,800 from undercover FBI agents in exchange for carrying out specific requests. Yee discussed the opportunity for an agent to get weapons worth up to $2.5 million from a Muslim separatist group in the Philippines to bring them to the US. He told the agent, "There's a part of me that wants to be like you. You know how I'm going to be like you? Just be a free agent there."Yee was arrested on March 26, 2014 and charged with six counts of depriving the public of honest services and one count of conspiracy to traffic guns without a license.
An excellent movie. Thank you for the suggestion.
Breaking Point was a good movie, I am in the Ukraine at least once a year. It depresses me every time I am there. Some of the best farm land in the world, and then still use horse drawn farm equipment. Everyone drinks a lot.
I support a Ukraine free of Russian troops.
Breaking Point was a good movie, I am in the Ukraine at least once a year. It depresses me every time I am there. Some of the best farm land in the world, and then still use horse drawn farm equipment. Everyone drinks a lot.
I support a Ukraine free of Russian troops.
Its sad that is the case, so much potential but they have a massive brain drain issue. All of the smart, young people leave for western Europe....
MountainRaven
08-14-20, 15:57
I am 40 minutes into A Snipers War, the only reason I am going to watch it to the end is I am hoping this Serbian jack ass get;s killed. He is not a trained sniper, he supports communism, as do the rebels it's seems.
Eff Russia and communism.
IIRC, the Russian-backed separatists in Ukraine call their governments the, “Donetsk Soviet Republic” and the, “Luhansk Soviet Republic.”
I will check these out-thanks for the tip.
The guys from the formerly Soviet-bloc countries that work with me, are some of the most aggressive and true-blue guys I know. They do not like to hear Socialist BS as they have lived it. I'm glad they made it here (in one case against all hair-raising odds) we are better for them!
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