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scottcc
08-30-20, 07:47
I’m just asking for information. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200830/20f31c92b6d0a72980c80b3cecddb65a.jpg

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scottcc
08-30-20, 07:51
It came with a hard case with Bushmaster logo and serial number, so I believe it was factory built.


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Slater
08-30-20, 08:05
Anything's possible, but all factory A2/A4 Bushmasters that I've seen came with the standard A2 flash suppressor. That muzzle brake looks aftermarket. Also looks like your carrier key needs to be staked.
scottcc
08-30-20, 08:20
I was told it was built to the DC market, slip on non threaded muzzle brake maybe legit.


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Arik
08-30-20, 09:47
Looks like an AK74 style muzzle break

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Circle_10
08-30-20, 09:59
Bushmaster did offer a carbine with a permanently attached AK-74 style brake on it, the “Shorty AK” I believe it was called. Not impossible they might have done a run of rifles with them too.
R0CKETMAN
08-30-20, 11:08
It may be a “ban” gun, but with changes post ban
wetidlerjr
08-30-20, 12:06
I found this online.
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Slater
08-30-20, 12:16
The ban ended in 2004. Were flattops a thing yet?
scottcc
08-30-20, 13:01
I found this online.
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The add says permanently attached brake, this one may not be permanent because it has a pin and likely not threaded.


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scottcc
08-30-20, 13:03
Anything's possible, but all factory A2/A4 Bushmasters that I've seen came with the standard A2 flash suppressor. That muzzle brake looks aftermarket. Also looks like your carrier key needs to be staked.

Yeah, it might be easier to just buy a staked one, and this one for a backup.


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wetidlerjr
08-30-20, 13:16
The ban ended in 2004. Were flattops a thing yet?

I bought two ban Bushmasters around 2000 and they both were flat tops with removable carry handles. I still have one of the lowers
wetidlerjr
08-30-20, 13:18
The add says permanently attached brake, this one may not be permanent because it has a pin and likely not threaded.
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Yeah, it may well not be the "Shorty AK" but I posted this because someone mentioned it.
I do (vaguely) remember the AK style brake being offered separately in their catalogue.
mark5pt56
08-30-20, 16:30
The L prefix with over 100k num is well into the ban time frame. If I remember correctly, L prefix and under 50-51k should be preban, there was a lot of question on complete guns in the 50-55k numbers. The issue was there were just receivers and not complete. The shorty AK's where actually good running guns, despite the experts here saying otherwise. Bushmaster was pressing and pinning the Y comps and AK brakes mainly due to the NY market as they specified, no threads underneath.
Slater
08-30-20, 16:39
You wonder if the "Bushmaster" brand will make a comeback at some point.
mark5pt56
08-30-20, 18:06
You wonder if the "Bushmaster" brand will make a comeback at some point.

I think only if the current Windham and some former Bushmaster guys believe it would be profitable.
n4p226r
08-30-20, 18:41
Looks like a shaved off bayonet lug too. Definitely ban compliant for something
R0CKETMAN
08-30-20, 18:42
The L prefix with over 100k num is well into the ban time frame. If I remember correctly, L prefix and under 50-51k should be preban, there was a lot of question on complete guns in the 50-55k numbers. The issue was there were just receivers and not complete. The shorty AK's where actually good running guns, despite the experts here saying otherwise. Bushmaster was pressing and pinning the Y comps and AK brakes mainly due to the NY market as they specified, no threads underneath.

Aha no threads

Yeah I had a flat top “ban bushy”...just crowned on the end
skipper49
08-30-20, 21:55
The “Shorty AK” was available as an A2 or A3. The AK74 style brake was permanently attached, and brought the 14.5” bbl to the legal
16”. The carbine was sans bayo lug.
The 74 brake was available on other uppers with different bbl lengths from Bushmaster.
The Shorty AK was fine, just stake that carrier key, and definitely put a BCM (or equivalent) extractor spring and buffer in it, and it’s good to go.
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JoshNC
08-30-20, 22:05
Those muzzle breaks were offered by Bushmaster as a standard catalog item. They were very common on 94-04 ban era rifles. The carrier key needs proper staking after ensuring the screws are properly torqued.
sdacbob
08-30-20, 22:41
I had a ban era XM15E2S carbine with a fixed A2style upper, shaved bayonet lug, pinned "collapsible" stock, 14.5" barrel with a pinned mini-tri-y comp. It also had one of the old Colt SP1 style funky bolt carriers. 63618
scottcc
08-31-20, 02:23
I had a ban era XM15E2S carbine with a fixed A2style upper, shaved bayonet lug, pinned "collapsible" stock, 14.5" barrel with a pinned mini-tri-y comp. It also had one of the old Colt SP1 style funky bolt carriers. 63618

The SP1 type is the same, for some reason it wasn’t staked, and the bolt I has no markings.


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scottcc
08-31-20, 08:07
I’m getting ready to take it to the range, and hopefully I can get good groups at 100 yards after zeroing.


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Hammer_Man
08-31-20, 09:33
Could it be a state specific compliant model (NY, MA, CA etc..)?
wetidlerjr
08-31-20, 10:31
Could it be a state specific compliant model (NY, MA, CA etc..)?
Most likely just a ban era Bushmaster.
I had one basically identical except for the comp. i still have the lower with a recent model Colt upper. My barrel was crowned with no threads (sold in Indiana).
justin_247
08-31-20, 11:03
Yeah, it might be easier to just buy a staked one, and this one for a backup.


Stake it anyway. It's really important to ensure that your carrier key screws don't back out. If you don't want to do it, you can send it to somebody like Chad Albrecht of SOTAR.
sdacbob
08-31-20, 11:11
The one I had wasn't staked either and also no markings. I eventually replaced the entire BCG.
Stickman
08-31-20, 17:50
Anything's possible, but all factory A2/A4 Bushmasters that I've seen came with the standard A2 flash suppressor. That muzzle brake looks aftermarket. Also looks like your carrier key needs to be staked.

Very common during the AWB era.
chef8489
08-31-20, 20:06
Is it a 16 or 20"?
I know they did the xm-15 es2 shortty with the ak muzzle device pinned and a a2 stock.
wetidlerjr
08-31-20, 20:47
Is it a 16 or 20"?
I know they did the xm-15 es2 shortty with the ak muzzle device pinned and a a2 stock.

Like this?
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chef8489
08-31-20, 20:59
Like this? :dirol:
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Yeah i missed the earlier post lol.
scottcc
08-31-20, 21:01
Is it a 16 or 20"?
I know they did the xm-15 es2 shortty with the ak muzzle device pinned and a a2 stock.

It’s 20”.


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Esq.
09-01-20, 13:17
Decent rifle. If it was mine I'd fix the little niggling crap- stake the bolt carrier and add a collapsing stock and A5 and stake the castle nut there....Maybe have the barrel cut for an actual flash hider. Add a good sling and an optic, lube the hell out of it and shoot it until something breaks- then replace it and drive on.
baffle Stack
09-02-20, 23:13
Definitely a ban era bushy. Had one during the ban. FWIW mine did have threads under the AK brake. Occasionally the notched hammer would would bind up against the firing pin when riding the charging handle forward.