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Never built one, but for the $7-8K FN wants for one, all I can ask is WHY?
While it has been tempting over the years (like the 1919 clones), the idea of a semi-auto belt-fed is lacking.
YMMV
Never built one, but for the $7-8K FN wants for one, all I can ask is WHY?
While it has been tempting over the years (like the 1919 clones), the idea of a semi-auto belt-fed is lacking.
YMMV
HK 21/23s are practical simply because of how easy it is to walk a registered sear. You can have one registered trigger group and run the entire 90 series including the Vollmer 91 to 21 conversions.
The ORF 1919s were affordable semi belts at one time, and many were .308 conversions so that's not completely impractical. For awhile the Shrike seemed like a solution for many registered lowers.
But other than that most belt fed semis are a LOT of money to have a semi auto that is twice as heavy and harder to reload. I could maybe understand it for people trapped behind the lines in states with magazine capacity restrictions.
Of course is money wasn't a consideration, I'd probably have a semi M249 just to have one, I think there are only a handful of transferables.
Never built one, but for the $7-8K FN wants for one, all I can ask is WHY?
While it has been tempting over the years (like the 1919 clones), the idea of a semi-auto belt-fed is lacking.
YMMV
FN 249S go for $11-14k now.
HK 21/23s are practical simply because of how easy it is to walk a registered sear. You can have one registered trigger group and run the entire 90 series including the Vollmer 91 to 21 conversions.
The ORF 1919s were affordable semi belts at one time, and many were .308 conversions so that's not completely impractical. For awhile the Shrike seemed like a solution for many registered lowers.
But other than that most belt fed semis are a LOT of money to have a semi auto that is twice as heavy and harder to reload. I could maybe understand it for people trapped behind the lines in states with magazine capacity restrictions.
Of course is money wasn't a consideration, I'd probably have a semi M249 just to have one, I think there are only a handful of transferables.
A semi beltfed is silly as a shooter imo. As a collectible, the FN 249S is really cool. And the upside to the 249S is for SOTs, particularly 07/02 who can modify and register FA conversion parts for the 249S, while keeping the host semiauto.
M16 lower with an Ares MCR upper...complete semi Ares are running $4k-$5k.
M16 lower with an Ares MCR upper...complete semi Ares are running $4k-$5k.
I already have this...https://i.postimg.cc/QxPGT6F6/48-C7-B425-0215-4-E26-B624-80441-E9-B0447.jpg
FN 249S go for $11-14k now.
A semi beltfed is silly as a shooter imo. As a collectible, the FN 249S is really cool. And the upside to the 249S is for SOTs, particularly 07/02 who can modify and register FA conversion parts for the 249S, while keeping the host semiauto.
This. I’m an 02. And I want to build it just for the challenge, just like building MP5s groan a flat.
Is that a 200rd nut sack & what sling??
Got a deal on mine but missing the bbl handle & open sights so running an eotech for now...found a 10.5" bbl & installed the can's flash hider a few days ago. Need to see how it tunes suppressed vs the 16".
I already have this...https://i.postimg.cc/QxPGT6F6/48-C7-B425-0215-4-E26-B624-80441-E9-B0447.jpg
A budy of mine has a semi auto FN 249. I think he paid about 8k for it.
Sure its fun. How much more fun then mag dumping anything else is hard to say.
There are many guns i would spend my money on before a saw
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Is that a 200rd nut sack & what sling??
Got a deal on mine but missing the bbl handle & open sights so running an eotech for now...found a 10.5" bbl & installed the can's flash hider a few days ago. Need to see how it tunes suppressed vs the 16".
That’s a USMC 200 round soft box and a Blue Force Gear padded sling. I’ve gone through a bunch of tuning on this one, it runs great and I’ve modified the feed tray so it doesn’t have the feeding issues all Shrikes/MCRs get
That’s a USMC 200 round soft box and a Blue Force Gear padded sling. I’ve gone through a bunch of tuning on this one, it runs great and I’ve modified the feed tray so it doesn’t have the feeding issues all Shrikes/MCRs get
What modifications are needed?? Mines an early unit & while it doesn't have a ton of rounds, I haven't had a failure to date.
What modifications are needed?? Mines an early unit & while it doesn't have a ton of rounds, I haven't had a failure to date.
The main issues that arise with these uppers are:
Charging handle breaks
Barrel retaining pin rounds over and fails (launches barrel down range)
The ledges between the receiver, feed tray and barrel extension will wear and then catch the tip of each round.
My upper now ha a one piece, full length feed ramp from
The feed tray all the way into the chamber. These army deal breakers, these can all be addressed and these uppers are still absolutely bad ass.
LOL...you got links on the replacement parts you are suggesting I need?? Good grief, their proprietary sights are insane expensive & now I'm going down this rabbit hole after the new barrel?? I almost choked over getting a spare bolt!!
M16 lower with an Ares MCR upper...complete semi Ares are running $4k-$5k.
I personally would not use a Shrike on one of my transferable M16 lowers. A post sample, sure. And the Shrike is nowhere near a comparable beltfed as a 249.
This. I’m an 02. And I want to build it just for the challenge, just like building MP5s groan a flat.
Well, keep me posted if you don’t mind. Also a 07/02 and interested in doing one too.
How is a shrike going to damage a lower regardless of roll stamp??
Why so sensitive about the comparison...it's the quickest way to the party for the civi??
I personally would not use a Shrike on one of my transferable M16 lowers. A post sample, sure. And the Shrike is nowhere near a comparable beltfed as a 249.
How is a shrike going to damage a lower regardless of roll stamp??
Why so sensitive about the comparison...it's the quickest way to the party for the civi??
I’m not at all sensitive of the comparison.
The shrike is running the ragged edge of bolt group travel and the feed cam pawl can impact the rear of the lower receiver if there is tolerance stacking. A friend watched a Shrike cause catastrophic failure of another guy’s converted transferable SP1 lower. As in a crack through the top of the receiver tang where the receiver extension threads in. Granted, a simple function check would have told him something was off. But I won’t use one on either of my transferables. I would have no problem using it on one of my post sample lowers.
I don't know man...having a FA lower & not enjoying it??
Might as well get married to a trophy wife, leave her at home after the wedding & be alone during the honeymoon...screw that, I'm gonna nail it.
I’m not at all sensitive of the comparison.
The shrike is running the ragged edge of bolt group travel and the feed cam pawl can impact the rear of the lower receiver if there is tolerance stacking. A friend watched a Shrike cause catastrophic failure of another guy’s converted transferable SP1 lower. As in a crack through the top of the receiver tang where the receiver extension threads in. Granted, a simple function check would have told him something was off. But I won’t use one on either of my transferables. I would have no problem using it on one of my post sample lowers.
I can agree 50%. This “can” be an issue but it was the operations fault for not doing a proper function check. This can halt on any platform but yes, the Shrike/MCR does push the ARish limits in pretty much every aspect. These uppers are not perfect, but they are very capable and are very high quality. I’ve made a name for myself in the Shrike community getting these to run reliably. I’m very happy with mine, that being said, I may sell it to find a M249 build. Just for the challenge...
I can agree 50%. This “can” be an issue but it was the operations fault for not doing a proper function check. This can halt on any platform but yes, the Shrike/MCR does push the ARish limits in pretty much every aspect. These uppers are not perfect, but they are very capable and are very high quality. I’ve made a name for myself in the Shrike community getting these to run reliably. I’m very happy with mine, that being said, I may sell it to find a M249 build. Just for the challenge...
Hey amigo...your PM box is overflowing & not accepting.
I don't know man...having a FA lower & not enjoying it??
Might as well get married to a trophy wife, leave her at home after the wedding & be alone during the honeymoon...screw that, I'm gonna nail it.
Hahahahaha. A good analogy and I agree in general. It’s why I would (and did...twice) pop the cherry on a NIB transferable MG. I thoroughly enjoy all of my transferable MGs. Not using a Shrike on one of my factory Colt M16 lowers doesn’t mean I’m not enjoying them. I also don’t shoot 9mm uppers on my M16s. Because I’m not interested in egged out fcg pin holes. And I hate the m16/9. And I have MP5s and UZIs.
I can agree 50%. This “can” be an issue but it was the operations fault for not doing a proper function check. This can halt on any platform but yes, the Shrike/MCR does push the ARish limits in pretty much every aspect. These uppers are not perfect, but they are very capable and are very high quality. I’ve made a name for myself in the Shrike community getting these to run reliably. I’m very happy with mine, that being said, I may sell it to find a M249 build. Just for the challenge...
Agreed. And I am going to hit you up by email. I may want to use an MCR upper on a post sample lower.
Hahahahaha. A good analogy and I agree in general. It’s why I would (and did...twice) pop the cherry on a NIB transferable MG. I thoroughly enjoy all of my transferable MGs. Not using a Shrike on one of my factory Colt M16 lowers doesn’t mean I’m not enjoying them. I also don’t shoot 9mm uppers on my M16s. Because I’m not interested in egged out fcg pin holes. And I hate the m16/9. And I have MP5s and UZIs.
Well, I'm just a plain ole 01 so I'm stuck with what I got...I would certainly take the advice if I had another lower to use. I still don't quite understand what was overlooked & the exact damage caused??
Well, I'm just a plain ole 01 so I'm stuck with what I got...I would certainly take the advice if I had another lower to use. I still don't quite understand what was overlooked & the exact damage caused??
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