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VooDoo6Actual
11-30-08, 12:56
http://www.rense.com/general84/ken.htm

Dave L.
11-30-08, 13:04
Hmm, I wonder what his response will be. I'm sure our gov. wont lift a finger based on any of this....they are scared of riots in the ghettos.

DrMark
11-30-08, 14:40
Hmm, I wonder what his response will be.

Ignoring the issue has worked pretty well for him so far.

zippygaloo
11-30-08, 15:06
Politicians will do anything to get elected, including lying, cheating and stealing.

Don Robison
11-30-08, 15:11
Politicians will do anything to get elected, including lying, cheating and stealing. Just look at how Obama has flipped flopped on his opinion of Hillary Clinton.


I hate the guy as much as anyone, but IMHO he just found a way to make her toothless in the next election.

CarlosDJackal
11-30-08, 15:18
If such an announcment ever comes to pass, I'm willing to lay odds that the dumbokrats are going to court to argue that since he was born of an American mother, he should still be considered as "naturally born".

Just because a bunch of gullible morons are stupid enough to buy into some enterprising individual's scam by declaring that bho was born in his hospital, hut, or manger; it doesn't mean it's true. Until I hear the official announcement that makes this scumbag ineligible to be POTUS, I'm not going to believe it.

Iraqgunz
11-30-08, 15:34
Just out of curiousity is there any other type of verification on this other than this website? Looking at other topics here I don't think I would put much credibility in this.

Submariner
11-30-08, 15:52
Just out of curiousity is there any other type of verification on this other than this website? Looking at other topics here I don't think I would put much credibility in this.

See http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm


Supreme court ruling on Obama’s eligibility for presidency
By Janitsar on Nov 18th, 2008

Supreme Court Of The United States (SCOTUS) Justice David Souter has agreed that a review of the federal lawsuit filed by attorney Phil Berg against Barack Hussein Obama II, et al., which was subsequently dismissed for lack of standing is warranted. SCOTUS Docket No. 08-570 contains the details.

A review of that docket and the Rule 10 of the Supreme Court makes abundantly clear that Justice Souter’s granting of a review on the Writ of Certiorari is not a right entitled to citizen Phil Berg, but rather is a matter of judcial discretion based upon a compelling reason. That compelling reason is the Constitutional requirement that “No person except a natural born citizen… shall be eligible to the office of President…”

What this means is that on or before 1 DECEMBER 2008 Barack Hussein Obama II must respond to the writ of certiorari, and since the Berg v Obama case hinged primarily on the question of Obama’s place of birth, it is almost inconceivable that Barack Obama will thumb his nose at the Justices of the Supreme Court and he is absolutely compelled to provide a vault copy his original birth certificate.

Another very salient fact to consider at this time is that, despite all of the pronouncements of the print and broadcast media, Barack Obama is not yet the President-elect of the United States. Barack Obama can only become the President-elect after the Electoral College convenes on 15 DECEMBER 2008 in their respective state capitals around the nation and casts their votes to elect the President and the Vice President. As you can see this election day occurs two weeks after the required response to the Supreme Court granted Writ of Certiorari.

The bottom line is this: the presidential election of 2008 remains an ongoing process, the outcome of which remains undetermined, and all talk about a potential Constitutional crisis in the United States are at least 36 days premature.

The inevitable constitutional crisis regarding President-elect Obama, of course, revolves around his inability (or unwillingness) to produce an authentic Hawaiian birth certificate with the raised certificate stamp that the Federal Elections Commission can independently verify.

Here are some of the unanswered issues hanging over the head of President-elect Barack Obama and the question of his American citizenship:

• The allegation that Obama was born in Kenya to parents unable to automatically grant him American citizenship;

• The allegation that Obama was made a citizen of Indonesia as a child and that he retained foreign citizenship into adulthood without recording an oath of allegiance to regain any theoretical American citizenship;

• The allegation that Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and that he may not be an eligible, natural-born citizen;

• The allegation that Obama was not born an American citizen; lost any hypothetical American citizenship he had as a child; that Obama may not now be an American citizen and even if he is, may hold dual citizenships with other countries. If any, much less all, of these allegations are true, the suit claims, Obama cannot constitutionally serve as president.

• The allegations that “Obama’s grandmother on his father’s side, half brother and half sister claim Obama was born in Kenya,” the suit states.” Reports reflect Obama’s mother went to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy, which apparently was a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight. Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama’s birth.”

• The claim could not be verified by inquiries to Hawaiian hospitals, since state law bars the hospitals from releasing medical records to the public;

Even if Obama produced authenticated proof of his birth in Hawaii, however, the suit claims that the U.S. Nationality Act of 1940 provided that minors lose their American citizenship when their parents expatriate. Since Obama’s mother married an Indonesian citizen and moved to Indonesia, the suit claims, she forfeited both her and Barack’s American citizenship.

The following response may be instructive:


smrstrauss Says:
November 18th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

Re: What this means is that on or before 1 DECEMBER 2008 Barack Hussein Obama II must respond to the writ of certiorari, and since the Berg v Obama case hinged primarily on the question of Obama’s place of birth, it is almost inconceivable that Barack Obama will thumb his nose at the Justices of the Supreme Court and he is absolutely compelled to provide a vault copy his original birth certificate.

NOT true. Only Berg has said that Souter asked to see the birth certificate, and you cannot believe Berg. Why not? Because the Supreme Court is an appeals court. It NEVER considers evidence, so it wouldn’t ask to see it.

The Dec. 1 date is only the date by which Obama, the Democratic Nat Committee AND the US government (the Solicitor General representing the US board of elections) may respond to Berg’s request for the Supreme Court to overrule the lower courts which ruled that he had no standing to sue.

In the unlikely case that the SC considers Berg’s appeal, and in the even more unlikely case that they rule he has standing to sue, the issue of the birth certificate would be sent to a lower court to decide the facts. That could take several months.

The key to this is the lack of an urgent response from the court. If four justices really thought that there was a case against Obama, they wouldn’t wait until Dec.1, they’d act as quickly as possible.

http://www.remoteviewer.nu/?p=10374

randolph
11-30-08, 15:58
Im pretty sure Barack Obama doesnt know where he was born.


Im told I was born in san antonio, on Lackland AF base, but I dont remember :p

czydj
11-30-08, 16:18
Im pretty sure Barack Obama doesnt know where he was born.

Great, issue closed! Next time you talk to him tell him I said howdy...

randolph
11-30-08, 16:27
Great, issue closed! Next time you talk to him tell him I said howdy...

oh look... a mensia in our midst :rolleyes:
not to mention the only person in the history of the world who remembers being born :p

my point was, the only way you know where you were born is by what you are told, you have no memory of popping out... :cool:

thanks for playing :D

Iraqgunz
11-30-08, 16:32
Submariner,

I am in Iraq but don't live in a cave. I am well aware of this portion of the debate and the alleged SCOTUS case. I am referring specifically to the announcement by the Kenyan official that Obama was born there. Even so, proving that he was born there is a whole different story.


See http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08-570.htm



The following response may be instructive:

czydj
11-30-08, 16:57
oh look... a mensia in our midst :rolleyes:
not to mention the only person in the history of the world who remembers being born :p

my point was, the only way you know where you were born is by what you are told, you have no memory of popping out... :cool:

thanks for playing :D


I'm smart enough not to make public statements indicating first hand knowledge of what Barry O thinks or knows.

JSantoro
11-30-08, 19:32
I am referring specifically to the announcement by the Kenyan official that Obama was born there. Even so, proving that he was born there is a whole different story.

Seconded on waiting for confirmation, and preferably from a news media source that doesn't wear at least three different styles of tinfoil hat, depending on which subset of Alien Space Bats he's trying to keep from reading his thoughts.

Jeff Rense's brain is a soup sandwich. That guy thinks that X-Files was a documentary show.

ReCon_1
11-30-08, 20:59
Im pretty sure Barack Obama doesnt know where he was born. :p


"Bo knows birthing" :D

SeriousStudent
11-30-08, 21:25
That guy thinks that X-Files was a documentary show.


BWHahahaha!!!! And another sig-line is born! :D

lalakai
11-30-08, 21:32
I think Kenya has several places that are listed as Obama's birth place, and they are great tourist draws. There was also some discussion as to whether the Ambassador was referring to Obama Senior (his dad), or Obama himself. Either way, it's not the proof we need.