Are Eotech models w/2 dots really worth the money ?

[lowprone]

Watching the EOTECH products slowly trickle back into circulation and wondering if
the optics featuring 2 dots like the model EXPS2-0 are really worth the extra expense ?
I do intend to purchase a magnifier and would like some feedback from someone who
has actually used this combination, " did you like it, did it preform as advertised " ?
Would you prefer the single dot instead, and why?

[mebiuspower]

2 dots models are the ones ending with -2 not -0.

The second dot is useful for holdovers especially with a magnifier.

[TBAR_94]

I have shot a -2 model, and I own a -0. I don’t personally see the point at the ranges I shoot. The 2 dot models are set up for a 50/200 zero on the top dot and a 500 point of aim—how often are your shooting at 500 yards? I tend to think if you do need to shoot that far you’re better with a scope with a reticle that’s offers wind and holdovers. My issue with the two dots is you are still guessing at your 300 and 400 point of aim, and in most conditions at 500 you will still need to hold for winds so precise aim point the dot offers doesn’t really solve any problems.

When I did shoot the -2 my buddy has the bottom dot did appear to be correct for 500 yards with green tip—or as correct as my average shooting would allow.

[Wake27]

Yeah the EXPS 3-2 or 2-2 are models with a second dot. My primary EOTech is a 3-2 and I like it. Works well for CQB holdovers too, maim reason I bought it...


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[lowprone]

I think I will just go with the single dot.

[opngrnd]

Did anyone using the 2 dot models find them too busy? Does it detract from speed of acquiring the 50/200 dot for you?

[1168]

I tend to forget that the second dot is there until I need it. It does work. Eotechs pair pretty well with a magnifier. My 2 dot is on a PCC right now; I should probably get on Strelok.



Yeah the EXPS 3-2 or 2-2 are models with a second dot. My primary EOTech is a 3-2 and I like it. Works well for CQB holdovers too, maim reason I bought it...


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To elaborate in this, the second dot is usually at its best at ~10-25m. It works well for most of the middle of a 25yd CQB/indoor square range on a 25yd zero (3-4yd to 20yd headshots), and 3yd-26yd (5-27yd with a riser) headshots with a 50m zero. On a 25m zero, the primary dot becomes better than the second past 15yds, and with a 50m zero, that point is around 25m.

The ranges it works for is unsurprisingly narrower on the PCC with 25yd zero than the 5.56 with 200yd zero. A riser slightly narrows and extends the ranges where the second dot is appropriate for CQM headshots, by about a meter, inconsequential in the real world. As you can see above, zeroing closer shortens the range where it is appropriate for aforementioned headshots. I’m using a hypothetical 4” circle for this standard, btw.

If you use a two-dot EoTech on a PCC in IDPA/USPSA pistol matches, the second dot should be used for all but the closest and furthest targets. Expand the target diameter to 8”, and it can be used from 0-30yds on a 25m zero, much further for a 50yd zero.

That bottom hash on the the circle is of course your 5m POA.

[opngrnd]

I really appreciate it, 1168. Being sufficiently covered with Aimpoint on my primary, I've been wanting to try an EOTech and that's the model that's on the shelf near me.

[sinister]

Generally, zero with the top dot at 200. For 300, put it on his face. For 400, generally if you put it on top his head you should connect.

For 500, lower dot on the chest.

[opngrnd]

Generally, zero with the top dot at 200. For 300, put it on his face. For 400, generally if you put it on top his head you should connect.

For 500, lower dot on the chest.

Thank you. I'm looking forward to running a few thousand rounds with the Eotech and seeing how it compares with an Aimpoint PRO. Probably not much different, but I'll find out either way.

[CrowCommand]

I recently got into a 3-2 with magnifier, after running an Aimpoint PRO for years. I like the two dot reticle, though as mentioned above, I am not shooting to 500 yds often. 1168 dropped some good knowledge above as well.

Where the Eotech really shines for me, is the "donut" around the dots for up close, fast target acquisition. Where it lacks, compared to the Aimpoint, is the battery life. I like that I can leave the PRO on all the time.

I feel like it is a solid "do-all well, but nothing the best" set up. I'm running the 3-2 on a 14.5 SOCOM barrel 6920, which has proven to be stupid accurate w/ 62gr HPBT. The PRO lives on my 11.5, which is definitely not a tack driver, but is sufficient for what it needs to do.

FWIW, I have not shot it w/ the magnifier, it had to go back to Eotech to replace a missing spring in the lock lever. Also, I am a strictly one way range shooter....just steel, paper, and silhouette drills for me.

[1168]

I recently got into a 3-2 with magnifier, after running an Aimpoint PRO for years. I like the two dot reticle, though as mentioned above, I am not shooting to 500 yds often. 1168 dropped some good knowledge above as well.

Where the Eotech really shines for me, is the "donut" around the dots for up close, fast target acquisition. Where it lacks, compared to the Aimpoint, is the battery life. I like that I can leave the PRO on all the time.


Thanks. That donut really shines for transitioning to a second (or third) target when using fullsize paper or 2/3 steel silhouettes up close. Or whenever you drive the rifle to a target laterally, like many interior scenarios. Especially if you are the type to drive the rifle looking through the reticle. The Aimpoint kinda forces you to bring your eyes to the target then dot to your eyes.