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MWAG19919
10-17-20, 02:56
I use a sentry strap to keep my sling out of the way on my HD MK18 pistol. My dad uses a BCM 12.5" Kino in pistol configuration for his HD gun, and I thought I'd purchase a sentry strap for his gun as well. I overlooked the fact that his sling is on the right side of the gun, so the sentry strap places the sling directly over the ejection port—obviously a nonstarter.

Do y'all have suggestions for how a lefty can tidy up his sling? Other than "learn to shoot right handed" of course...

boss_hawg
10-17-20, 06:52
Could you wrap the sling under the hand guard and then on the left side of the firearm before securing?

You would have to leave enough slack to clear the magazine and pistol grip on deployment so that you could quickly pull it under and then up to the right side for use.

Edit to add: thinking about that, though, it would require you to take your dominant hand off of the grip which may be no bueno.

TMS951
10-17-20, 09:00
if i was a lefty I'd likely either set up the gun with a left side ejection, or shoot right handed.

Those seemingly not an option here, attached the sling on the right and bring it under the gun and stow it on the left side.

vandal5
10-17-20, 09:26
What is a Sentry strap and have you tried testing it to see if it really causes a malfunction? Can you not set it loose enough to fall away from the ejection port?



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L-2
10-17-20, 11:30
For Post_4, here's a Sentry Strap webpage:
https://theneomag.com/shop/sentry-strap/

It appears to be a nicely made hook&loop strap which wraps around the handguard for the, only, under $40 delivered (depends on sales tax & shipping, I suppose).

I use leftover rubber bands from buying broccoli at the grocery store and fold-up the extra sling length at the stock-end.

For the OP's left-handed (sling on the right) use, I'd foresee grapping the firearm and immediately pulling the sling free, therefore clearing the AR's ejection port area. I think the OP is thinking to use the sling and Sentry Strap with it all wrapped up on the firearm.

My thinking is the Sentry Strap is mainly used as an on-weapon sling-storage (whether in a safe or in a rack of some sort) "solution" rather than deploying the firearm as is (even though a right-handed/left-side-sling could be done so).

vandal5
10-17-20, 15:47
For Post_4, here's a Sentry Strap webpage:
https://theneomag.com/shop/sentry-strap/

It appears to be a nicely made hook&loop strap which wraps around the handguard for the, only, under $40 delivered (depends on sales tax & shipping, I suppose).

I use leftover rubber bands from buying broccoli at the grocery store and fold-up the extra sling length at the stock-end.

For the OP's left-handed (sling on the right) use, I'd foresee grapping the firearm and immediately pulling the sling free, therefore clearing the AR's ejection port area. I think the OP is thinking to use the sling and Sentry Strap with it all wrapped up on the firearm.

My thinking is the Sentry Strap is mainly used as an on-weapon sling-storage (whether in a safe or in a rack of some sort) "solution" rather than deploying the firearm as is (even though a right-handed/left-side-sling could be done so).Thank you for the link.

I currently have a itw web dominator that I use but it's not a great solution. The sentry strap looks like it eould work better.

OP could also try this:
https://www.blueforcegear.com/sling-sleeve.html



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maximus83
10-17-20, 16:20
if i was a lefty I'd likely either set up the gun with a left side ejection, or shoot right handed.

With bolt guns, absolutely. After a lifetime of farting around with RH bolt guns, I've finally sold off my last one and my bolt guns are all LH. Love it.

AR's--IMHO it's not worth it for lefties. Yeah you have Stag and a few others building LH receivers, but it just isn't worth the headaches with compatibility and parts. I just shoot all my RH AR's, setup ambi controls for CH/selector/mag release, and leave well enough alone. It's workable for a lefty to run a sling in general on a RH rifle, I'm able to make it work. Heck LAV himself who's behind the VCAS slings is a lefty, here's his video with tips:

https://news.aroutfitting.com/2020/08/13/bcm-training-tip-ar-15-left-handed-manipulation/

titsonritz
10-17-20, 19:36
With bolt guns, absolutely. After a lifetime of farting around with RH bolt guns, I've finally sold off my last one and my bolt guns are all LH. Love it.

AR's--IMHO it's not worth it for lefties. Yeah you have Stag and a few others building LH receivers, but it just isn't worth the headaches with compatibility and parts. I just shoot all my RH AR's, setup ambi controls for CH/selector/mag release, and leave well enough alone. It's workable for a lefty to run a sling in general on a RH rifle, I'm able to make it work. Heck LAV himself who's behind the VCAS slings is a lefty, here's his video with tips:

https://news.aroutfitting.com/2020/08/13/bcm-training-tip-ar-15-left-handed-manipulation/

Another lefty saying the same, I'll stick with standard right side ejection with ambi-controls.

I use the BFG sling sleeve that Vandal5 posted above or a Ranger band on my BCM stocks to secure my slings.

boss_hawg
10-18-20, 06:50
Check our Sheriff of Baghdad too for his videos. He (Shrek) makes slings (which are great BTW) but I recall that he may be left eye dominant. You should be able to see how he stores the sling on his rifle for left hand use.

TomMcC
10-18-20, 12:39
You might try something like this. It does cover the ejection port for a lefty, but it's very quick to deploy out of this position.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3yXTX6z_cw

26 Inf
10-18-20, 22:03
I use a sentry strap to keep my sling out of the way on my HD MK18 pistol. My dad uses a BCM 12.5" Kino in pistol configuration for his HD gun, and I thought I'd purchase a sentry strap for his gun as well. I overlooked the fact that his sling is on the right side of the gun, so the sentry strap places the sling directly over the ejection port—obviously a nonstarter.

Do y'all have suggestions for how a lefty can tidy up his sling? Other than "learn to shoot right handed" of course...

Lefty here. I use Ranger Bands, the bands John McPhee sends with his SOB B-slings, and big rubber bands form the office supply store. Ess-roll the sling and slide it under the band on the stock.

I generally mount my slings as far forward and as far to the rear as possible. I store the sling fairly snug, and I have no problems with the sling interfering with ejection while stowed. The fact that I run my sling mounts as forward and as rearward as possible may have something to do with this. ETA - I actually run the rear QD swivel on the left side of the stock, running the sling around the rear of the stock when stowed.

I generally just leave the sling as stowed when shooting from the bench, as I said no problems. I could see how using the sentry strap at the rear of the handguard could easily cause problems, though. As a result, I'm not interested in the product.

Leftie
10-19-20, 10:17
Lefty here. I use Ranger Bands, the bands John McPhee sends with his SOB B-slings, and big rubber bands form the office supply store. Ess-roll the sling and slide it under the band on the stock.

I generally mount my slings as far forward and as far to the rear as possible. I store the sling fairly snug, and I have no problems with the sling interfering with ejection while stowed. The fact that I run my sling mounts as forward and as rearward as possible may have something to do with this. ETA - I actually run the rear QD swivel on the left side of the stock, running the sling around the rear of the stock when stowed.

I generally just leave the sling as stowed when shooting from the bench, as I said no problems. I could see how using the sentry strap at the rear of the handguard could easily cause problems, though. As a result, I'm not interested in the product.

Another left-handed person here. This is very similar to how I store slings. I haven't had an issue with this setup at all, and when I've needed to use the sling, I pull the sling out and it's ready to use.

I do think that having sling mounts as far forward and as far to the rear as possible helps with this issue for left-handed people.

Rogue556
10-19-20, 10:35
I'm not left handed, but this works equally well on either side. I use the Sling Keep B that Forward Controls Design sells. The width of it helps secure the sling much better than the ranger bands I was using previously. If you pair it with a good 2 to 1 point sling, you can make use of the single point configuration as a means to stow the sling on the stock and out of the way of all of the controls. I prefer the Blue Force Gear Vickers 221 sling strictly for this reason.


The BFG Vickers 221 sling has the socket in line with the sling, not offset like many other 2 to 1 point slings, which helps keep everything tight together when stowed.

https://i.imgur.com/yGGAKTh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GXne49d.png

As you can see, the position of the QD socket allows the sling to nicely fold over itself.

https://i.imgur.com/xasokig.jpg

Depending on your stock/brace setup, the sling can be positioned underneath of the cheek rest and still allow you to shoulder the rifle from either side without much hastle.

https://i.imgur.com/sBRXiA4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/l85z0JS.jpg

It really doesn't add much to the profile of the weapon, and at least for me, doesn't get in the way at all. I can run the weapon as if there wasn't a sling there at all.

https://i.imgur.com/EdtHlJZ.jpg

If you find time to get the sling out, then you can easily pull it out of the Sling Keep B. I find it easier to put the sling on in the 1 point configuration first, the release the front socket from the sling socket, and mount it forward as normal.

Obviously this may not be for everyone, but it's been the best way I've found to stow a sling by far.

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MWAG19919
11-12-20, 09:59
I should’ve added that the gun has a LAW folding adapter and spends a fair amount of time in folded configuration. But it has QD points at the rear of the brace, rear of the receiver, and at the fore and aft points of the rail

MWAG19919
11-12-20, 10:00
Lefty here. I use Ranger Bands, the bands John McPhee sends with his SOB B-slings, and big rubber bands form the office supply store. Ess-roll the sling and slide it under the band on the stock.

I generally mount my slings as far forward and as far to the rear as possible. I store the sling fairly snug, and I have no problems with the sling interfering with ejection while stowed. The fact that I run my sling mounts as forward and as rearward as possible may have something to do with this. ETA - I actually run the rear QD swivel on the left side of the stock, running the sling around the rear of the stock when stowed.

I generally just leave the sling as stowed when shooting from the bench, as I said no problems. I could see how using the sentry strap at the rear of the handguard could easily cause problems, though. As a result, I'm not interested in the product.

I’m having a hard time picturing the S-roll. Do you have a photo of your setup?

26 Inf
11-13-20, 20:18
I’m having a hard time picturing the S-roll. Do you have a photo of your setup?

Took one:

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