Park some of this arty on the Dumbwalts

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2020/12/02/armys_newest_long-range_fires_system_isnt_new_but_it_will_be_effective_651682.html



First, there is the Extended Range Cannon Artillery (ERCA). The new cannon is based on the M109A7 Paladin Self-Propelled Howitzer, itself a substantial upgrade of this system. With a longer barrel and new breach, the ERCA will be able to fire advanced precision-guided shells up to 70 kilometers and even up to 100 kilometers, more than twice the range of existing artillery systems

Hopefully cheaper than a cruise missile...

[kaiservontexas]

Same reason I believe in the naval concept of the dreadnought. Shelling is cheaper than launching rockets, and it is just as precise, plus more ordnance may possibly be carried in stores. Do not get me wrong. Submarines are very important, and the carriers, but a true honest to God gun platform is capable of so much, and with today’s capabilities. It is worth so much more, and I know my statements regard naval force projection.

Still it also applies to the army and their artillery capabilities. I think people forget about the importance of it versus all the smart bombs and airplanes, missiles, and the other shinny technology stuff. Sadly some may even look upon it as near obsolete 19th century technology. I believe Napoleon still has a very good point regarding artillery.

[Coal Dragger]

Zumwalts just need to be scrapped and any naval officers still in the service who were involved in pushing them need to be cashiered out.

[kaiservontexas]

Zumwalts just need to be scrapped and any naval officers still in the service who were involved in pushing them need to be cashiered out.

No argument from me.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

The Des Moines class heavy cruisers had Nine of the 8 inch self-loading Mark 16 guns, that could fire 10 rounds a minute. 355# shells, over 30,000 pounds on target per minute, out to almost 30,000 yards. Over 12 tons per minute of HE.

And 12 5 inch guns putting 15-20 rounds per minute out for another 4 tons per minute.

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_8-55_mk16.php

For reference, Iowa’s 9 guns at two rounds a minute with super heavy AP shells put 48000 pounds of shells per minute on target, and just 34000 pounds of regular ammo.

That Drachenfeld YouTube channel leads to many rabbit holes...

[Coal Dragger]

Yes it does.

Ultimately against peer or near peer opponents most surface ships are simply targets for submarines, and if we want to use them for shore bombardment they’re easy close targets for all manner of anti-ship missiles.

[Adrenaline_6]

I read somewhere they were toying with the idea of bringing back the Battleship and equipping it with a bunch of the Strategic Long-Range Cannons (SLRC's).

Hmmm....a bunch of +1500km range cannons on a mobile platform that can carry with it a crapload of ammo? Damn it man.

[Whiskey_Bravo]

I read somewhere they were toying with the idea of bringing back the Battleship and equipping it with a bunch of the Strategic Long-Range Cannons (SLRC's).

Hmmm....a bunch of +1500km range cannons on a mobile platform that can carry with it a crapload of ammo? Damn it man.

Don't toy with me.

[Adrenaline_6]

Don't toy with me.

LOL...it would save a lot of bomb sorties.

Also, depending on how accurate it is, any team, almost anywhere could have devastating cover fire support. No refueling required.

[Coal Dragger]

The Montana class finally get hull numbers, albeit redesigned and 80 years late.

[soulezoo]

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2020/12/02/armys_newest_long-range_fires_system_isnt_new_but_it_will_be_effective_651682.html




Hopefully cheaper than a cruise missile...

Yes, but not by a lot.

The question you have to ask, cruise missile vs new precision projo, is: can it as effectively take out a $10 tent?

[Coal Dragger]

Plus the brass in charge will find a way to totally screw it up. Look at the Zumwalt.

[kaiservontexas]

I read somewhere they were toying with the idea of bringing back the Battleship and equipping it with a bunch of the Strategic Long-Range Cannons (SLRC's).

Hmmm....a bunch of +1500km range cannons on a mobile platform that can carry with it a crapload of ammo? Damn it man.

That would be epic! Build it now! Oh wait nevermind . . . With the way things are looking government wise in the foreseeable future. That naval system will stay on paper.