PDA

View Full Version : Voted Biden? No ammo for you!



WillBrink
02-14-21, 17:59
That's a creative way for a biz to make their statement and maybe set an example others could follow? I mean, selling to those who actively support those who wish to see you out of biz, is self defeating:

Ammo manufacturer refuses to sell to anyone who voted for Biden: ‘Are we serious? Yes, we are serious.’

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/ammo-manufacturer-refuses-to-sell-to-anyone-who-voted-for-biden-are-we-serious-yes-we-are-serious/

GH41
02-14-21, 18:10
That's a creative way for a biz to make their statement and maybe set an example others could follow? I mean, selling to those who actively support those who wish to see you out of biz, is self defeating:

Ammo manufacturer refuses to sell to anyone who voted for Biden: ‘Are we serious? Yes, we are serious.’

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/ammo-manufacturer-refuses-to-sell-to-anyone-who-voted-for-biden-are-we-serious-yes-we-are-serious/

Will, Do you really think the average lib-tard is capable of telling the truth about who they voted for?? I don't!

georgeib
02-14-21, 18:11
That's a creative way for a biz to make their statement and maybe set an example others could follow? I mean, selling to those who actively support those who wish to see you out of biz, is self defeating:

Ammo manufacturer refuses to sell to anyone who voted for Biden: ‘Are we serious? Yes, we are serious.’

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/ammo-manufacturer-refuses-to-sell-to-anyone-who-voted-for-biden-are-we-serious-yes-we-are-serious/

Great marketing strategy. They're not losing any real amount of business from leftists, and are gaining loyalty from their core base.

Mjolnir
02-14-21, 18:34
All of the Communist Bastards near me are so quiet you can hear a rat piss on cotton.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

SteyrAUG
02-14-21, 18:37
Because we support FREEDOM but aren't above telling you how we think you should vote.

So private business can do what private business wishes. That said I remember when people in the adult industry suggested selling adult material only to those who can provide a voter registration card that shows them as a Democrat. It was silly when they suggested that shit but also cried about first amendment freedoms. This is just another example of "bake my special cake regardless of how you feel."

This would be meaningful if a large ammo manufacturer refused to do business with states that had bans of certain firearms and standard capacity magazines.

JoshNC
02-14-21, 19:27
Because we support FREEDOM but aren't above telling you how we think you should vote.

So private business can do what private business wishes. That said I remember when people in the adult industry suggested selling adult material only to those who can provide a voter registration card that shows them as a Democrat. It was silly when they suggested that shit but also cried about first amendment freedoms. This is just another example of "bake my special cake regardless of how you feel."

This would be meaningful if a large ammo manufacturer refused to do business with states that had bans of certain firearms and standard capacity magazines.

Agreed. Stop selling and providing any services to PDs in jurisdictions that restrict civilian firearms and ammunition. PDs can only buy what the regular tax payer can buy.

Vic79
02-14-21, 19:40
It’s a good start! ****em!

vicious_cb
02-14-21, 19:45
Because we support FREEDOM but aren't above telling you how we think you should vote.

So private business can do what private business wishes. That said I remember when people in the adult industry suggested selling adult material only to those who can provide a voter registration card that shows them as a Democrat. It was silly when they suggested that shit but also cried about first amendment freedoms. This is just another example of "bake my special cake regardless of how you feel."

This would be meaningful if a large ammo manufacturer refused to do business with states that had bans of certain firearms and standard capacity magazines.

Heh, you still think there are rules and honor in this game we are playing?

SteyrAUG
02-15-21, 03:06
Heh, you still think there are rules and honor in this game we are playing?

No but I think there is shit that works and shit that doesn't work. Do the Ronnie Barrett model and target those who pass and enforce the laws. Deny THEM the tools to do the work. Who cares if Sally Soccermom can't buy 9mm, she will buy a different brand.

Hank6046
02-15-21, 07:44
I sort of find these little marketing ploys petty and roll my eyes at them, but Fenix makes awesome ammunition. The majority of my 9mm training ammo is there's and it was incredibly cost effective for quality.

1986s4
02-15-21, 09:27
Because we support FREEDOM but aren't above telling you how we think you should vote.

So private business can do what private business wishes. That said I remember when people in the adult industry suggested selling adult material only to those who can provide a voter registration card that shows them as a Democrat. It was silly when they suggested that shit but also cried about first amendment freedoms. This is just another example of "bake my special cake regardless of how you feel."

This would be meaningful if a large ammo manufacturer refused to do business with states that had bans of certain firearms and standard capacity magazines.

It isn't ammo but I'm pretty sure Barret firearms does not sell in CA or service CA governmental agencies .

Oops just saw an earlier post regarding this. Mods may delete.

DG23
02-15-21, 09:41
I sort of find these little marketing ploys petty and roll my eyes at them, but Fenix makes awesome ammunition. The majority of my 9mm training ammo is there's and it was incredibly cost effective for quality.

Saw a thing on their website about a credit for spent brass. That screams reloads to me...

Not saying they are 'bad' reloads but would still rather load my own.

Hank6046
02-15-21, 09:53
Saw a thing on their website about a credit for spent brass. That screams reloads to me...

Not saying they are 'bad' reloads but would still rather load my own.

I figured that, I don't really have a problem training with reman. I own a ton of Winchester white box that give me more trouble then anything from Fenix ever has, and at one point I was buying a good amount of Freedom that was not reman and I had a good amount of issues with that. I would reload but I can't find the time.

Alex V
02-15-21, 11:57
No but I think there is shit that works and shit that doesn't work. Do the Ronnie Barrett model and target those who pass and enforce the laws. Deny THEM the tools to do the work. Who cares if Sally Soccermom can't buy 9mm, she will buy a different brand.

This.

I wish more manufacturers would stop selling to restrictive jurisdictions, that also means the federal government when they pass federal level gun control laws. Having said that, we all know it will never happen, so I will take small gestures like this when where I can.

I also wish instructors would deny training to people who vote for gun control. In most states voter registration is public information. 5 minutes on Google and if you're a registered Dem, no soup for you. I know this goes against the "animating contest of freedom" we all believe in, but at some point we have to start playing their game because we are losing otherwise.

WillBrink
02-15-21, 12:54
This.

I wish more manufacturers would stop selling to restrictive jurisdictions, that also means the federal government when they pass federal level gun control laws. Having said that, we all know it will never happen, so I will take small gestures like this when where I can.

I also wish instructors would deny training to people who vote for gun control. In most states voter registration is public information. 5 minutes on Google and if you're a registered Dem, no soup for you. I know this goes against the "animating contest of freedom" we all believe in, but at some point we have to start playing their game because we are losing otherwise.

Interesting idea. That is using their own tactics against them, which I have mixed feelz about.

Defaultmp3
02-15-21, 13:47
This threat to not sell to Biden voters would mean a lot more if they actually had excess inventory available to sell to Biden voters. It's not like they're leaving money on the table for the sake of principle, so this is nothing more than marketing.

I also have been made aware that Fenix has made a fair number of anti-LE comments within the past few months, so there's also that.

jsbhike
02-15-21, 15:42
They already stopped selling to police.

"Fenix "Kulak" Ammunition (@FenixAmmunition) Tweeted:
Officer Matthew Chylaszek is a coward, and an oathbreaker.

Guess who isn't doing business with law enforcement agencies ever again? https://t.co/7OR7u5AQwq https://twitter.com/FenixAmmunition/status/1352290944654209029?s=20

Alex V
02-15-21, 16:13
Interesting idea. That is using their own tactics against them, which I have mixed feelz about.

Will, I have long lost any aversion to the idea. We can either "maintain the high ground" and lose, or get dirty and win. There is no chivalry in being a nice guy when you're a loser. They made it clear that they want to marginalize and eliminate us, you can't defeat that level of evil by playing nice.

jsbhike
02-15-21, 16:28
Interesting idea. That is using their own tactics against them, which I have mixed feelz about.

A hardware store with links to lumber/timber not selling gutter nails and a hammer to someone due to some sort of personal prejudice such as the color of their skin is BS.

A hardware store with links to lumber/timber not selling gutter nails and a hammer to someone due to their wearing an Earth First! T-shirt is a wholly different scenario.

Alex V
02-15-21, 16:37
A hardware store with links to lumber/timber not selling gutter nails and a hammer to someone due to some sort of personal prejudice such as the color of their skin is BS.

A hardware store with links to lumber/timber not selling gutter nails and a hammer to someone due to their wearing an Earth First! T-shirt is a wholly different scenario.

If we can really push this idea forward, it will force the Left to play themselves. As far as I can tell, right now political affiliation isn't a protected class under anti-discriminations laws like sex, color and orientation is. If we start heavily discriminatingly against against Democrats they will want to add political affiliation to the anti-discriminations law, they will also not want to do it because they don't want us to have legal protections. Which way will they chose? We MUST take this fight to them. They want cancel culture? Shove it down their throats! Conservative owned businesses must refuse all service to people on the left, see how they like it for once.

SteyrAUG
02-15-21, 17:17
Interesting idea. That is using their own tactics against them, which I have mixed feelz about.

What about sleepers? I know a few people registered Democrat so they can vote in primaries.

PracticalRifleman
02-15-21, 17:39
This threat to not sell to Biden voters would mean a lot more if they actually had excess inventory available to sell to Biden voters. It's not like they're leaving money on the table for the sake of principle, so this is nothing more than marketing.

I also have been made aware that Fenix has made a fair number of anti-LE comments within the past few months, so there's also that.

If LE went around looking for trouble by citing them for masks, f the LE. I’ll support that.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

WillBrink
02-15-21, 17:50
What about sleepers? I know a few people registered Democrat so they can vote in primaries.

Not that the Dems and left wouldnt do it to anyone GOP, but just being a Dem probably too wide a net. Voting for Biden knowing precisely what his plans are, as he laid it all out on his site, for sure. F them.

SteyrAUG
02-15-21, 18:48
Not that the Dems and left wouldnt do it to anyone GOP, but just being a Dem probably too wide a net. Voting for Biden knowing precisely what his plans are, as he laid it all out on his site, for sure. F them.

But again, how would you know? I just did a pretty extensive search for myself and my wife and came up with nothing, not even how I'm registered let alone how I voted. This is essentially just virtue signalling from our side.

jsbhike
02-15-21, 19:38
But again, how would you know? I just did a pretty extensive search for myself and my wife and came up with nothing, not even how I'm registered let alone how I voted. This is essentially just virtue signalling from our side.

I have always got the impression virtue signaling is Party B claiming(disingenuously) to support Party A's position.

I am not aware of any other firearms companies ceasing to sell to democrats or all police, the latter going way the hell outside the norm of how most players in the firearms industry operate.

SteyrAUG
02-15-21, 23:22
I have always got the impression virtue signaling is Party B claiming(disingenuously) to support Party A's position.

I am not aware of any other firearms companies ceasing to sell to democrats or all police, the latter going way the hell outside the norm of how most players in the firearms industry operate.

Virtue signalling is actions done for purposes of signalling attention to one's virtues, typically political or social positions. An example being a baker making a point to fly a LGBT flag during the "gay wedding cake" crisis.

Alex V
02-16-21, 06:58
What about sleepers? I know a few people registered Democrat so they can vote in primaries.

Collateral damage. It happens.

WillBrink
02-16-21, 08:45
But again, how would you know? I just did a pretty extensive search for myself and my wife and came up with nothing, not even how I'm registered let alone how I voted. This is essentially just virtue signalling from our side.

You'd ask them. If they lie they lie, but most Dems and Biden voters would loath to be listed as lowering themselves down to GOP voters and their ego and self importance suggests to me it would be a small %. It's more to prove a point and make a statement I'd expect. It will piss them off to no end, so mission completed.

Averageman
02-16-21, 09:33
If you came in my shop wanting me to work on a car with a "Biden/Harris" bumper sticker, I would show you the door.

morbidbattlecry
02-16-21, 11:20
How long before they blame Democrats and China for losing money because of lack of sales?

jsbhike
02-16-21, 16:33
How long before they blame Democrats and China for losing money because of lack of sales?

The Bush I/Clinton/Bush II semi auto bans, Trump's bump stock ban, and all other anti 2nd measures have financially harmed firearms businesses.

Some in the firearms business apparently do not care about the loss, some even appear to like it, but Fenix and some others seem to fit outside that mold.

SteyrAUG
02-16-21, 19:42
You'd ask them. If they lie they lie, but most Dems and Biden voters would loath to be listed as lowering themselves down to GOP voters and their ego and self importance suggests to me it would be a small %. It's more to prove a point and make a statement I'd expect. It will piss them off to no end, so mission completed.

Actually it's more like refusing to sell bondage porn to church goers. I doubt it will make a difference.

SteyrAUG
02-16-21, 19:44
The Bush I/Clinton/Bush II semi auto bans, Trump's bump stock ban, and all other anti 2nd measures have financially harmed firearms businesses.

Some in the firearms business apparently do not care about the loss, some even appear to like it, but Fenix and some others seem to fit outside that mold.

You forgot LBJ, Nixon, Carter and Reagan. They all banned shit. I think Kennedy was the last president to NOT ban something firearm related.

Coal Dragger
02-16-21, 20:08
They already stopped selling to police.

"Fenix "Kulak" Ammunition (@FenixAmmunition) Tweeted:
Officer Matthew Chylaszek is a coward, and an oathbreaker.

Guess who isn't doing business with law enforcement agencies ever again? https://t.co/7OR7u5AQwq https://twitter.com/FenixAmmunition/status/1352290944654209029?s=20

Wasn’t aware that they had a bunch of LE contracts to put their money where their mouth is.

DG23
02-16-21, 20:29
Wasn’t aware that they had a bunch of LE contracts to put their money where their mouth is.


Would imagine that they are feeling the same pinch on components as everyone lately and do not have much to sell to anyone...

I DO think it is cool they stood up against the stupid mask orders. They deserve credit for that.

WillBrink
02-17-21, 08:44
Actually it's more like refusing to sell bondage porn to church goers. I doubt it will make a difference.

I don't think it would make an appreciable difference no.