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Seems like there are more and more "politically incorrect" companies around these days:
"The company providing the jackets said The North Face doesn’t want to support the oil and gas industry in the same way they’d reject the porn industry or tobacco industry.
“They told us we did not meet their brand standards,” Anderson said. “We were separately informed that what that really meant is was that we were an oil and gas company.”
https://www.kwtx.com/2020/12/11/north-face-rejects-jacket-order-on-texas-oil-and-gas-company/?fbclid=IwAR0v0PN450aYgELlZJmdXO4sb5AbyuyZXatlLTegVm8J3Oe5dM6ufkCsyzw
They are a private company, it's their decision. Rather than throw a public fit, go find another company to put the logo on. I hear Carhartt supports the working person.
A quick Google of North Face Brand Standards and this was the first hit:
https://www.sanmar.com/tnfbrandguidelines
Petroleum industry could stop selling to the fabric industry which would roughly end nylon/polyester fabric and probably half or more of TNF's products.
Stupid. Where do they think they get their plastics from?
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ditto the plastics and other materials including delivery etc...
they make products using petroleum based material !
woke is going to destroy so much sadly
would be good if all the gas and energy companies got together and banned them from buying any fuel or products needed for anything they do :)
PracticalRifleman
02-20-21, 14:51
Man, I hope their nylon is oil-free and their products and raw materials are shipped without the aide of the gas and oil industry.
I wager they support the industry more than their tiny little jacket order would have. Rot in hell, Northface.
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So a bake shop can't refuse to sell a wedding cake to gay couple but these cucks get to discriminate against oil workers. I'll bet my last dollar that some of the oil workers are gay. Maybe even people of color. Sounds like a discrimination suit to me. No wait... They would probably have trouble finding a judge to here the case. The country is as ****ed up as a can of worms!
Stupid. Where do they think they get their plastics from?
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China or in the case of my North Face jacket, Jordan. I guarantee the people in charge of branding neither know or care how any raw material is used in their clothing.
I would boycot them, but any North Face stuff I have came from the unclaimed baggage store (secondary market).
Hell, shame on the oil and gas industry for buying anything from them in the first place.
So they wouldn't sell jackets to female porn stars? That's just wrong.
I don't own one single north face product, just because they are at least twice as much as a no name product from Kohl's, Costco or other big box retailer.
There was something with North Face a few years ago about this of Soldier Systems.
https://soldiersystems.net/2017/10/05/the-north-face-doesnt-want-your-firearms-business-logo-on-their-clothing/
FromMyColdDeadHand
02-20-21, 16:30
They are a private company, it's their decision. Rather than throw a public fit, go find another company to put the logo on. I hear Carhartt supports the working person.
A quick Google of North Face Brand Standards and this was the first hit:
https://www.sanmar.com/tnfbrandguidelines
How 1950s of you. The ability to be publicly open and restrict your clientele has been over for decades.
What some neo-Nazis should do is adapt north face, under some guys of it being an allusion to some mountain peak in southern Germany. Make it that it was Hitler‘s favorite path to follow. And then just show up at a bunch of rallies in north face gear. Make a funny hand gesture or something.
TNF did them a favor, this isnt the 1960s when they made great alpine clothing, it is mostly junk marketed to teenager girls and soccer moms cruising the mall.
So they're against guns, ammo, porn, and booze? Doesn't sound like a good time at that particular company. :D
I guess if the VF corporation is offended by my money I will try very hard to appease them by not spending with any of their brands. No more Dickies or Walls for me, EVER. G. F. Y. VF !
FromMyColdDeadHand
02-20-21, 18:56
I thought you guys were joking about the porn? Peter North Facial?
No jackets may be embroidered with the "Load Warrior" name :D
What a bunch of idiots.
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TNF did them a favor, this isnt the 1960s when they made great alpine clothing, it is mostly junk marketed to teenager girls and soccer moms cruising the mall.
yup
the one thing they had a while ago that I do like or should say were good are the duffel bags but now they are not the same even for sure low quality mass produced compared with other companies these days
ViniVidivici
02-21-21, 01:07
https://i.postimg.cc/4Nwvv4TD/20171223-221447.jpg (https://postimg.cc/6y2GtXqc)
So this might piss 'em off?
I like North Face, with that being said, its a company thats run by shit heads.
The irony of a company that refuses to sell jackets made by slave labor to a oil and gas company is quite rich if I do say so myself. If an asteroid would hit NYC or LA, I would not find myself too upset about the matter.
Sounds like possibly an overeager woke NF distributor took the brand decisions into their own hands... I don't see promo companies double checking with OEMs over something so silly.
Dennis.
Man, I hope their nylon is oil-free and their products and raw materials are shipped without the aide of the gas and oil industry.
I wager they support the industry more than their tiny little jacket order would have. Rot in hell, Northface.
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I think the NF knows that their raw materials depend on oil and gas products. This is virtue signaling to know-nothing leftists and the otherwise woke crowd. Where does the NF have their products made? China maybe? But do the denizens of woke care that China pumps out tons of pollution of all kinds? Whatever pollutants the west produces we're pikers by comparison.
PracticalRifleman
02-21-21, 08:27
I think the NF knows that their raw materials depend on oil and gas products. This is virtue signaling to know-nothing leftists and the otherwise woke crowd. Where does the NF have their products made? China maybe? But do the denizens of woke care that China pumps out tons of pollution of all kinds? Whatever pollutants the west produces we're pikers by comparison.
Of course, that was the point I was making.
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May I steal that, and see if I can annoy them?
https://i.postimg.cc/4Nwvv4TD/20171223-221447.jpg (https://postimg.cc/6y2GtXqc)
So this might piss 'em off?
Sounds like possibly an overeager woke NF distributor took the brand decisions into their own hands... I don't see promo companies double checking with OEMs over something so silly.
Dennis.
Completely agree. Most embroidery is done by a third party partner before delivery. Seems like if TNF was going to make this decision (which would be a million meetings inside of a company the size of VF corporation) it would have made a much bigger deal about it from a PR / marketing standpoint vs no comment. Seems like Innovex is using this to get their name out there.
yup the one thing they had a while ago that I do like or should say were good are the duffel bags but now they are not the same even for sure low quality mass produced compared with other companies these days
The Base Camp duffels have been GTG for awhile. Much change with newer production?
Lots of companies making those to various durability. I have a bunch of Eagle Creek, Gregory, and Osprey duffels I like.
Grand58742
02-21-21, 11:15
As someone stated, another company will pick up the slack where TNF decided they are too good for them. This is a big opportunity for someone like Carhartt as mentioned before to step in and fill the void. Plus, they have a "Made in the USA" line that should appeal to an American industry.
I would have said Dickies, but they outsourced all their manufacturing a few years ago.
Anyway, a lot of the "outdoor" gear is more in tune with a fashion statement than anything. North Face, Patagonia and others tend to have a "bargain" line (though still overpriced for what you get) for regular consumers and a niche upper end line that appeals to serious outdoor people.
PracticalRifleman
02-21-21, 11:22
As someone stated, another company will pick up the slack where TNF decided they are too good for them. This is a big opportunity for someone like Carhartt as mentioned before to step in and fill the void. Plus, they have a "Made in the USA" line that should appeal to an American industry.
I would have said Dickies, but they outsourced all their manufacturing a few years ago.
Anyway, a lot of the "outdoor" gear is more in tune with a fashion statement than anything. North Face, Patagonia and others tend to have a "bargain" line (though still overpriced for what you get) for regular consumers and a niche upper end line that appeals to serious outdoor people.
Dickies and North Face are owned by the same company.
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Carhartt, Berne, Deluth,... who else is still making stuff here?
The Base Camp duffels have been GTG for awhile. Much change with newer production?
Lots of companies making those to various durability. I have a bunch of Eagle Creek, Gregory, and Osprey duffels I like.
the latest ones some saying are failing after a bit of use seems about 3 years or so ago with the design change forgot exact time frame
I do like some of the more recent design bags with roll tops or better zippers and some of the new tech fabrics are so good :)
love osprey stuff
I am getting into sewing for the reason to make some of my own gear with my own spec stuff so many good cottage industry makers these days and so many reasonable price alternatives like you mentioned to but for my own use buying fabric from places like rip stop by the roll and learning the sewing is fun
I'm so over the cancel culture... Especially when you rely of the product that you decide you aren't selling your apparel to in the end...lol
I'm so over the cancel culture... Especially when you rely of the product that you decide you aren't selling your apparel to in the end...lol
Cancel culture can work both ways. I ain't gonna spend my life background checking every purchase, but all VF brands are off my list. Never was a fan of TNF fancyboi crap, but I buy a lot of FR and other work wear. If they are happy to go public saying they don't want my money then I am happy to oblige.
ETA: Bulwark is not gonna be getting my company's next order of FR coveralls. I'm a small fish, but I can talk a lot of shit to the bigger fish.
ViniVidivici
02-21-21, 14:07
May I steal that, and see if I can annoy them?
I would be honored.
Carhartt, Berne, Deluth,... who else is still making stuff here?
I buddy of mine is an AF pararescueman. He told me that they use a lot of Crye and Arc'teryx (Canadian), but there's another vendor out on the west coast that makes US-made, high-end clothing (tactical and not), called 'Beyond.' (His word is "dope"...ah, kids these days...).
Also US-made: Outdoor Research and Filson....
Just to clarify as it has popped up a few times in this thread. Outdoor Research tactical line is made in the US for Berry compliance. All their other clothing is made overseas.
Averageman
02-22-21, 09:31
I'm so over the cancel culture... Especially when you rely of the product that you decide you aren't selling your apparel to in the end...lol
Coca-Cola just asked it's white employee's to be "Less White".
https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/economics/coca-cola-confirms-training-employees-try-to-be-less-white
Coca-Cola, facing mounting backlash from conservatives online, has responded to allegations of anti-white rhetoric after an internal whistleblower leaked screenshots of diversity training materials that encourages staff to "try to be less white."
A Coca-Cola spokesperson confirmed that the course is "part of a learning plan to help build an inclusive workplace," but also noted that "the video circulating on social media is from a publicly available LinkedIn Learning series and is not a focus of our company's curriculum."
Coca-Cola just asked it's white employee's to be "Less White".
https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/economics/coca-cola-confirms-training-employees-try-to-be-less-white
Coca-Cola, facing mounting backlash from conservatives online, has responded to allegations of anti-white rhetoric after an internal whistleblower leaked screenshots of diversity training materials that encourages staff to "try to be less white."
A Coca-Cola spokesperson confirmed that the course is "part of a learning plan to help build an inclusive workplace," but also noted that "the video circulating on social media is from a publicly available LinkedIn Learning series and is not a focus of our company's curriculum."
Ha, whatever Coke... I've been drinking less Coke, as in none, for years. However Coke is quite diversified in it's offerings. With bottling plants all over the world bottling everything from soft drinks to water.
Averageman
02-22-21, 09:53
Ha, whatever Coke... I've been drinking less Coke, as in none, for years. However Coke is quite diversified in it's offerings. With bottling plants all over the world bottling everything from soft drinks to water.
Well, they appear to be bottling anti-white sentiment and racism. I really want someone to sue the socks off of them.
Wild Things tactical clothing, Berry compliant and US manufactured. On par or better than most others...
Carhartt, Berne, Deluth,... who else is still making stuff here?
Much of Carhartt is assembled in Mexico and other countries... gotta look at the tags
We are diminished
https://i.imgur.com/xFEKLrql.jpg65233
titsonritz
02-22-21, 16:52
May I steal that, and see if I can annoy them?
Tell 'em you used the rest of it to wipe your ass so as not to waste perfectly good Charmin during the Great TP pandemic of 2020.
Giving up profit just to make a statement about their culture and values.....incredible. I wonder if Daft Punk knows about this?
The_War_Wagon
02-22-21, 21:36
Stupid. Where do they think they get their plastics from?
Tell 'em hybrid cars are COAL-powered, and watch their heads explode. :rolleyes:
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