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WillBrink
03-05-21, 09:28
Interesting vid:

"Artist Brian Springer spent a year scouring the airwaves with a satellite dish grabbing back channel news feeds not intended for public consumption. The result of his research is SPIN, one of the most insightful films ever made about the mechanics of how television is used as a tool of social control to distort and limit the American public's perception of reality."

https://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/spin/

markm
03-05-21, 09:35
Shoot. I took weeks off of media/news propaganda and then watched out of the blue again recently. It's obnoxious how flagrant the brainwashing is to me. But the average mouth breather gobbles this crap up as some sort of fact.

WickedWillis
03-05-21, 13:08
I'm excited to watch this

Leuthas
03-05-21, 13:44
This is fairly tame next to what they're actively doing today - things like putting Mexican children behind a single wall "cage", making them cry, then cropping the photo and spreading it across all state-run media outlets.

The line from Larry King to Bill Clinton, 'Ted Turner would be willing to serve you... Think about it after you're elected" was precious.

WillBrink
03-05-21, 13:51
This is fairly tame next to what they're actively doing today - things like putting Mexican children behind a single wall "cage", making them cry, then cropping the photo and spreading it across all state-run media outlets.

The line from Larry King to Bill Clinton, 'Ted Turner would be willing to serve you... Think about it after you're elected" was precious.

It's far worse today for sure, but that gives some context as to origins of the modern day cluster F as the tech allowed them to reach so many people much faster and wider than before. I kept expecting to hear some real doozies "off" camera but pretty tame actually but telling as to how controlling and methodical it was, which has only gotten worse.

Leuthas
03-05-21, 14:02
It's far worse today for sure, but that gives some context as to origins of the modern day cluster F as the tech allowed them to reach so many people much faster and wider than before. I kept expecting to hear some real doozies "off" camera but pretty tame actually but telling as to how controlling and methodical it was, which has only gotten worse.

It's goes as far back as anyone can care to look, too. Merely one person's opinion as example:


1. "The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. He who reads nothing will still learn the great facts, and the details are all false." ~Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, 1807

2. "I deplore... the putrid state into which our newspapers have passed and the malignity, the vulgarity, and mendacious spirit of those who write for them... These ordure’s are rapidly depraving the public taste and lessening its relish for sound food. As vehicles of information and a curb on our functionaries, they have rendered themselves useless by forfeiting all title to belief... This has, in a great degree, been produced by the violence and malignity of party spirit." ~Thomas Jefferson to Walter Jones, 1814

3. "As for what is not true, you will always find abundance in the newspapers." Thomas Jefferson to Barnabas Bidwell, 1806

4."Advertisements... contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper." ~Thomas Jefferson to Nathaniel Macon, 1819

5. "Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle." ~Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, June 11, 1807

The religious adherence to the words of 'journalistic' corporations by the general public is sad. It's systemic too; just look at the spin and misinformation played as fact on wikipedia - it has nothing to do with relatively open-source editing and everything to do with the fact that nearly any media outlet or editorial can be used as a citation or source of reliable information.

WillBrink
03-05-21, 14:41
It's goes as far back as anyone can care to look, too. Merely one person's opinion as example:


1. "The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. He who reads nothing will still learn the great facts, and the details are all false." ~Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, 1807

2. "I deplore... the putrid state into which our newspapers have passed and the malignity, the vulgarity, and mendacious spirit of those who write for them... These ordure’s are rapidly depraving the public taste and lessening its relish for sound food. As vehicles of information and a curb on our functionaries, they have rendered themselves useless by forfeiting all title to belief... This has, in a great degree, been produced by the violence and malignity of party spirit." ~Thomas Jefferson to Walter Jones, 1814

3. "As for what is not true, you will always find abundance in the newspapers." Thomas Jefferson to Barnabas Bidwell, 1806

4."Advertisements... contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper." ~Thomas Jefferson to Nathaniel Macon, 1819

5. "Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle." ~Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, June 11, 1807

The religious adherence to the words of 'journalistic' corporations by the general public is sad. It's systemic too; just look at the spin and misinformation played as fact on wikipedia - it has nothing to do with relatively open-source editing and everything to do with the fact that nearly any media outlet or editorial can be used as a citation or source of reliable information.


Not referring to spin, but the levels it has gotten to at the rate it now travels and the numbers it can hit. Political spin and BS has existed as long as humans have. What's LOL worthy is people thinking the mud slinging stuff is new, and politics was a more polite thing in the past. This one is a classic:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/08/james-callender-the-attack-dog-who-took-aim-at-alexander-hamilton-and-thomas-jefferson.html

Leuthas
03-05-21, 20:47
Not referring to spin, but the levels it has gotten to at the rate it now travels and the numbers it can hit. Political spin and BS has existed as long as humans have. What's LOL worthy is people thinking the mud slinging stuff is new, and politics was a more polite thing in the past. This one is a classic:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2016/08/james-callender-the-attack-dog-who-took-aim-at-alexander-hamilton-and-thomas-jefferson.html

I think Callender was the guy that fabricated the story about Jefferson sleeping with his slaves - which people believe to this day.

SteyrAUG
03-05-21, 23:08
I think Callender was the guy that fabricated the story about Jefferson sleeping with his slaves - which people believe to this day.

DNA results suggest it's true in at least one case.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jefferson/true/

donlapalma
03-06-21, 08:17
I've tuned out traditional mainstream media and my life / happiness has improved dramatically.

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WillBrink
03-06-21, 09:04
I think Callender was the guy that fabricated the story about Jefferson sleeping with his slaves - which people believe to this day.

He also called him a hermaphrodite.

ChattanoogaPhil
03-06-21, 14:15
Nearly a century ago... much of the press obliged FDR's request not to photograph him in his wheelchair or other assisted positions. However, those who defied such requests would have their cameras seized and film destroyed by the Secret Service. Are things worse or better today? Sometimes I hear gun owners say how terrible things are today... then I remember how draconian gun carry laws used to be not so long ago.

Like most things, we tend to romanticize the past but it's usually a more complicated picture.