Brownells Website Concern

[tgizzard]

*Disclaimer - This is my opinion after piecing my purchases together after two fraud attempts on my cc.

Just want to give a general heads up. I’ve had two fraud attempts on my cc in the past three months and both attempts followed directly after completing a purchase on Brownells website. I closed the cc card both times after disputing / reporting the fraud purchases on my card. Both times the purchases was for $400 amount. First time at a body building website (the bank actually flagged that one, they know i’m not going there [emoji38]) the latest attempt was made at Walmart. I had to call and dispute that one myself - even though I’ve never purchased something online from there.

I’m not posting this to bash Brownells, more a general information post. If you’ve made a purchases recently from there, check the card you used to make sure you don’t have any surprises in there.

I’ve sent Brownells a message giving them a heads up as well.


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[ABNAK]

CC fraud royally pisses me. I've had it (no exaggeration) like 12 or 13 times in the last 15 years or so. It's a PIA, 'cause any auto-deductions (Hughes Net, Amazon Prime, Netflix, my gym, etc.) have to be changed to the new card and it never fails to happen before something like a long weekend or a vacation. The last one was on my debit card a couple weeks ago during that Arctic bullshit when everything was moving s-l-o-w. The bank sent it 2nd Day UPS and it took a WEEK!!! Have you tried catching a freaking bank open lately other than a drive-thru stacked with cars? Of course no ATM without it.

I would like to take the slimy POS who scam CC's (and the ones who actually use them) and tie them to a chair. Then tie their hands to a table. I would then take great pleasure at breaking every g-damn one of their fingers---one at a time---with a ballpeen hammer. Slowly. Let the pain sink in and listen to them scream in agony. And yes, I f*****g mean it. :mad::mad::mad:

[duece71]

I have purchased plenty from Brownells and haven’t seen any problems. Thanks for the heads up though. ����

[Gabriel556]

Tgizzard, I have to ask because I’ve been through that as well. What kind of device did you use to make the online purchase? Are you 100% positive you don’t have a key stroke recording software installed (like a virus)? My wife works in IT and would suggest looking into that.

I feel for you. That’s happened to me too, once with purchases that made my wife question what I was doing when I was supposedly out of town working..... no I wasn’t at a south side strip club and no I didn’t buy $240 worth of fried chicken across the street.

[Diamondback]

CC fraud royally pisses me. I've had it (no exaggeration) like 12 or 13 times in the last 15 years or so. It's a PIA, 'cause any auto-deductions (Hughes Net, Amazon Prime, Netflix, my gym, etc.) have to be changed to the new card and it never fails to happen before something like a long weekend or a vacation. The last one was on my debit card a couple weeks ago during that Arctic bullshit when everything was moving s-l-o-w. The bank sent it 2nd Day UPS and it took a WEEK!!! Have you tried catching a freaking bank open lately other than a drive-thru stacked with cars? Of course no ATM without it.

I would like to take the slimy POS who scam CC's (and the ones who actually use them) and tie them to a chair. Then tie their hands to a table. I would then take great pleasure at breaking every g-damn one of their fingers---one at a time---with a ballpeen hammer. Slowly. Let the pain sink in and listen to them scream in agony. And yes, I f*****g mean it. :mad::mad::mad:

You're merciful. I'd start at toes then progress to fingers, one phalange bone at a time... I got popped once after an order from CAA and again with GunMagWarehouse.

[tgizzard]

Tgizzard, I have to ask because I’ve been through that as well. What kind of device did you use to make the online purchase? Are you 100% positive you don’t have a key stroke recording software installed (like a virus)? My wife works in IT and would suggest looking into that.

I feel for you. That’s happened to me too, once with purchases that made my wife question what I was doing when I was supposedly out of town working..... no I wasn’t at a south side strip club and no I didn’t buy $240 worth of fried chicken across the street.

So I thought about that, but the thing is it’s only happened twice and both times the day after I made an online purchase from Brownells. Like I said I wrote them to let them know. They replied and just said “thanks, we’ll look into it”. It could be just a coincidence, but twice makes me wonder.

But I use a Mac and I run a VPN. That’s the family computer, so no, no risky sites are being accessed on that machine.

Lucky for me the attempted purchases were tame enough that I didn’t have to convince my wife I’m not out running around [emoji854]


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[TAZ]

That stinks. I’d like to see scammers get treated like pirates of old. No bag limit.

Thanks for the heads up. I have a slide on BO with them so I’ll have to see what happens if they ever ship and charge my card.

[signal4l]

The credit card companies could tell you exactly how many fraudulent purchases were made with credit card numbers used at Brownells. They could also give you the IP addresses used to make those purchases. They never disclose this information without a subpoena. They wait for us to figure it out. I blame them as much as the fraudsters. They choose convenience over security.

We all rely on credit cards. Having your main one compromised is a colossal pain in the balls. Credit card holders should have the option of using a two-part authentication process. Text me a code and I'll authorize payment. This would slow down things a bit but would secure our cards

[ABNAK]

The credit card companies could tell you exactly how many fraudulent purchases were made with credit card numbers used at Brownells. They could also give you the IP addresses used to make those purchases. They never disclose this information without a subpoena. They wait for us to figure it out. I blame them as much as the fraudsters. They choose convenience over security.

We all rely on credit cards. Having your main one compromised is a colossal pain in the balls. Credit card holders should have the option of using a two-part authentication process. Text me a code and I'll authorize payment. This would slow down things a bit but would secure our cards

Problem is it doesn't seem like they even have a desire to go after the scumbags. One on of the many occasions I was talking to the fraud department of my CC I was like "Why don't you guys go after them?" The guy laughed! Hell, twice it happened was for purchases at gas stations.....they have cameras at gas stations! WTF? You could get a date/time and pic of the dirtball as well as license plate number. But no, we'll just write it off.

Buddy of mine's stepdaughter had fraud and they actually caught the scum because it was local. Some Mexican chick with a kid, had bought a TV with the stepdaughter's card info. The freaking prosecutor asked the stepdaughter if she just wanted to drop the charges because the scum had a kid and sending her to jail could be bad for the family!!! Can you believe that shit? I would have told the DA "You WILL throw the book at that bitch and I don't give a damn if her little nino starves to death.....THEN once jail is done send both their sorry asses back across the border!" Of course we know NONE of that would take place, but one can always hope!

[Dukr]

I think they could easily allow 2 factor authentication for online purchases, if they wanted. For in-store purchases your ID should be checked. I don't remember the last time any store did that.

[ABNAK]

I think they could easily allow 2 factor authentication for online purchases, if they wanted. For in-store purchases your ID should be checked. I don't remember the last time any store did that.

I get how a card's info can be used fraudulently over the phone or online, but how do you do it at some place like a gas station or other in-person purchase? I would almost think the store's employees would have to be in on it.

[Gabriel556]

Skimmers. It’s a device that can be placed over the card readers where the customer swipes/inserts the card. It happens all the time. They can be super thin overlays that you really have to look for.

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[flenna]

Problem is it doesn't seem like they even have a desire to go after the scumbags. One on of the many occasions I was talking to the fraud department of my CC I was like "Why don't you guys go after them?" The guy laughed! Hell, twice it happened was for purchases at gas stations.....they have cameras at gas stations! WTF? You could get a date/time and pic of the dirtball as well as license plate number. But no, we'll just write it off.

Buddy of mine's stepdaughter had fraud and they actually caught the scum because it was local. Some Mexican chick with a kid, had bought a TV with the stepdaughter's card info. The freaking prosecutor asked the stepdaughter if she just wanted to drop the charges because the scum had a kid and sending her to jail could be bad for the family!!! Can you believe that shit? I would have told the DA "You WILL throw the book at that bitch and I don't give a damn if her little nino starves to death.....THEN once jail is done send both their sorry asses back across the border!" Of course we know NONE of that would take place, but one can always hope!

A few years ago I noticed a $10 charge on my credit card from someplace in NY. I called my CC company and reported it as fraudulent. While on the phone I asked the rep if they are going to go after them and he was like "for $10? Absolutely not, waste of time". So I did a little web research and found out that person/company has been doing that to many, many people for several years. They were stealing thousand upon thousands of dollars knowing that the credit card companies wouldn't pursue them for "$10" .

[ABNAK]

A few years ago I noticed a $10 charge on my credit card from someplace in NY. I called my CC company and reported it as fraudulent. While on the phone I asked the rep if they are going to go after them and he was like "for $10? Absolutely not, waste of time". So I did a little web research and found out that person/company has been doing that to many, many people for several years. They were stealing thousand upon thousands of dollars knowing that the credit card companies wouldn't pursue them for "$10" .

Yeah but more often than not a small purchase like $10 is a "feeler" to see if they get shut down; if not then they pop a much bigger purchase.