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Please assess my Brn-180 before the Brownells, proper lower comes in and I apply the folding stock. PSA Gremlin rollmarked lower, all Geisselle internals, Geisselle mag catch and G-trigger, Aero Precision Lower parts kit, absolute cowitness Scalarworks and "military grade" Holosun dual power MRD and fixed front and back iron sights, the rear is elevation and windage adjustable and co-witnessed optic.
I will be changing to all black furniture, a Zhukov or classic Ar180 folding buttstock, Brownells Brn pistol grip and grey Okay mags with the BrN-180 lower.
Should I go old school with iron sights only and an ar180 replica folding buttstock?
My AR15 home defense rifle is a PSA lower, SS polished milspec trigger, Aero lower parts kit, B5, SL grip, PSA 14.5 pinned and welded to 16.1, Streamlight and Holosun dual power on a cowitness Scalarworks.
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10 years in the Outback and out of focus with new products...bear with me.
I really like them, and as long as they run reliable and your happy that is what is #1
As far as going old school with your BRN-180 I like shooting with Iron's only but I will also have a Red Dot or LPVO on a QD mount so I can use it for a backup to all my other backups. 🤣
Cool rifles, hope ya get years of enjoyment outta them!
I’d add a sling for retention. Also, I’m not saying you haven’t, but...training.
I’d add a sling for retention. Also, I’m not saying you haven’t, but...training.I chose not to put a sling on a HDR to not get tangled up in one and to keep it as slick as possible, even without folding BUIS.
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10 years in the Outback and out of focus with new products...bear with me.
If ya have the time and a extra sling, try using Ranger bands to hold the sling down, that will keep it slick while still having the option of slinging the rifle just encase.
I also get the idea of without a sling, stuff can get hung up but give it a shot. I have a couple extra Ranger bands if you wanted to try it I could drop in the mail for ya.
I really like them, and as long as they run reliable and your happy that is what is #1
As far as going old school with your BRN-180 I like shooting with Iron's only but I will also have a Red Dot or LPVO on a QD mount so I can use it for a backup to all my other backups. [emoji1787]
Cool rifles, hope ya get years of enjoyment outta them!Their other friends include...
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Their other friends include...
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AWESOME!!!! You have a nice collection, I really need to get myself a M1A or M14 that is one Rifle I have always wanted but for some reason never got. That needs to change.
AWESOME!!!! You have a nice collection, I really need to get myself a M1A or M14 that is one Rifle I have always wanted but for some reason never got. That needs to change.
I have ranger bands, thanks buddy! My thought on a sling on a home defense rifle is that the cops are going to be coming on their way and I don't want to have a rifle at the ready or slung when they arrive on scene. I'm going to cover any intruders or home invaders that are down while I'm on the phone with 911 and ensure 911 knows I'm armed and tell me when to put the rifle or handgun down and present myself to the police with my hands up. I don't want to live through a defensive shooting to get shot by jumpy cops.
I'm in my mid-40's, my first real love were M14's when I was 18, I joined the Army and started out with a commercial Springfield NM. If anyone remembers MKS, the guy who rewelded USGI receivers, I bought a TRW receiver and meticulously collected National Match USGI parts and cobbled together an all TRW NM and a shot 2 Camp Perry matches, I did bad compared to the rest of the competitors but I got a trophy for participation. ;-) That led to a Harrington and Richardson reweld and rebuild and several months after I took possession of my precious M14's, I came home from duty with an ATF business card on slipped thru the door sticking out. I called the agents back and they wanted those evil rewelds back, REAL BAD. I stripped them down to the receivers only and handed them over to a JAG buddy for him to hand over to the ATF. I was the talk of the company at the time and a bit of a legend because they all got their grubby hands on them and fingerfuked them.
Long story short, I still have those 2 parts kits in a storage unit in Killeen, that gives you a hint of where I was posted......along with a 35 gun safe and 45 long guns and handguns.....a BAR, RPD, RPK's, 1919A1, FAL's, G3's, several PSL's that I bought for $350 in the day and a bunch of other AK's and AR's. I'm retired in Hawaii, actually my family home and these are my long guns here. I've got 2 M1 Carbines from the last Midway Italy imports, a FM 9mm lower and the BRN lower at the FFL for me to pick up this week, this thread will be updated.
Have a good day ya'll
I have ranger bands, thanks buddy! My thought on a sling on a home defense rifle is that the cops are going to be coming on their way and I don't want to have a rifle at the ready or slung when they arrive on scene. I'm going to cover any intruders or home invaders that are down while I'm on the phone with 911 and ensure 911 knows I'm armed and tell me when to put the rifle or handgun down and present myself to the police with my hands up. I don't want to live through a defensive shooting to get shot by jumpy cops.
I'm in my mid-40's, my first real love were M14's when I was 18, I joined the Army and started out with a commercial Springfield NM. If anyone remembers MKS, the guy who rewelded USGI receivers, I bought a TRW receiver and meticulously collected National Match USGI parts and cobbled together an all TRW NM and a shot 2 Camp Perry matches, I did bad compared to the rest of the competitors but I got a trophy for participation. ;-) That led to a Harrington and Richardson reweld and rebuild and several months after I took possession of my precious M14's, I came home from duty with an ATF business card on slipped thru the door sticking out. I called the agents back and they wanted those evil rewelds back, REAL BAD. I stripped them down to the receivers only and handed them over to a JAG buddy for him to hand over to the ATF. I was the talk of the company at the time and a bit of a legend because they all got their grubby hands on them and fingerfuked them.
Long story short, I still have those 2 parts kits in a storage unit in Killeen, that gives you a hint of where I was posted......along with a 35 gun safe and 45 long guns and handguns.....a BAR, RPD, RPK's, 1919A1, FAL's, G3's, several PSL's that I bought for $350 in the day and a bunch of other AK's and AR's. I'm retired in Hawaii, actually my family home and these are my long guns here. I've got 2 M1 Carbines from the last Midway Italy imports, a FM 9mm lower and the BRN lower at the FFL for me to pick up this week, do this thread will be updated.
Have a good day ya'll!
It doesn't take long to take a sling off and set the rifle down.
There's also nothing that says you have to put the sling on in the first place.
What if your plan goes differently and the intruder(s) you are covering is between you and the cops/entryways?
What if, while you are on the phone (holding rifle, and holding phone), you need to open a door, turn on a light, pick something up, put pressure on an injury, etc? Rifle, phone, other-thing...you only have two hands something has to give.
Example idea (not my pic I do it better than this): You can use a BFG sling keeper on a padded BFG VCAS to keep the sling snug against the rifle and 100% shootable exactly as it is, or just grab the sling and pull to yank it free and put it on
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in my mind, the BRN-180 just has to have a folding stock, otherwise, what's the point? just my opinion, nothing more.
I installed a KNS picatinny adapter on my regular AR-15 lower, it goes on the back where the receiver end plate goes. Got a Sig folding stock, reversed the hinge, and the stock folds just nicely under the charging crank handle. The cheekweld feels a little low, though. The Sig stock attaches to the picatinny end plate. admittedly, kinda ugly how the reversed hinge sticks up, but oh well.
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ETA: i also bought one of those round straight charging handles from AR180.com, but it interferes with the right-side folding stock.
ETA2: the screw that attaches the Sig stock to the hinge is a Torx Plus IP27. not regular Torx.
99cobra2881
06-15-21, 07:04
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Ha now youre just showing off!! Nice collection. Very nice.
You ought to edit that and under each pic put a description of parts and pieces on each one.
Ha now youre just showing off!!
It looks like showing off toys was the goal all along.
99cobra2881
06-15-21, 12:15
Looks that way
Im getting too many myself, Ive broken from the one AR mentality that I started with. I regret it in some ways.
in my mind, the BRN-180 just has to have a folding stock, otherwise, what's the point? just my opinion, nothing more.
I installed a KNS picatinny adapter on my regular AR-15 lower, it goes on the back where the receiver end plate goes. Got a Sig folding stock, reversed the hinge, and the stock folds just nicely under the charging crank handle. The cheekweld feels a little low, though. The Sig stock attaches to the picatinny end plate. admittedly, kinda ugly how the reversed hinge sticks up, but oh well.
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ETA: i also bought one of those round straight charging handles from AR180.com, but it interferes with the right-side folding stock.I got a KNS Pic adapter and was able to mount the Zhukov stock and......it clears the charging handle nicely. I just cannot for the life of me, find my long hex set to change out the pistol grip.
These are just stop gap measured until next month when my FFL returns and I can transfer the Brownells, proper lower.
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I got a KNS Pic adapter and was able to mount the Zhukov stock and......it clears the charging handle nicely. I just cannot for the life of me, find my long hex set to change out the pistol grip.
These are just stop gap measured until next month when my FFL returns and I can transfer the Brownells, proper lower.
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@Rrotz
is that the Haga hinge? that's the best solution I've seen sofar. Zhukov stock looks good, and it's adjustable. I like to have it folding under the charging handle.
@Rrotz
is that the Haga hinge? that's the best solution I've seen sofar. Zhukov stock looks good, and it's adjustable. I like to have it folding under the charging handle.Yes, indeed it is the Haga hinge. It's definitely not fireable with the stock folded. I got the humpty SIG stock and wish I had gotten the straight line wire stock instead.
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i had the straight SIG stock, set to fold on the right side. the lower cheek weld is unwieldy, for me. I did get the Haga hinge and a Zhukov stock. looking forward to the next range session.
Renegade04
07-09-21, 21:51
in my mind, the BRN-180 just has to have a folding stock, otherwise, what's the point? just my opinion, nothing more.
I installed a KNS picatinny adapter on my regular AR-15 lower, it goes on the back where the receiver end plate goes. Got a Sig folding stock, reversed the hinge, and the stock folds just nicely under the charging crank handle. The cheekweld feels a little low, though. The Sig stock attaches to the picatinny end plate. admittedly, kinda ugly how the reversed hinge sticks up, but oh well.
https://i.imgur.com/OME7K1r.jpg
ETA: i also bought one of those round straight charging handles from AR180.com, but it interferes with the right-side folding stock.
ETA2: the screw that attaches the Sig stock to the hinge is a Torx Plus IP27. not regular Torx.
Is there a reason for having it folded to the right side and not the left? I much prefer having mine folded to the left so that stock does not interfere with the operation should I want to fire it with the stock folded.
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I did the same thing with my BRN-180S pistol build.
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Is there a reason for having it folded to the right side and not the left? I much prefer having mine folded to the left so that stock does not interfere with the operation should I want to fire it with the stock folded.
@Renegade04
I'm trying to minimize the width when it's stored. also, if folding to the left, the charging handle is trying to poke a hole through my padded soft-side gun case.
when folding to the left, you have the width of the stock, plus the width of the gun, plus the stick-out of the charging handle.
when folding to the right, you have the width of the gun, plus the width of the stock on the right side which covers the CH. it's a narrower package when stored. and the folding stock makes it a shorter package, either way.
Renegade04
07-10-21, 06:00
@Renegade04
I'm trying to minimize the width when it's stored. also, if folding to the left, the charging handle is trying to poke a hole through my padded soft-side gun case.
when folding to the left, you have the width of the stock, plus the width of the gun, plus the stick-out of the charging handle.
when folding to the right, you have the width of the gun, plus the width of the stock on the right side which covers the CH. it's a narrower package when stored. and the folding stock makes it a shorter package, either way.
Understandable.
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