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Slater
06-23-21, 10:09
So if you see ammo being sold at decent prices from the back of a semitrailer, be suspicious :D


"With over 7 million rounds of live ammunition stolen, the Attorney General’s Office (FGR) has opened up an investigation to try and track down the vehicles and trailers. The license plates of all vehicles are known and the Mexican government has requested that images and data of the stolen boxes be disseminated in the hopes of reacquiring the stolen items. As reported by Regeneration the following types and amounts of ammunition were stolen:

4 million 872 thousand high speed .22 caliber Long Rifle (LR) cartridges.
1 million 230 thousand cartridges .22 caliber LR high speed PH
295 thousand .40 caliber S&W cartridges
215 thousand .22 caliber cartridges LR super hummingbird
117 thousand .45 caliber automatic cartridges
100 thousand cartridges .38 caliber special jacketed
99,000 M 7 1/2 high speed .410 caliber cartridges
87 thousand cartridges caliber 7.62 × 51 mm 150 GN
71 mil 500 caliber .12 minishell post
25 thousand cartridges caliber .38 super auto + P
3 thousand caliber 12 minishell slug cartridges"

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2021/06/14/ammunition-stolen-guanajuato/

AndyLate
06-23-21, 10:46
If I see anyone selling cheap ammo out of a semi trailer, I will be suspicious of my tires and suspension as I load up my truck...

Crime committed in another country? Not my problem.

kerplode
06-23-21, 11:18
If I see anyone selling cheap ammo out of a semi trailer, I will be suspicious of my tires and suspension as I load up my truck...

lol! You and me both, brother!

gaijin
06-23-21, 11:44
Sounds organized. Betting Cartel at work.

Jellybean
06-23-21, 12:27
https://scaledynamix.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/takemymoney.jpg

:laugh:

I mean, damn they sure wanted all that .22 ammo.... does this constitute 'intent to sell across border in USA"?
Where's a reverse Op Fast & Furious when you need it... OH, those horrid cartel guns and ammo flooding over the border... :rolleyes:

Slater
06-23-21, 12:29
If they offered it for sale at the next Crossroads Gun Show at low prices, it would probably be sold out by the end of the day.

FromMyColdDeadHand
06-23-21, 12:37
According to my calculations, That is something like almost 350 ft.³ of just high speed 22 ammo. That is still only about 1/10 of a tractor trailer load, at least by volume. Could you even fill a semi with ammo without going over weight limits.?

opngrnd
06-23-21, 12:55
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opngrnd
06-23-21, 12:57
According to my calculations, That is something like almost 350 ft.³ of just high speed 22 ammo. That is still only about 1/10 of a tractor trailer load, at least by volume. Could you even fill a semi with ammo without going over weight limits.?

Someone needs to try and find out!

Slater
06-23-21, 13:39
You'd have to know how much ammo Aquila puts on a pallet, and I'm guessing the pallets aren't double stacked. Into a (presumably) 53 foot trailer with an internal width of approximately 96 inches.

kerplode
06-23-21, 13:46
From some quick googling...

A 53' trailer has an internal volume of 3489 cu-ft.
A 50-cal ammo can with exterior dimensions of 11x7x5.5" has a volume of 423.5 cu-in, or 0.254 cu-ft.

So, you could cram 14,236 50cal cans in a 53' trailer.

The average "full" 50 cal can weight about 35lbs (I recently weighed a bunch for reasons...) => A "full" trailer load of "full" 50cal cans is 498,260 pounds!

Slater
06-23-21, 13:48
I would think that most or all of this ammo would be in cardboard packaging, or similar.

kerplode
06-23-21, 13:53
Yeah, of course.

But a 50cal can is something that has sort of universal dimensions, and I had a fair idea of how much one weights on average due to reasons, so it was an easy way to get to a number for how much a trailer "full" of ammo would weight.

In reality, there were probably one or two pallets of boxes in the middle of a mostly empty trailer. Obviously you couldn't "fill" one...

ChattanoogaPhil
06-23-21, 14:27
According to my calculations, That is something like almost 350 ft.³ of just high speed 22 ammo. That is still only about 1/10 of a tractor trailer load, at least by volume. Could you even fill a semi with ammo without going over weight limits.?

Figure .22 at 7lbs/1k. They reported 6m rounds = 42k pounds which is near max weight.

Slater
06-23-21, 15:22
This was split between two trucks, although we don't know how much was in each.

Whiskey_Bravo
06-23-21, 15:36
According to my calculations, That is something like almost 350 ft.³ of just high speed 22 ammo. That is still only about 1/10 of a tractor trailer load, at least by volume. Could you even fill a semi with ammo without going over weight limits.?

The article says 2 tractor trailers were stolen. With that being said, this was in Mexico. Do they worry about weights there?

pag23
06-23-21, 19:14
Sounds organized. Betting Cartel at work.

22LR for suppressors.....assassinations being planned....hmmm

JoshNC
06-23-21, 20:17
Probably an inside informant within Anguilla working for a cartel.

Bubba FAL
06-25-21, 21:32
Guanajuato... yep bet it's cartel related. I have several colleagues from that area and they all talk about cartel activity there.