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So dovetailing off of Steyrs thread on movies..
What is your opinion of this clip from the movie Blackhat...that US Marshall goes to town with his Springfield Armory...
https://youtu.be/ngRthItc3Yc
His weapon manipulation looked OK. See last comment......
His total lack of using cover, up against multiple assailants using subguns- was suicide.
But hey- it’s Hollywood.
i watched the clip again. The opening scene, where's he's hanging out of window being a bigger target and returning fire- it appears his support hand thumb is wrapped around his firing hand thumb, rather than forward/alongside of Dustcover.
Having witnessed this several times, he will have a substantial laceration from the slide ripping into his thumb. Guess it's OK though, he's dead in the next 30 seconds.
Business_Casual
09-25-21, 06:42
Way of the Gun.
Way of the Gun.
^^^^ The weapons handling was spot on.
Inkslinger
09-25-21, 07:46
Jim Zubiena in Miami Vice
https://youtu.be/fXv8IepBVJQ
gunnerblue
09-25-21, 07:47
Whenever I think of 1911's in movies, Last Man Standing comes to mind. I haven't seen it in a while, though, so I don't remember how accurate it was.
Of course, there are always Sly's lightning fast reloads in The Expendables, as well.
Straight Shooter
09-25-21, 08:36
Jim Zubiena in Miami Vice
https://youtu.be/fXv8IepBVJQ
Damn straight. We talked a couple weeks back on here about that scene. It influenced me hugely.
Way of the Gun was enjoyable..but damn, they WASTED so much ammo as to be ridiculous. Just kept on shooting & shooting at nothing most of the time.
I fully understand cover fire, but they just went nuts.
FromMyColdDeadHand
09-25-21, 09:06
Way of the Gun.
^^^^ The weapons handling was spot on.
Yep. Saw the thread title and it was my first thought.
“ I can promise you a day of reckoning you won't live long enough to never forget.” Joe Sarno
That is near biblical, like Walk in the Valley of death stuff
There was one scene in Extreme Prejudice that was fairly decent, particularly for late 80's cinematography:
https://youtu.be/x4AbAiEHk0k
The rest of the movie was meh.
The frequent error when the 1911 shows up on screen is that the hammer is often visibly at rest rather than cocked. I don't know if the props are rubber-ducks that were molded that way, or if the technical staff is not paying attention.
ViniVidivici
09-25-21, 13:13
Deniro's character (Sam, I think) in "Ronin".
The Miami Vice scene hands down.
For sentimental reasons, I always liked this one. Simple but effective.
https://youtu.be/a2VQIxE472A
Ahhh, the good ole days; when it was OK to kill a Commie on TV.
Thief: James Caan studied at Gunsite
https://youtu.be/htawoJODHA8
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His weapon manipulation looked OK. See last comment......
His total lack of using cover, up against multiple assailants using subguns- was suicide.
But hey- it’s Hollywood.
i watched the clip again. The opening scene, where's he's hanging out of window being a bigger target and returning fire- it appears his support hand thumb is wrapped around his firing hand thumb, rather than forward/alongside of Dustcover.
Having witnessed this several times, he will have a substantial laceration from the slide ripping into his thumb. Guess it's OK though, he's dead in the next 30 seconds.
I will never watch that scene the same again when reading your commentary....great observations
The Miami Vice scene hands down.
For sentimental reasons, I always liked this one. Simple but effective.
https://youtu.be/a2VQIxE472A
Yep and yep.
A few of the Steven Segal movies. He even reloads.
I like this thread and the observations. I've got to add one that stands out, not for accuracy, but for real life for the military for many. The end scene on Saving Private Ryan always resonated with me.
Several scenes in Public Enemies.
titsonritz
09-25-21, 20:26
Plenty of 1911 action in "The Wild Bunch", "The Last Man Standing", too.
ViniVidivici
09-25-21, 23:17
Hell if we're just talking great scenes, how about Gary Gordon's last stand inside the bird in "Blackhawk Down".
Hell if we're just talking great scenes, how about Gary Gordon's last stand inside the bird in "Blackhawk Down".
Sadly there don't seem to be many movies devoted to 1911 gunfights and usage. The closest is probably "Thief" and even that went only so far. Most modern gunfights on film usually involve Sigs and Glocks, which is kind of a shame given that modern pistolcraft was from the Cooper school and he was definitely a 1911 devotee. It just never really transitioned to film so the one episode of Vice and some film highlights are all we really get.
It isn't too late, you could easily do a film like "Miller's Crossing" and focus on 1911s rather than Thompsons. Road to Perdition had a few brief exchanges.
WillieThom
09-26-21, 02:29
Deniro's character (Sam, I think) in "Ronin".
You’re great in the locker room pal, and your reflexes may die hard, but you’re weak when you put your spikes on.
Defaultmp3
09-26-21, 04:02
Hell if we're just talking great scenes, how about Gary Gordon's last stand inside the bird in "Blackhawk Down".Related, the actor that played Randy Shughart, Johnny Strong, stars in Sinners and Saints, in which he uses a Springfield Armory TRP Operator as his primary sidearm. Also has Kim Coates in that movie for a bit, who played the character that was based on Tim "Griz" Martin in Blackhawk Down. It's not exactly a great movie, but it's pretty decent mindless action, I was entertained by it. Also has Sonny Puzikas in it, for whatever that's worth.
How about Sam Elliott using one in "We Were Soldiers"
Gentlemen prepare to defend yourselves...
https://youtu.be/S9JwrV0t0Qs
Not for action or gun handling but Mare of East Town has a bad guy with a colt m45a1 which is a really interesting choice. I’m guessing the tech director is colt or 1911 fan.
Found this thread on 1911 forum with pics
https://www.1911forum.com/threads/mare-of-easttown-colts.1033592/
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Bruce unloading both guns as quickly as possible in each firing sequence certainly is flashy, but his reloading left a lot to be desired. Cool movie though.
Whenever I think of 1911's in movies, Last Man Standing comes to mind. I haven't seen it in a while, though, so I don't remember how accurate it was.
daddyusmaximus
09-26-21, 20:36
Bruce unloading both guns as quickly as possible in each firing sequence certainly is flashy, but his reloading left a lot to be desired. Cool movie though.
That's kinda what's accurate about it. The average shooter these days, and certainly back then, doesn't practice doing reloads as much as they do the shooting itself. Same applies for other drills like fixing a stoppage, shooting from the off hand...
Love that movie. It holds a special place in my heart. My father-in-law and I went to see it the night before my son was born. They couldn't take him that night because my wife had ate supper, and they could do the anesthesia... so my wife lay in the hospital with her mom visiting, and we went to the movies... lol.
Bruce unloading both guns as quickly as possible in each firing sequence certainly is flashy, but his reloading left a lot to be desired. Cool movie though.
Having both hands full complicates the technique a bit.
Where -did- he keep the 20 magazines though......:D
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