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Buckaroo
12-12-08, 18:07
New Recruiting plan? What happens when they return to the USA? Will they be on a watch list or will the waltz right back in...?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/12/12/minneapolis.somalis/index.html

MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota (CNN) -- Last month, 17-year-old Burhan Hassan told his family he was catching a ride to school with a friend. He then vanished.

His mother spoke to her son just a few days ago over the phone. To her shock, she says, he told her he was no longer in the United States.

"Mom, I'm in Somalia! Don't worry about me; I'm OK," the mother quoted her son as saying.

Details of how he got there and what has transpired in his life since his November disappearance are sketchy. His mother, who agreed to be identified only as Amina, says her son has clearly changed.

"He was different," she said of his attitude on the phone. VideoWatch a report on missing Somalis »

Hassan is one of more than a dozen young men of Somali descent -- many U.S. citizens -- to have disappeared from Minneapolis over the past six months, according to federal law enforcement authorities. Authorities say young men have also disappeared in Boston, Massachusetts; Portland, Maine; and Columbus, Ohio.

"A number of young Somali men have traveled from throughout the United States to include Minneapolis to Somalia, potentially to fight," said FBI Special Agent E.K. Wilson.

Amina speaks about her son in the past tense, almost as if he were dead. She worries about him night and day.

"Now that he's gone, I can't sleep," she said. VideoWatch Amina talk about her son »

The fear among the Somali community in Minneapolis is that their young men are being preyed upon and recruited to fight jihad, or holy war, in Somalia. Some have even called to tell their parents not to look for them.

"Those I talked to were completely shocked and dismayed as to what happened. They were completely in disbelief," said Omar Jamal of the Somali Justice Advocacy Center, based in St. Paul, Minnesota.

The shock is magnified by what happened to one of them: Authorities say a 27-year-old named Shirwa Ahmed blew himself up in an apparent suicide bombing in northern Somalia in October.

Amina doesn't like to think about that and refuses to believe that her son could be learning similar tactics.

She and her son lived in an apartment along the Mississippi River in a thriving Somali neighborhood in Minneapolis. Hassan's father died years ago, and she raised him as a single parent. Hassan's other siblings have all moved out.

"I'm feeling empty tonight, like I have [nothing]," she said.

Amina says she now forgets to cook. It's gotten so bad that when she's out shopping, she'll often feel that her son is back home again. She'll quickly return, only to remember he's still away.

She struggles when she recalls how smart he is and how he was studying to become a doctor. Holding up a copy of his high school class schedule, which includes Advanced Placement courses in mathematics, chemistry and biology, she says Hassan was to graduate in May.

He wanted to attend college in Arizona, and he wanted her to move there with him.

"He was planning to be a physician assistant. He told me to move ... to Arizona because he said in Arizona, we can get [those jobs] as soon as possible after graduating," she said. "His expectations were high."

She added, "He doesn't like to fight. Sometimes, he was a comedian. He likes to laugh or to say things that make you laugh. He was a very kind person."

Amina says her son has called a few times, most recently Saturday. She says that each time, it feels as if her son is being watched or listened to by at least one or two other men, because she can hear other voices in the background.

"It's like a kidnapped person. And he has no freedom, because if he said, 'Mom, I have to leave here; I have no life,' then they would kill him."

The question that plagues Amina and just about everyone in Minneapolis' Somali community is: How could these young men who were well-educated and who stayed out of trouble in the United States wind up in war-torn Somalia, possibly as fighters?

In Hassan's case, his mother fled the nation when she was pregnant with him, and they eventually came to the United States to escape the country's violence. She says her son's demeanor changed a couple months before he disappeared. He became more withdrawn, and she doesn't know why.

Other local Somalis have voiced concern that, because a large number of the men missing attended the same Islamic center after school, it could have played a role.

Amina does not believe the center itself played a role but thinks there are certain people associated with it who may be involved.

On Monday, representatives of the mosque, Abubakar As-Saddique Islamic Center, held a news conference to address the issue. The mosque's attorney, Mahir Sherif, strongly denied any allegations that it is connected to the men's disappearance, saying the center "has not and will not recruit for any political cause."

"I haven't talked to any of them [since the stories came out]. I haven't seen any of them fighting," Sherif said. "I mean, I would be speculating. I'm hearing what everybody else hears."

Amina keeps hoping her son will return and that somebody in the community will come forward with more information.

"I'm asking for those who took my son or know anything about it to come forward. I'm asking you kindly to help and facilitate how to make possible to return [him]. Most sincerely."

Alpha Sierra
12-12-08, 18:30
According to my libtard friends, we have nothing to worry about the peaceful Muslims living here.

Internment camps are looking like a better idea every passing day. Alas, this nation no longer has the collective balls to ensure its survival.

BWYoda
12-12-08, 18:34
Yeah - that would be a first wouldn't it, an "Islamic Center" recruiting terrorists! Put the little bastards on a watch list along with their families and known associates and shut the bloody place down!!!!

BAC
12-13-08, 10:36
According to my libtard friends, we have nothing to worry about the peaceful Muslims living here.

Internment camps are looking like a better idea every passing day. Alas, this nation no longer has the collective balls to ensure its survival.

Try to be more un-American next time. No, really. :mad:


-B

M4tographer
12-13-08, 14:29
Sounds like Mommy is in denial. :rolleyes:

byatacko
12-13-08, 16:04
Try to be more un-American next time. No, really. :mad:


-B

Thank you.

JediMindTricks
12-13-08, 18:19
Internment camps are looking like a better idea every passing day. Alas, this nation no longer has the collective balls to ensure its survival.

You are aware the we fought fascism in WWII right?

Nathan_Bell
12-13-08, 19:05
You are aware the we fought fascism in WWII right?

Are you aware we used internment camps then as well?

Left Sig
12-13-08, 19:16
Are you aware we used internment camps then as well?

Under a Democratic administration no less!

bkb0000
12-13-08, 19:26
this is why i've said, and will say again- this isn't a "war on terror" its a war on islam.

bigshooter
12-13-08, 20:03
I live about 20 blocks from the area where this kid lives. rented a garage stall in an underground lot there for six months this last summer.

the area has quite the "community" of somali muslims.

there is a starbucks that I drive by in that neighborhood that no matter what time of day, rain or shine if the doors are open it is filled to capacity with these people. I always think to myself, don't you ****ing bums have jobs?.

guess they don't need jobs here in MN since they get state money, at my expense of course.

without a doubt there are active terror cells living within this community.

scares the living shit out of me.

I guess all I can hope for is that they pass up all the sheep and start at my place.

bring it bitches.

OldNavyGuy
12-14-08, 07:55
interesting.., very interesting, i got one of those "Christmas Letters".., yaa knoe.., the ones where your friend/relative brags about all the good things they done over the past year.., or so !

the friend who sent the letter told us about their youngest son, about 20 y.o. who went to Scotland, and the last word from him he was in New Zealand and headed for China !!

how the hell do these people do it ? i know the family is not rich and the "kid" began traveling the world at 14 as an exchange student.

Alpha Sierra
12-14-08, 08:18
this is why i've said, and will say again- this isn't a "war on terror" its a war on islam.

It should be, but this nation's castrated population will not see the obvious.

Outlander Systems
12-14-08, 13:39
As stated before, these aren't exactly the type of folks that listen to "reason". "Reasonable" to them is one world, united under Islam, with stonings, and burkahs, for all.

testudo
12-14-08, 14:34
this is why i've said, and will say again- this isn't a "war on terror" its a war on islam.

Your comment over generalizes the situation we, as a nation, are facing.

czydj
12-14-08, 15:38
Your comment over generalizes the situation we, as a nation, are facing.

Well, be more specific then! Isn't islam teaching their men, women and children to convert, enslave or eliminate all that is not islam?

bkb0000
12-14-08, 15:43
Your comment over generalizes the situation we, as a nation, are facing.

i almost agreed that i'm generalizing- i generally have no problem generalizing- but then i realized i'm actually NOT generalizing, especially not OVER generalizing. when we went to war with GERMANY, were we not at war with the GERMAN MILITARY? it was a war with JAPAN, not the "War Against the Japanese Military."

we are at war with islam. we're not going to diliberately kill civilians and non-combatants who happen to be islamic, as we try not to kill civilians and non-combatants of other nations we find ourselves at war with... but do not mistake it: we are at war with islam.

testudo
12-14-08, 16:29
Well, be more specific then! Isn't islam teaching their men, women and children to convert, enslave or eliminate all that is not islam?

If you look at the Islamic community as a whole this is not its goal. Islam is the world’s second largest religion, if they wanted to spread this message you would hear a roar; this is not the case. Besides Christens are “people of the book” to Muslims and they hold Jesus and other holy men in high regard. Mary actually appears in the text of the Koran more times than she does in the Bible.

A religious community should not be judged by fringe groups. If you want to denounce a group maybe you should figure out who you are talking about. The schools of thought in Islam are as diverse as they are in Christianity.

Religion is used, at times, as a tool to put people in motion to carry out the goals of the elite. It works even better when the people are poor and ignorant. It is unfortunate that this happens, but it does. We see this now just as we have seen it in the past. Look at the Crusades, not all Christens went off to be martyred in the quest for riches. Just as today, not all Muslims are waiting to me martyred in the name of ‘Allah.

Muslim communities have and do allow other religions to live within their communities. This is far from "eliminating all that is not Islam."


And before you spout off that I am trolling, I'll let you know that I have been at the sharp end of things. The key is I am not blinded by religious hate.

czydj
12-14-08, 16:42
If you look at the Islamic community as a whole this is not its goal.


Why are the muslim religious leaders so silent on the killing of innocents. When I see a concerted effort by "the worlds 2nd largest religion" to openly and actively denounce murder and violence, I'll start considering there may be other goals from islam.




The key is I am not blinded by religious hate.


Come up with a new cliche. "Religious hate" is just lazy, trite rehearsed rhetoric, designed to avoid addressing the truth.

testudo
12-14-08, 17:05
Well, be more specific then! Isn't islam teaching their men, women and children to convert, enslave or eliminate all that is not islam?

Your saying this is not rhetoric?

BWYoda
12-14-08, 17:20
If Islam is such a tolerant religion being maligned by the actions of a few extremists then where are all the benevolent, moderate Islamics standing against what is being done in their name?
As for the comment about the poor and uneducated being manipulated for the cause, lets not forget that many of these "Martyrs" are Doctors, University Grads and other professionals. We've seen how tolerant Islam is time and time again - calls for Jihad over books and cartoons etc. By contrast, how many of us here have been to a christian church where there were calls for us to head off and waste some Muslim ****er who had taken the Lord's name in vain?
As for "religious hate" - sign me up. I didn't fly two airliners into a ****ing skyscraper. Time for a reality check my friend!!!!!!

testudo
12-14-08, 17:34
If Islam is such a tolerant religion being maligned by the actions of a few extremists then where are all the benevolent, moderate Islamics standing against what is being done in their name?
As for the comment about the poor and uneducated being manipulated for the cause, lets not forget that many of these "Martyrs" are Doctors, University Grads and other professionals.

Yes, it is true. There are educated elite that take the cause and they are fools. I am not saying every Muslim or Christian is a good person, but a majority of them are.


We've seen how tolerant Islam is time and time again - calls for Jihad over books and cartoons etc. By contrast, how many of us here have been to a christian church where there were calls for us to head off and waste some Muslim ****er who had taken the Lord's name in vain?

It is apparent in threads like this that the mentality your describing exists.


As for "religious hate" - sign me up. I didn't fly two airliners into a ****ing skyscraper. Time for a reality check my friend!!!!!!

And neither did a million other Muslims.

chadbag
12-14-08, 17:36
It is not really a war on Islam. It is a war on militant Islam.

testudo
12-14-08, 17:45
I am done here. There are problems with organizations, whether they are religious or take other forms. People that condemn the majority of Muslims for the actions of militant sects need to remember the same can be said about Christianity. Thank Jesus, Muhammad, the Sun, whoever that most people are smart enough not not fall for this.

A-Bear680
12-14-08, 18:03
Check out " The Strongest Tribe" by Bing West. West writes about about how US troops , starting with the USMC , turned things around in much of Iraq. There's even a long letter by George Washington to B. Arnold ( before he turned traitor) about how to treat potential allies during the attempted invasion of Canada.
George Washington knew some things about winning wars. Check out General P.'s letter , too.
www.amazon.com

Just type in Bing West or The Strongest Tribe. West has been around , he knows.

Here's another good source , if you're interested in winning.

www.michaelyon-online.com

Alpha Sierra
12-14-08, 18:07
If Islam is such a tolerant religion being maligned by the actions of a few extremists then where are all the benevolent, moderate Islamics standing against what is being done in their name?
As for the comment about the poor and uneducated being manipulated for the cause, lets not forget that many of these "Martyrs" are Doctors, University Grads and other professionals. We've seen how tolerant Islam is time and time again - calls for Jihad over books and cartoons etc. By contrast, how many of us here have been to a christian church where there were calls for us to head off and waste some Muslim ****er who had taken the Lord's name in vain?
As for "religious hate" - sign me up. I didn't fly two airliners into a ****ing skyscraper. Time for a reality check my friend!!!!!!

We will never win because the attitude of the overwhelming majority of Americans does not square with reality.

I honestly do not know what it will take to wake up the self-indulgent, self-absorbed, self-deluded majority.

BWYoda
12-14-08, 18:12
It is apparent in threads like this that the mentality your describing exists.

What mentality am I describing? I'm simply comparing relative levels of tolerance.



And neither did a million other Muslims.

No they just sat back and witnessed it without a peep. Or did I miss all the Muslim demonstrations against 911 and Muslim rallies in support of the American people?

A-Bear680
12-14-08, 18:19
www.michaelyon-online.com

Click on 'Bless the Beasts and Children'.

Then ask:
Who is at war with Islam , us or AQI?

I'm glad it's not us.

bkb0000
12-14-08, 19:58
www.michaelyon-online.com

Click on 'Bless the Beasts and Children'.

Then ask:
Who is at war with Islam , us or AQI?

I'm glad it's not us.

sensory recall is an extremely powerful thing- i cannot get the stench of death out of my nose after reading that article.

JediMindTricks
12-15-08, 00:32
Are you aware we used internment camps then as well?

Yes with the Japanese. Although our motive wasn't fascist and I perceived his comments to be so. Nevertheless it doesn't make it right. When it's your turn to be rounded up and shipped off somewhere to be detained for an uncertain amount of time because you belong to a particular ethnic/cultural group, one probably won't be so understanding towards "national security". There's a fine line and it shouldn't be crossed, especially in this country, & especially in this day and age.

30 cal slut
12-15-08, 09:12
Forgive my ignorance ... but these young folks are headed over to Somalia to fight a jihad ... against who?

Us?

Are we still there?

Are they being sent to fight elsewhere?

Medicine Calf
12-15-08, 09:32
Forgive my ignorance ... but these young folks are headed over to Somalia to fight a jihad ... against who?

Us?

Are we still there?

Are they being sent to fight elsewhere?

Pipeline for suicide bombers. Next message to mom: "Heaven is a big gyp, no virgins anywhere in sight".

CarlosDJackal
12-15-08, 09:58
Wait until hussein obama shuts down Gitmo. The number of jihad recruiters is going to increase and the number who will end up in the catch-and-release program will only feed their efforts!! :rolleyes: