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Slater
12-12-08, 21:00
It's kind of hard to sort through all the gobbledygook in this document, but what's being solicitated here? Seems that they're looking for out-of-the-box ideas on the SOPMOD kit, but that's all I get from it. :


https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=be6aa1c5eebb51243b8fe7b72545ea19&tab=core&_cview=1

MisterWilson
12-12-08, 21:07
Tag for the opinions of others.

jmart
12-12-08, 22:17
It's an unfunded solicitation for concept papers, CONOPS, ideas, etc. No hw/sw. They're asking industry to think out of the box and/or introduce concepts regarding employment and sustainment of new technolgies and gadgets.

Tango Down
12-13-08, 19:45
That's correct. They are asking for white papers-

MisterWilson
12-13-08, 21:45
That's correct. They are asking for white papers-

What does that mean exactly, white papers?

LukeMacGillie
12-14-08, 10:03
This is Industry's time to sell the SOPMOD folks on their widgets.

If you have a rail mounted pocket pussy, you jump thru the hoops, brief the movers and shakers, provide samples for testing and at some point in the future you just might end up being the provider of the Mk13 Mod 0 Moral enhancement device, as part of SOPMOD Block 69 fielding, if someone else does not contest your award and derail the program for 3-5 years:D

Slater
12-14-08, 12:43
Kinda makes me wonder how we ever got by in the past without rails ;)

fabulous45s
12-18-08, 20:42
Yup, and open invitation to figure out new and cool things for weapons system. Some pretty off the wall ideas have really helped the end user.
A good example is Larue's pencil flare rig. Fits a very specialized role, but it fits that role well.

rljatl
12-19-08, 18:37
Kinda makes me wonder how we ever got by in the past without rails ;)

The same way you get along without a pocket pussy. :D

Harv
12-19-08, 19:37
Luke MacGillie


Mk13 Mod 0 Moral enhancement device
Does that come in foliage ore FDE color???;)

5.56 Psycho
12-24-08, 11:05
Improve target acquisition, day and night, 0-600m while carrying less ammo. Sounds like they need marksmanship training similar to the Marines, the EOTech 557 with 4x FTS, Rail system on the front for night vision.

To Improve the M4 with the standard issue 14.5" barrel, they need to go to a 1-in-7 twist barrel and use Black Hills 77Grain Mk 262 Mod 1 Match BTHP Ammo. A 1-in-7 18" would be ideal. Unfortunately, 55 gr. ammo in a 14.5" barrel does not provide terminal performance past 150m (my personal opinion from the sand).

They need to adopt the weapons, equipment, and ammo that Spec Ops carries. Problem is cost, production, and availability.

LukeMacGillie
12-24-08, 12:48
Improve target acquisition, day and night, 0-600m while carrying less ammo. Sounds like they need marksmanship training similar to the Marines, the EOTech 557 with 4x FTS, Rail system on the front for night vision.

To Improve the M4 with the standard issue 14.5" barrel, they need to go to a 1-in-7 twist barrel and use Black Hills 77Grain Mk 262 Mod 1 Match BTHP Ammo. A 1-in-7 18" would be ideal. Unfortunately, 55 gr. ammo in a 14.5" barrel does not provide terminal performance past 150m (my personal opinion from the sand).

They need to adopt the weapons, equipment, and ammo that Spec Ops carries. Problem is cost, production, and availability.


Your post makes the Baby Jesus Cry:(

The M4 has a 1/7 twist barrel, and "they" are already using Mk 262 Mod 1 ammo.

Can you, without GOOGLE tell us what SOPMOD means, and perhaps who the target audience for the term being discussed is for..........

MisterWilson
12-24-08, 12:58
I was waiting for that shoe to fall...

LukeMacGillie
12-24-08, 14:13
I was waiting for that shoe to fall...

LOL, and I wasnt even going to touch the midlength 1/7 or Eotech issues:rolleyes:

5.56 Psycho
12-24-08, 18:08
ZZzzzzZZZZzzz

5.56 Psycho
12-24-08, 18:13
Puke MacGimpie: You may be in the Industry, but you are not professional. Remf...

Savior 6
12-24-08, 18:34
Luke MacGillie


Does that come in foliage ore FDE color???;)

Just desert pink. ;)

LukeMacGillie
12-24-08, 19:59
Puke MacGimpie: You may be in the Industry, but you are not professional. Remf...


Merry Christmas to you. I hope Santa gives you a new screen name

Don Robison
12-24-08, 20:12
Merry Christmas to you. I hope Santa gives you a new screen name


I can see Santa renaming him shortly.



Now, I've got to get to work on that morale enhancement device to submit. You guys like blondes or brunettes:eek:

variablebinary
12-25-08, 07:43
I'm curious to see what goodies this solicitation turns up.

The Dumb Gun Collector
12-25-08, 09:37
If you have a rail mounted pocket pussy, you jump thru the hoops, brief the movers and shakers,

Umm, er, eh, soooooo where does one buy this technology?

fabulous45s
12-25-08, 18:51
Now, I've got to get to work on that morale enhancement device to submit. You guys like blondes or brunettes:eek:

Redheads

Don Robison
12-26-08, 00:12
Redheads


Those are extra;):p