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WillBrink
11-20-21, 09:02
I'm late to the party on this one. It's a "typical" Martin Scorsese movie, which is to say exceedingly well made all around as expected. The movie is based on a true story surrounding Jimmy Hoffa, with a few major plot changes of dubious accuracy based on a novel. If you like a classic Martin Scorsese mob movie, you will enjoy this one for sure. While I enjoy the genre, and view The God Father I and II are classics, I also feel like if you have seen on Martin Scorsese mob movie, you kinda seen them all. Every major actor still alive - Robert De Niro, Al Pacino, Joe Pesci etc - who has been in past Scorsese mob movies, is in this movie, and they are a lot older now. The ending is sad and depressing and reminds us at the end of the day, crime does not pay, at least not in Karma. A-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHXxVmeGQUc
Hush
11-20-21, 09:09
They should have let the internet do the CGI, check this out!
https://youtu.be/dHSTWepkp_M

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SteyrAUG
11-20-21, 15:15
I enjoyed it, but the story itself wasn't as compelling as Goodfellas or Casino. Last really good film he did was The Wolf of Wall Street.

This felt more like a reunion film than anything else.
Five_Point_Five_Six
11-20-21, 19:37
Decent movie except for the made up part about Frank Sheeran being the one that killed Hoffa.
Business_Casual
11-20-21, 20:23
The Irishman

Not men.
themonk
11-21-21, 08:40
It is a good book. Movie was ok but the CGI was not there.
Voodoochild
11-21-21, 22:16
Decent enough movie. I liked Kill the Irishman better though.
SteyrAUG
11-21-21, 23:08
Decent enough movie. I liked Kill the Irishman better though.

Different Irishman, but I agree better film.
Voodoochild
11-22-21, 07:03
Different Irishman, but I agree better film.

Yeah I'm aware they are different movies. Just that Kill the Irishman was better.
SteyrAUG
11-22-21, 17:42
Yeah I'm aware they are different movies. Just that Kill the Irishman was better.

No I mean they are about different people. The Irishman is about Hoffa, Kill the Irishman is about Danny Greene.
bp7178
11-22-21, 20:00
I didn't think it was all that great. I know people like those actors for their past roles, but they just looked stiff and old. Kind of like the story overall.
Hush
11-22-21, 20:07
I didn't think it was all that great. I know people like those actors for their past roles, but they just looked stiff and old. Kind of like the story overall.This movie should have been made 25 years ago, when everybody was in their prime.

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SteyrAUG
11-22-21, 20:35
This movie should have been made 25 years ago, when everybody was in their prime.

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I think the problem is the Hoffa story itself which is basically teamster politics where people die, but not like mafia wars where it's public hits and stuff like that. The most dramatic thing about Hoffa is nobody knows for sure and they never found the body, which is pretty anti climatic.
bp7178
11-22-21, 21:24
Eh.

There's some new Hoffa drama in the media where a hot clue was received about how he was folded into a 55 gallon drum and buried with many more 55 gallon drums stacked vertically on it. FBI excuted a search warrant to hit the site with ground penetrating radar and found the stack. Another warrant to dig it all up. Haven't read yet if they found anything.
WillBrink
11-23-21, 08:54
Eh.

There's some new Hoffa drama in the media where a hot clue was received about how he was folded into a 55 gallon drum and buried with many more 55 gallon drums stacked vertically on it. FBI excuted a search warrant to hit the site with ground penetrating radar and found the stack. Another warrant to dig it all up. Haven't read yet if they found anything.

I wonder what the true motivation is of the FBI to find the wareabouts of what amounts to a criminal being taken out by mobsters. There's a lot of missing persons cases out there of people that were not criminals taken out by criminals, actual humans of value, like children, they could and should focus agents, time, and $ on. It was a very high profile case to be sure, but today many (most?) couldnt even tell you who Hoffa was. F that guy already.
Averageman
11-23-21, 15:08
I wonder what the true motivation is of the FBI to find the wareabouts of what amounts to a criminal being taken out by mobsters. There's a lot of missing persons cases out there of people that were not criminals taken out by criminals, actual humans of value, like children, they could and should focus agents, time, and $ on. It was a very high profile case to be sure, but today many (most?) couldnt even tell you who Hoffa was. F that guy already.

Anyone living during that time was not at all surprised at what happened to Hoffa. He didn't understand that going out to pasture and living a life outside tha spot light was his new "career".
Had he been a bit smarter he could have got 5% and went to Florida and lived a good healthy life, but not Jimmy, he needed to be the Bad Azz. See what it got him?
It wasn't that he didn't work hand in hand with the Mob, he did, they just wanted a lot less attention drawn to what they were up to and Hoffa wanted to be Boss. Those two Things would never be allowed to happen that way, Hoffa was way too hot to be in charge.
There was a lot of attention drawn to the Teamsters loaning money for Vegas Casino's amoung other things.

The story was an 7.5 out of 10.
The CGI ruined the film for me.
All in all a 6 out of 10.