View Full Version : California to Abort Gun Ownership ala TX strategy
FromMyColdDeadHand
12-12-21, 11:16
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/12/us/california-gun-control-texas-abortion-legal-tactics/index.html
When the Texas abortion law with its “bounty-hunter” private enforcement came out we talked about this approach being weaponized against gun owners. Newsome says he has his staffers working on an anti gun law now based on the TX mechanism.
In light of the Supreme Court's decision, Newsom said he directed his staff to draft a bill that would allow private citizens to seek injunctive relief "against anyone who manufactures, distributes, or sells an assault weapon or ghost gun kit or parts in the State of California."
The bill would also provide for statutory damages of at least $10,000 in addition to attorney's fees, the governor's statement said.
Of course, they seem to not be able to try to get some cash for the state out of it (see above bolder) which would seem to make this not like TXC law, and a lot easier to attack.
Hard to know what “assault weapon” means here, but aren’t they kid of illegal now? The 2A is a far more identified and clear right than abortion. If they are going to go Willy-nilly after guns, lets take a solid conservative state and make bad mouthing Trump against a TX style bounty law.
I can’t think of anyway that this would go sideways. Does it come with a WitSec contract?
I know this is all posturing, and I fully expect CA to screw this up. Never expect a DEM to overlook a chance for the Holy TRoika; useless law, virtue signaling, and unintended consequences.
I think gun companies should only lease guns to LEO organizations, so that they can pull the leases when the states or cities go rouge against guns.
Don’t we have sone form if federal law protecting gun manufacturers?
I honestly thought the TX law was idiotic at best and would have interesting consequences.
Maybe TX can announce that they are suing car makers fur making cars that can speed, run red lights..
At some point someone will have to adult and put a stop to the stupid stuff folks are doing.
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There are NO manufacturers, sellers, providers of AW's in California. There is no one to sue. Gun stores do not sell AW's, AW dealers can not sell to the public. This is Newson acting like the lout he is. I'm much more concerned with the 9th circuit upholding the onerous over 10 mag ban...that's a big prob here.
There are NO manufacturers, sellers, providers of AW's in California. There is no one to sue. Gun stores do not sell AW's, AW dealers can not sell to the public. This is Newson acting like the lout he is. I'm much more concerned with the 9th circuit upholding the onerous over 10 mag ban...that's a big prob here.
Yep, and "California will be an abortion sanctuary". Like any state will care if women go to Cali to kill their unborn. We don't care if people fly to Portland to use heroin legally.
Heck, if he feel so strongly about it, he could have his mom perform a post-birth abortion.
Andy
Combat_Diver
12-13-21, 05:34
Show me where in the Constitution is a right? Its an opinion only. Foreskin talks about saving the mothers lives but what about the childs? So, this is what happens when the SCOTUS kicks the can down the road without making solid decisions.
CD
Averageman
12-13-21, 07:19
Show me where in the Constitution is a right? Its an opinion only. Foreskin talks about saving the mothers lives but what about the childs? So, this is what happens when the SCOTUS kicks the can down the road without making solid decisions.
CD
I wonder how many "Mother's Lives are Saved" by having an Abortion?
I think that's a nice shiney excuse for someone to kill a baby, Yes Women die in childbirth, but this isn't 1900, it's 2021, that shit doesn't happen often anymore.
Killing babies clearly isn’t in the Constitution.
Gun ownership clearly is in the constitution and the TX law stands after judicial review. What does that tell you?
I don’t know for certain, but I would be willing to bet gun ownership is also protected in the KA constitution.
This won’t stand up in court. But it is a cute idea the communists have going.
Business_Casual
12-13-21, 10:44
Show me where in the Constitution is a right? Its an opinion only. Foreskin talks about saving the mothers lives but what about the childs? So, this is what happens when the SCOTUS kicks the can down the road without making solid decisions.
CD
Agree.
BoringGuy45
12-13-21, 15:46
I wonder how many "Mother's Lives are Saved" by having an Abortion?
I think that's a nice shiney excuse for someone to kill a baby, Yes Women die in childbirth, but this isn't 1900, it's 2021, that shit doesn't happen often anymore.
The number of abortions for emergency health, as well pregnancies due to rape, is extremely, extremely low. It's just the go-to argument the pro-abortion crowd uses to get a foot in the door to say "Surely you wouldn't oppose abortion in ALL cases, would you?"
If SCOTUS was worth their mumu's, this would be a pretty cut and dry instance of one being protected explicitly as a freedom, and the other one not even being a right in a constitutional sense.
sandsunsurf
12-17-21, 22:41
Saw this coming…. Stupid that the Texas religious right thought this was a good idea…
It's even stupider that pagan unbelievers thought mass murdering babies was a good idea.
It's even stupider that pagan unbelievers thought mass murdering babies was a good idea.
Or that the opportunity to terminate a viable human life up to the moment of birth purely at the whim of the mother was a good idea.
Or that allowing (and supporting with tax dollars) a known eugenist to operate numerous abortion clinics in areas populated primarily by poor people of color was a good idea.
Tom would probably consider me a bit of a pagan, to be honest, but I believe a majority of Americans oppose uncontrolled abortion on grounds that may not be based on religion.
Andy
Or that the opportunity to terminate a viable human life up to the moment of birth purely at the whim of the mother was a good idea.
Or that allowing (and supporting with tax dollars) a known eugenist to operate numerous abortion clinics in areas populated primarily by poor people of color was a good idea.
Tom would probably consider me a bit of a pagan, to be honest, but I believe a majority of Americans oppose uncontrolled abortion on grounds that may not be based on religion.
Andy
Many pagans can see the evil and folly of abortion, but the idea of abortion never came from the mind of a Bible believing Christian, it came from pagans.
Saw this coming…. Stupid that the Texas religious right thought this was a good idea…
Stupid to believe that the Left would have left gun rights alone if only Texas would have left the wanton killing of unborn babies alone.
"Saw this coming…. Stupid that the Texas religious right thought this was a good idea…"
'If only we'd just laid low and let the enemy do whatever they want, maybe they wouldn't have moved to dominate us!' LOL
Figure out what side you're on. The American side is Christian, at least in morals if nothing else. Doesn't sound so far like you're on the American side.
BoringGuy45
12-18-21, 14:17
Saw this coming…. Stupid that the Texas religious right thought this was a good idea…
No, it's a good idea. The left go right for the right's core values: Sexual morality, gun rights/self-defense, abortion, family/parental rights, and they don't even take half measures anymore. The right has been playing not to lose: Don't talk about abortion, gun rights, morality, etc. Let the left ram us up the shitter with those things, and maybe we'll get elected if we just stick with economics! The fact is, the GOP was not gaining any votes by not addressing abortion; everybody knows where most conservatives stand on the issue. Anyone who is passionate about being pro-abortion is most likely NOT a Republican!
I don't even use any other pc phrase the left has made up, it's either you're for killing babies or you're against killing babies, period. It IS just that simple to see which side you're on.
Idiotic to even consider going after gun manufacturer's in a sane world. No gun mfg makes the gun specifically aiming for some lunatic to commit crimes or shoot up a school with it any more than Ford, Chevy, Budweiser and Coors make their products aiming for people to kill others while driving drunk. But if we want to play that game, then open up to go after ginsu any time someone is stabbed or the pipe maker when someone sets off a pipe bomb. It's just not logical; but logic is not the point of the modern day left/politician/media/hollywood/big corporations/big tech, etc. now is it?
California doesn't like guns and has found a new way to Fook with gun owners? Gee, must be Thursday....
If you are stupid enough to believe anything else, then you should go live there. The rest of us will fight communists and their useful idiots on the "Left" at every step in every way that we can. If we can make Texas completely inhospitable to them in every way, shape and form, it will be much easier for us to eventually Secede. (Btw, you are already seeing the seeds of this in SEVERAL STATES, they are simply telling the Feds, "No"- like Co. is doing with MJ- good for them, good for us).... We should seek every opportunity to punish and hurt them as much as possible. There is no co existence with communists, they poison and seek to destroy everything they touch. Only pain causes them to pause in their efforts. Bring the pain.
BoringGuy45
12-23-21, 09:12
California doesn't like guns and has found a new way to Fook with gun owners? Gee, must be Thursday....
If you are stupid enough to believe anything else, then you should go live there. The rest of us will fight communists and their useful idiots on the "Left" at every step in every way that we can. If we can make Texas completely inhospitable to them in every way, shape and form, it will be much easier for us to eventually Secede. (Btw, you are already seeing the seeds of this in SEVERAL STATES, they are simply telling the Feds, "No"- like Co. is doing with MJ- good for them, good for us).... We should seek every opportunity to punish and hurt them as much as possible. There is no co existence with communists, they poison and seek to destroy everything they touch. Only pain causes them to pause in their efforts. Bring the pain.
Exactly. I've seen a lot of people thinking Texas ****ed things up for gun owners. Please :rolleyes:. California was going to do this anyway regardless of what any other state did about abortion. Newsome is just citing the Texas abortion law so that it seems like it was their fault.
Exactly. I've seen a lot of people thinking Texas ****ed things up for gun owners. Please :rolleyes:. California was going to do this anyway regardless of what any other state did about abortion. Newsome is just citing the Texas abortion law so that it seems like it was their fault.
Exactly. Show me a communist state that isn't a cesspool of paid informants. It's what they have ALWAYS done. East Germany? The Stasi? N. Korea, Cuba... Kids informing on their parents is the norm in those places. It is expected and encouraged at every level of society there.... Hello McFly....So the idea that somehow Texas came up with some "new informant system" is laughable to anyone that has read a book in the last 40 years.
The_War_Wagon
12-23-21, 16:09
makes sense they aborted common sense DECADES ago!!!
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