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mack7.62
12-21-21, 11:20
Things are going to get spicy methinks.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/12/three_retired_generals_loudly_demand_a_military_coup_in_2024.html

"Democrats claim that democracy is under attack in America and Democrats must act decisively to protect it. They’ve been trying to end the filibuster, nationalize voting, and pack the Supreme Court. The most ominous “fix,” which hinges on the myth of a “January 6 Insurrection,” sees retired generals argue that the military must purge the ranks of Trump supporters and prepare for a military coup to block a future contested election. This is unconstitutional, illegal, and spells the end of American democracy."

Averageman
12-21-21, 12:45
Did the story name them and do the live near a grassy knoll?

glocktogo
12-21-21, 12:57
Don't worry, LLLoyd Austin is all up on it. :rolleyes:

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2021-12-20/extremism-ranks-increasing-pentagon-new-rules

TomMcC
12-21-21, 13:29
Sounds to me like the commie generals are trying to mainstream shooting right wing protestors and/or arresting and jailing vocal Republican congressmen.

Go to a protest of leftist shenanigans... don't forget to wear your balaclava and black non-descript clothing.

TomMcC
12-21-21, 13:31
Don't worry, LLLoyd Austin is all up on it. :rolleyes:

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2021-12-20/extremism-ranks-increasing-pentagon-new-rules

I read through the article, any idea what an extremist organization is, besides the obvious up front neo-nazi or klan outfit?

Averageman
12-21-21, 13:54
I read through the article, any idea what an extremist organization is, besides the obvious up front neo-nazi or klan outfit?

They will determine that as they go.
You know with those kinds of statements he leaves Commanders with a broad level of interpitation. Someone and rightly so might start punishing folks for being Antifa or BLM using his directives.
Hold my Tar Baby, dumbass.

And if your not going to name the General Officers, please refrain from saying so. I want names or it never happened and I refuse to believe it, because if your not willing to name it, you really just made it up.

TomMcC
12-21-21, 14:05
Did the story name them and do the live near a grassy knoll?

Yes, the story names them.

"Enter now three retired U.S. Army Generals: Major Generals Paul D. Eaton and Antonio M. Taguba and Brigadier General Steven M. Anderson (“the Three”). In a Washington Post opinion piece, “3 retired generals: The military must prepare now for a 2024 insurrection,” they contend that events in 2020 revealed an incipient military coup and that, to save our nation, the U.S. military must act preemptively—radically and unilaterally. What they write should frighten every American."

Inkslinger
12-21-21, 14:08
This is the oped this article is referring to. All three generals are named.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/17/eaton-taguba-anderson-generals-military/

Averageman
12-21-21, 14:25
So if you vote for conservatives, does that mean your trying to overthrow the .gov?

I see these three as some traitorous assholes.

FromMyColdDeadHand
12-21-21, 14:28
Talk about transference….

TomMcC
12-21-21, 14:31
So if you vote for conservatives, does that mean your trying to overthrow the .gov?

I see these three as some traitorous assholes.

Just calling them traitorous a holes would probably be enough.

Averageman
12-21-21, 14:34
Keep stirring the pot and ginning up fear and eventually you'll scare some people in to doing something stupid.

TomMcC
12-21-21, 14:39
Keep stirring the pot and ginning up fear and eventually you'll scare some people in to doing something stupid.

About it. I see these guys as just itching to pull the trigger on someone.

utahjeepr
12-21-21, 15:14
About it. I see these guys as just itching to pull the trigger on someone.

Correction: - encourage somebody else pulling the trigger on someone - Not a one has any direct combat experience.

mack7.62
12-21-21, 16:01
In a Representative Republic or a Democracy what is going on would be considered treason, unfortunately we seem to be living in the country formerly known as the USA. Those in charge are going to focus like laser beams on rooting out and removing anyone in the military who won't toe the party line.

Averageman
12-21-21, 16:24
In a Representative Republic or a Democracy what is going on would be considered treason, unfortunately we seem to be living in the country formerly known as the USA. Those in charge are going to focus like laser beams on rooting out and removing anyone in the military who won't toe the party line.

I've personally seen that happen to Officers and Senior NCO's who independant thinkers, those guys who dont see problems, they just see a unique situations and solutions.
I really think this cultural shift away from traditional Military values will tear the military apart first and the Country wont be far behind.

This, by this I mean everything in society today seems to be fear driven. Three Generals are looking at the possability of a mass insurection, Biden says everyone who hasn't been vaxed will die at Christmas. Inflation causing panic buying, fuel prices going up a buck or more a gallon, all of this is to create a general unease and make people live in fear.
If your afraid your easier to control.

prepare
12-21-21, 16:29
Bring it.

RUTGERS95
12-21-21, 16:34
I read through the article, any idea what an extremist organization is, besides the obvious up front neo-nazi or klan outfit?

Blm, antifa, naacp

TomMcC
12-21-21, 16:45
Blm, antifa, naacp

You, I, and most of us here would consider these orgs extremist, but does the hierarchy of the military consider them so? I doubt it.

Wake27
12-21-21, 17:48
You, I, and most of us here would consider these orgs extremist, but does the hierarchy of the military consider them so? I doubt it.

The briefing we got on extremist organizations did include BLM, I can’t remember if Antifa was there or not. It also had like 20 different types of Nazis.


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Diamondback
12-21-21, 18:12
These guys, Silley Milley and self-styled "Lord" Austin all read Seven Days in May as masturbatory fantasy, not cautionary tale.

mack7.62
12-21-21, 18:29
The bigger problem is it's not just some rogue generals, it's a cabal of military, deep stater's, administration officials, big tech, big business, big media, academia all bought and paid for by the CCP. Thinking we can vote out way out of this is IMO delusional. Seven Days in May was hawk Generals wanting to overthrow a weak President, these guys are more likely having wet dreams about Mein Kampf or the Communist Manifesto, they want power over the peasants.

lowprone
12-21-21, 18:37
Obummer purged the mil of any true kick ass leaders, anyone left now or recently are political hacks.

TomMcC
12-21-21, 18:54
The briefing we got on extremist organizations did include BLM, I can’t remember if Antifa was there or not. It also had like 20 different types of Nazis.


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I'm actually a bit stunned they were included. The 20 nazi orgs are interesting, had no idea there were that many. Were they being truthful on who was a genuine nazi or or were they playing fast and loose?

TomMcC
12-21-21, 20:58
It looks like the hunt for military extremists is a witch hunt with ridiculously miniscule results.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/12/21/pentagon-finds-fewer-than-100-troops-engaged-in-extremist-activity-in-past-year/

The 3 commie generals need to redouble their efforts.

Wake27
12-21-21, 21:55
I'm actually a bit stunned they were included. The 20 nazi orgs are interesting, had no idea there were that many. Were they being truthful on who was a genuine nazi or or were they playing fast and loose?

20 may be an exageration, this was back in March. There were a lot though and everything seemed legit. It was presented by a special agent from the investigator's office that actually investigates the stuff so he knew what he was talking about.

Aries144
12-21-21, 22:10
20 may be an exageration, this was back in March. There were a lot though and everything seemed legit. It was presented by a special agent from the investigator's office that actually investigates the stuff so he knew what he was talking about.

20 organizations is a misprint. They meant all 20 people.

Diamondback
12-21-21, 22:12
20 may be an exageration, this was back in March. There were a lot though and everything seemed legit. It was presented by a special agent from the investigator's office that actually investigates the stuff so he knew what he was talking about.

How many of those were just 2-3 retarded dupes and one FBLie agent-provocateur, though?

Jellybean
12-21-21, 22:28
I read through the article, any idea what an extremist organization is, besides the obvious up front neo-nazi or klan outfit?
Sure, just turn on the TV, and you can watch any one of several extremist organizations all spewing their propaganda at you.

I'm reminded of the old verse:
"The wicked flee where no man pursueth" (or something like that).
These people across the left have reached levels of self induced paranoia SO extreme, they are now self fulfilling their own doom-and-gloom prophecies. This is not the only place I've seen this self-inflicting "everyone's out to get us so we gotta get them first" mindset - it's all over the culture-industries as well.
Also, it goes to prove that they fear extreme backlash for whatever they intend to do in 2022/24, which in itself, SHOULD be enough to get them looking hard in a mirror...if they had any self awareness at all.
It's amazing that for all their protestations against violence, and peaceful transitions of power, and all that, these same people are always the first to grab for the biggest gun they can find if any dares counter their sanctified ideals. It wasn't to long ago certain senators were bandying about nukes and F-15s, for what? Because some people want to go their own way?
At this point I question daily whether or not I want to be alive long enough to watch this blow sky high...
And in the end, it will never occur to these people, it was all self-inflicted.

Wake27
12-21-21, 22:45
I'm not sure if people are joking or legitimately trying to put words in my mouth, but to be clear as this is not something I feel like ****ing around with, there were 47 different organizations discussed to include extemists on both the left and right. The brief we got was very well balanced and I appreciated that. I won't speculate behind the overall intent of the SECDEF's order.

Diamondback
12-21-21, 22:52
I'm not sure if people are joking or legitimately trying to put words in my mouth, but to be clear as this is not something I feel like ****ing around with, there were 47 different organizations discussed to include extemists on both the left and right. The brief we got was very well balanced and I appreciated that. I won't speculate behind the overall intent of the SECDEF's order.

Not trying to put words in your mouth here, amigo, just noting that even smart and well intentioned people are only as good as the data they're working from and there are all manner of opportunities for bad actors inside the system upstream of them to taint that data.

Boy Scout
12-22-21, 01:42
This is the Pravda machine rolling out the articles to set the stage for more antics around the 2024 election. This is just getting started.

https://www.newsweek.com/2021/12/31/millions-angry-armed-americans-stand-ready-seize-power-if-trump-loses-2024-1660953.html

“Millions of Angry, Armed Americans Stand Ready to Seize Power If Trump Loses in 2024“


They want chaos to seize power, and they are setting themselves up as the “good guys.”

jesuvuah
12-22-21, 04:53
The briefing we got on extremist organizations did include BLM, I can’t remember if Antifa was there or not. It also had like 20 different types of Nazis.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat a lot of kinds of Nazis. Was there Jew Nazis? These days nothing would suprise me as there are now black white supremacist.

Soli Deo Gloria

Alpha-17
12-22-21, 08:39
At this point, it definitely looks like they're trying to normalize interference with the election, and prevent whomever the Dem. candidate will be from losing. Any challenge or accusation of fraud will be rejected as "unfounded Trumpism", any protest an insurrection deserving only the harshest the purged military will hand out. If foreign intervention is required, well, that's great. Gotta uphold Democracy! In the meantime, gun control will have a new angle, as all those guns bought over the last couple of years? A threat to democracy! Those stupid, redneck Trump voters will swarm the country shooting everyone if they have guns and the election doesn't go their way! After all, they're the violent ones. Democrats will protest, but never get violent! No sir-ee! That never happens!

Yeah, civil war is coming, and we're probably well past the point that a peaceful divorce is even possible.

Averageman
12-22-21, 09:14
Yeah, civil war is coming, and we're probably well past the point that a peaceful divorce is even possible.

They don't want it to be peaceful;
I mean they've pretty much perfected the "Keep them in constant fear angle" by Pushing the Russia Investigation, the Covid (not a Pandemic) as a Pandemic and Jussie Smoulette, Constant BLM, Antifa riots in the streets, Kyle Rittenhouse and it goes on and on. I mean damn, do we need former General Officers to come out with a story like this?
So keep stirring the Pot because that's how you bring the screwballs out, pick up the tempo with that stirring spoon and you'll get a Lee Harvey Oswald to come to the top which really is their own personal "Wet Dream".
Sweet Jesus all of us just want to be left alone.

Disciple
12-22-21, 11:58
the Covid (not a Pandemic) as a Pandemic

How is it not a pandemic? It is an infectious disease that has been spread around the entire world. That doesn't justify the authoritarianism it is been used for of course.

BoringGuy45
12-22-21, 12:03
Yeah, civil war is coming, and we're probably well past the point that a peaceful divorce is even possible.

Peaceful divorce was never possible, and even if it was, it would be disastrous. The states have not been self-reliant enough to split apart since before the Civil War. America would become fifty 3rd world countries.

Plus, the conflict now is between leftist urban areas and the red rural areas in every state, not red states vs. blue states. A civil war is going to have to be for all the marbles.

Diamondback
12-23-21, 02:37
That a lot of kinds of Nazis. Was there Jew Nazis? These days nothing would suprise me as there are now black white supremacist.

Soli Deo Gloria

Two words: George Soros.

Averageman
12-23-21, 04:53
How is it not a pandemic? It is an infectious disease that has been spread around the entire world. That doesn't justify the authoritarianism it is been used for of course.

Well, it's not...Rotavirus, Rabies, HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus), Smallpox, Hantavirus, Dengue Virus, Ebola, Marburg Virus.

Our science artificially keeps the old and very sick alive for decades longer than nature intended now. Many of those People have done nothing to improve their own health, so they were for the most part living on borrowed time.
Covid just crept in a swept the table.
Other than that, we are dealing with a virus that kills those with observable comorbidities and a very few statistical anomolies.

Also this thing has been handled all wrong medially from the begining. I beleive Joe Rogan is on the right track and everyone else is selling snake oil and calling it a vaccine.
I would also ask you to define vaccine, because we have vaccines, they don't work like this.

ABNAK
12-23-21, 07:30
They don't want it to be peaceful;
I mean they've pretty much perfected the "Keep them in constant fear angle" by Pushing the Russia Investigation, the Covid (not a Pandemic) as a Pandemic and Jussie Smoulette, Constant BLM, Antifa riots in the streets, Kyle Rittenhouse and it goes on and on. I mean damn, do we need former General Officers to come out with a story like this?
So keep stirring the Pot because that's how you bring the screwballs out, pick up the tempo with that stirring spoon and you'll get a Lee Harvey Oswald to come to the top which really is their own personal "Wet Dream".
Sweet Jesus all of us just want to be left alone.

You do realize that the libtard agenda (i.e. socialism/communism) requires forced mandatory participation, right? There is no "just being left alone" or opting-out.

Wildcat
12-23-21, 07:55
Also this thing has been handled all wrong medially from the begining. I beleive Joe Rogan is on the right track and everyone else is selling snake oil and calling it a vaccine.
I would also ask you to define vaccine, because we have vaccines, they don't work like this.

Now there seem to be multiple answers to that question and things don't mean what they used to.

Merriam Webster, earlier this year, -adjusted- their definition of "vaccine". So did the CDC.

Averageman
12-23-21, 07:56
Now there seem to be multiple answers to that question and things don't mean what they used to.

Merriam Webster, earlier this year, -adjusted- their definition of "vaccine". So did the CDC.

See how that works?

Alpha-17
12-23-21, 08:40
Peaceful divorce was never possible, and even if it was, it would be disastrous. The states have not been self-reliant enough to split apart since before the Civil War. America would become fifty 3rd world countries.

Plus, the conflict now is between leftist urban areas and the red rural areas in every state, not red states vs. blue states. A civil war is going to have to be for all the marbles.

A peaceful divorce wouldn't have to create 50 independent countries, it just means that a split is possible. 2-4 new countries could be born out of the current mess, and they might actually show some semblance of unity. Yes, there would still be a split between urban and rural folks, but changes to policy (remove the support programs, and a lot of people would feel the need to move) and population exchanges (as typically happens when borders are created or redrawn) would take care of that. Likely wouldn't be pretty, but it's a better alternative than fullscale, winner take all civil war with all that will entail.

markm
12-23-21, 09:03
Merriam Webster, earlier this year, -adjusted- their definition of "vaccine". So did the CDC.

I'm quite surprised they have not changed the definition of "HERD". I'm amazed that the propaganda machine calls the moron public "HERD" to their imbecile faces, and they STILL don't fu@king get it!!!

3 AE
12-24-21, 01:55
WOLVERINE!

FromMyColdDeadHand
12-24-21, 10:31
The 1/6 show trial does seem to be going after lawyers and leaders that were advocating means to contest the election results- but based on legal means. Now maybe those legal means are highly unorthodox. Maybe the legal theories that they are based on wouldn't pass adversarial argument- but that is what law suits and courts are for. Unless the dems want to rename as an insurrection their challenging Trump and Bush's wins with Sentate action on counting electoral votes, they don't have a leg to stand on. Code Pink get thrown into solitary and held with out bail for their interfering with a govt business.

They have put their plans and cards on the table. I think there is a good chance that we'll get POTUS back in 2024. We have to make sure that we really purge the system and start putting these collectivist leaders hiding behind govt immunity into legal jeopardy. Fire every single DOJ lawyer. I don't care if that stops federal prosecutions. I'd rahter a few drug dealers and murders go free than allow this rot in our govt continue to be a threat to our very way of life.

Plus, it would be hilarious if these generals all woke up in the middle of the night with someone whispering in their ears "Stop F*CKing around" or a dead donkeys head in their beds.

Diamondback
12-24-21, 11:48
The 1/6 show trial does seem to be going after lawyers and leaders that were advocating means to contest the election results- but based on legal means. Now maybe those legal means are highly unorthodox. Maybe the legal theories that they are based on wouldn't pass adversarial argument- but that is what law suits and courts are for. Unless the dems want to rename as an insurrection their challenging Trump and Bush's wins with Sentate action on counting electoral votes, they don't have a leg to stand on. Code Pink get thrown into solitary and held with out bail for their interfering with a govt business.

They have put their plans and cards on the table. I think there is a good chance that we'll get POTUS back in 2024. We have to make sure that we really purge the system and start putting these collectivist leaders hiding behind govt immunity into legal jeopardy. Fire every single DOJ lawyer. I don't care if that stops federal prosecutions. I'd rahter a few drug dealers and murders go free than allow this rot in our govt continue to be a threat to our very way of life.

Plus, it would be hilarious if these generals all woke up in the middle of the night with someone whispering in their ears "Stop F*CKing around" or a dead donkeys head in their beds.

Marc Elias is already threatening Article 14 Section 3 action wholesale against R's if we get a majority in '22 because "insurrection." Part of me thinks this is intended to deliberately provoke overreaction, another part thinks they're only accusing us of what they've already DONE and we should turn their own weapon against them.

Personally, I'd like to see DOJ HQ, the Hoover Building and Langley razed to the ground and the rubble-strewn sites preserved as such, as a monument to their perfidy a la the Duke of Aveiro's palace in Lisbon in reply to his treachery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salting_the_earth#Punishing_traitors

Aries144
12-24-21, 12:57
Don't forget what turned all of this from a few hundred radicals into something threatening our republic: the university. Our universities must be purged. Every teacher, every journalist, every business major, every scientist, nearly every film maker, is influenced at their most vulnerable and impressionable ages here: in their late teens and early adulthood, when they're taking their first adult steps away from Mom and Dad and have little resistance to either propaganda or peer pressure because of their lack of life experience and confidence.

America currently has no voice in its own universities- no voice in raising its own children. Fix the universities decisively or we die.

Harpoon
12-25-21, 10:03
Last time, many of the countries best generals and officers resigned their commissions and chose to fight for their state instead of the Tyrant in Washington.

Diamondback
12-25-21, 11:40
Hmmm... advocating a military coup... wouldn't that be Mutiny and grounds for Recall to AD and Court-Martial?

Diamondback
12-25-21, 12:01
Granted, my prior assumes we can get a POTUS in '24 past the Deep State rigging who's inclined to fight and has a team with the chops to make things happen...

Adrenaline_6
12-27-21, 12:04
Granted, my prior assumes we can get a POTUS in '24 past the Deep State rigging who's inclined to fight and has a team with the chops to make things happen...

Sadly the chops to make things happen is done by Congress...which Trump found out the hard way. Until that swamp is purged, they will prance around pointing at each other like peacocks and do nothing like they always do.

AKjeff
12-27-21, 15:17
That may be one reason he had "Acting Directors", they didn't need to be confirmed by congress.

Diamondback
12-27-21, 17:44
Worth noting that all three of these guys have ties to a Democrat front group called VoteVets, purportedly a PAC for veterans. (CVFC PAC is a conservative counter.)
"While pretending to advocate on behalf of veterans and veterans’ issues, in reality VoteVets operates in lockstep with other anti-gun groups funded by Bloomberg’s cash. To be clear, VoteVets advocates for more anti-gun laws and restrictions even though most veterans own guns and strongly support the Second Amendment."
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/votevets-veterans-org-funded-by-democrats-and-bloomberg-to-push-gun-control-progressive-candidates/
Or from the source: https://thegunwriter.substack.com/p/liberal-pac-the-secret-source-for

Whalstib
12-27-21, 19:05
That a lot of kinds of Nazis. Was there Jew Nazis?
Soli Deo Gloria

I think George Soros qualifies as a Jew/Nazi from what I've read and his own words....