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mRad
12-27-21, 20:22
According to a recent medscape article, antibodies from boosters are waning in as little as ten weeks. They aren’t calling for Q10 boosters yet, but they’ve already claimed adequate immunity isn’t attained from three and that a forth will be needed. Next you will hear of a schedule of quarterly if not every couple months. Somebody stands to make trillions.

More can be read here:

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/965612?uac=280982EZ&faf=1&sso=true&impID=3908338&src=mkm_covid_update_211227_MSCPEDIT


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THCDDM4
12-27-21, 20:31
According to a recent medscape article, antibodies from boosters are waning in as little as ten weeks. They aren’t calling for Q10 boosters yet, but they’ve already claimed adequate immunity isn’t attained from three and that a forth will be needed. Next you will hear of a schedule of quarterly if not every couple months. Somebody stands to make trillions.

More can be read here:

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/965612?uac=280982EZ&faf=1&sso=true&impID=3908338&src=mkm_covid_update_211227_MSCPEDIT


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It’s a few weeks away from the definition of “fully vaccinated” for Covid being redefined and changing.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/definition-of-e2-80-98fully-vaccinated-e2-80-99-could-change-cdc-chief-says-here-e2-80-99s-what-that-means/ar-AAQ3pLP

The goal posts will continue to move in the favor of big pharmaceutical companies and the fed gov.

markm
12-27-21, 20:39
The goal posts will continue to move in the favor of big pharmaceutical companies and the fed gov.

AMEN. The FACT that the vaccines do not work is irrelevant I guess.

HKGuns
12-27-21, 20:47
AMEN. The FACT that the vaccines do not work is irrelevant I guess.

Just keep trusting the retards running this country Mark.

I am sure all will be fine and they have you and your families best interest at heart.

chuckman
12-27-21, 20:55
Of course they are waning. The average time will decrease as variants pop up. Antibody life isn't what they should be measuring, they should be measuring patient outcomes.

Averageman
12-27-21, 21:01
It would appear to me that if the trend continues, the virus will be more infectious, yet less damaging to the lungs.
We aren't seeing the deaths from Omnicron, we simply aren't.
So selling wolf tickets for a cold isn't going to last long.

chuckman
12-27-21, 21:03
It would appear to me that if the trend continues, the virus will be more infectious, yet less damaging to the lungs.
We aren't seeing the deaths from Omnicron, we simply aren't.
So selling wolf tickets for a cold isn't going to last long.

No, we're not.

Locally children have the highest percentage of positive with testing, yet are the least symptomatic. But the sky is falling, because kids are testing positive.

mRad
12-27-21, 21:10
I want to know how cases of omicron are being confirmed. I’m being told it’s a send-out to a lab four states away and can only be tested for omicron specifically in a “complex” case and under physician orders.

Saw the same thing happen with Delta.


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THCDDM4
12-27-21, 21:32
Of course they are waning. The average time will decrease as variants pop up. Antibody life isn't what they should be measuring, they should be measuring patient outcomes.
I’m curious how we accurately measure patient outcomes?

If the patient didn’t take the gene therapy what the outcome is versus if they did.

No way to measure it.

You can say measure outcome of patient “x” who did take the gene therapy versus patient “z” who did not take it and the outcome is the deciding factor- but it isn’t.

This virus is so odd. There isn’t just the si gulag variable of jabbed versus not jabbed. The metrics mean nothing.

I’ve seen a non jabbed 90 YO with COPD and diabetes and a plethora of other issues get Delta and be fine in 3 days and then a non jabbed 20 something fit as a fiddle be in duress for 4 weeks and almost meet their end.

I’ve seen fit and healthy early 30’s athletes get the jab and have a heart attack a week later and seen geriatric soon to be dead grandpas get the lab and have no effects whatsoever, but co tongue to deteriorate due to being isolated and having no stimulation to keep them wanting to be alive.

So what is actually being measured when the outcomes are so random regardless of one single metric?

It reminds me of the anti gun argument that the AW ban was successful because if it wouldn’t have been enacted, there would have been “millions of more murders with AW’s”.

What?!?!?! It’s not accurately measurable…

Averageman
12-27-21, 21:38
I want to know how cases of omicron are being confirmed. I’m being told it’s a send-out to a lab four states away and can only be tested for omicron specifically in a “complex” case and under physician orders.

Saw the same thing happen with Delta.


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Well, how do we know anything is being tested.
On top of that, in the case of Omnicron, who are we sending the samples to, to be tested?
I don't want to come off like I think this whole thing is a total farce, butt....
We are trusting a combined effort of MSM, Big Pharma and .Gov, certainly no reason to suspect any level of foul play,... Right?

Artos
12-27-21, 21:42
Yet the msm keeps telling us it's un-jab'd filling up hospitals & causing the problems...some of us said it over a year ago about the whole jabs for life & were called tinfoilers. Just watch, the new narrative will be to keep the rona at bay your boosters are like rechargeable batts that need a zap to ward off future variants if you want to defeat this 99% survivable cootie & not DIE!!

Israel is already working on #4 jab cuz #3 isn't working...next spooky variant will be here within 60 days. The whole testing BS is no different than the jab $$$$ scam.

mRad
12-27-21, 21:51
Well, how do we know anything is being tested.
On top of that, in the case of Omnicron, who are we sending the samples to, to be tested?
I don't want to come off like I think this whole thing is a total farce, butt....
We are trusting a combined effort of MSM, Big Pharma and .Gov, certainly no reason to suspect any level of foul play,... Right?

Well I do know of testing happening; seeing it in front of me being performed by personal friends. But I definitely see where you’re coming from; we have to assume numbers being reported by individual institutions are being accurately and honestly tabulated before being reported to the public. When people have an agenda, it complicates the trust issue even further.

I’m deeply bothered by the reporting that cases are omicron, they aren’t even testing them for anything but generic COVID-19. It’s absurd because I KNOW it happened with Delta, again friends performing the tests.


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Averageman
12-27-21, 22:33
Well I'm not ever going to see any testing happen. So I have to have unlimited amount of blind trust.
Considering the events of the last two years, I'm all out of blind trust.
We have been lied to time and again, no mask, one mask, two masks, remember? And that's just one example.
And if your not in the medical field, like I am not, when someone tells you "vaccine" and then they have to change the definition of vaccine to make this fit, well..
What I have seen is bull sh*t and I'm very familiar with BS. And We are being Bull Sh*tted, which has resulted in broken trust.
As time goes on this lie is falling apart and so is my trust I think heads need to roll

mRad
12-27-21, 22:43
Well I'm not ever going to see any testing happen. So I have to have unlimited amount of blind trust.
Considering the events of the last two years, I'm all out of blind trust.
We have been lied to time and again, no mask, one mask, two masks, remember? And that's just one example.
And if your not in the medical field, like I am not, when someone tells you "vaccine" and then they have to change the definition of vaccine to make this fit, well..
What I have seen is bull sh*t and I'm very familiar with BS. And We are being Bull Sh*tted, which has resulted in broken trust.
As time goes on this lie is falling apart and so is my trust I think heads need to roll

I agree.


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Honu
12-27-21, 23:45
The deaths have been made into others we know that OH motorcycle COVID Oh heart attack COVID
Flu COVID shot OH COVID by a trump supporter if it has to do with a gun :)

My unvaxed getting it was not even as bad as a cold ! Was a big nothing but I am in super shape which is proving to be the best thing for you ! And that also makes life better daily

Yeah it can kill so can the flu so can the cold so can a piece of food you did not swallow properly

This whole thing is a big freaking joke anymore like the global warming panic idiocy but this one people took the bait and bit down hard they finally got people to buy into it and many still are and again across the whole freaking world ! WOW just WOW

Buckaroo
12-28-21, 06:31
I'm starting to wonder if there will be a "you have to be vaccinated (boosted) within the last (insert time here) in order to be able to X (fully participate in society)." just like folks currently have to show a negative test to travel between countries.

I'm vacced but not boosted due to my volunteer work.

Averageman
12-28-21, 07:14
Well they are trying to force you to be vaxxed to travel domestically on the airlines now.
So you will be vaxxed and wearing a mask the whole time.
I'm pretty sure this has now spun totally out of control.

markm
12-28-21, 07:38
Just keep trusting the retards running this country Mark.

I am sure all will be fine and they have you and your families best interest at heart.

I don't get the motivation. Do they all own stocks in the companies they're feeding with our money??? That would be too transparent I'd guess.

mRad
12-28-21, 07:45
I don't get the motivation. Do they all own stocks in the companies they're feeding with our money??? That would be too transparent I'd guess.

That and campaign contributions.


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pinzgauer
12-28-21, 07:54
Of course they are waning. The average time will decrease as variants pop up. Antibody life isn't what they should be measuring, they should be measuring patient outcomes.Can't diss the counter narrative (Big pharma is in control of the world) to the "you need more vaccines" big gov narrative.

Vaccines are not force shields. They just train antibodies. The fact that the vaccine and boosters has significantly, significantly reduced hospitalizations and deaths seems to be lost on some people.

HKGuns
12-28-21, 07:58
I don't get the motivation. Do they all own stocks in the companies they're feeding with our money??? That would be too transparent I'd guess.

I'm not sure what exactly is going on..........I'm generally not a conspiracy theorist, but the constant doubling down on stupid that has been happening since this fiasco started, has me thinking there just may be more to what is going on than is immediately apparent.

Perhaps its as simple as their diversity hiring practices has raised the .gov to a level of incompetence never seen before. Might be as simple as power and control to create yet another tribe others can rally against and hate, creating a distraction from their utter incompetence.

We may never know, but I think it has to be more than stock buys.

Heck, I just reviewed my portfolio this morning and my finance guy has me in all kinds of biotech and healthcare.

Actually, they may be trying to create a health care bubble so during the resulting crash they can rush in and do yet another .gov take-over.

chuckman
12-28-21, 08:15
I’m curious how we accurately measure patient outcomes?

If the patient didn’t take the gene therapy what the outcome is versus if they did.

No way to measure it.

You can say measure outcome of patient “x” who did take the gene therapy versus patient “z” who did not take it and the outcome is the deciding factor- but it isn’t.

This virus is so odd. There isn’t just the si gulag variable of jabbed versus not jabbed. The metrics mean nothing.

I’ve seen a non jabbed 90 YO with COPD and diabetes and a plethora of other issues get Delta and be fine in 3 days and then a non jabbed 20 something fit as a fiddle be in duress for 4 weeks and almost meet their end.

I’ve seen fit and healthy early 30’s athletes get the jab and have a heart attack a week later and seen geriatric soon to be dead grandpas get the lab and have no effects whatsoever, but co tongue to deteriorate due to being isolated and having no stimulation to keep them wanting to be alive.

So what is actually being measured when the outcomes are so random regardless of one single metric?

It reminds me of the anti gun argument that the AW ban was successful because if it wouldn’t have been enacted, there would have been “millions of more murders with AW’s”.

What?!?!?! It’s not accurately measurable…

Start with your definitions: what do you want to measure? To say broadly "measure patient outcomes" is too broad; in HC and HC academia it's a catch-all for a direction of study.

In my three-foot world, my patient outcomes are usually average length of stay and symptom severity. Others might measure "levels of 'X' in blood as measured daily over seven days."

You are right in that to accurately measure you need to control for controlled and uncontrolled variables.

Thanks to your government and HC accreditation, we measure tons and tons of esoteric shit, so this is not new to us.

Averageman
12-28-21, 08:43
I don't get the motivation. Do they all own stocks in the companies they're feeding with our money??? That would be too transparent I'd guess.

Yes, they do !


n before. Might be as simple as power and control to create yet another tribe others can rally against and hate, creating a distraction from their utter incompetence.

We may never know, but I think it has to be more than stock buys.

Heck, I just reviewed my portfolio this morning and my finance guy has me in all kinds of biotech aI'm not sure what exactly is going on..........I'm generally not a conspiracy theorist, but the constant doubling down on stupid that has been happening since this fiasco started, has me thinking there just may be more to what is going on than is immediately apparent.

Perhaps its as simple as their diversity hiring practices has raised the .gov to a level of incompetence never seend healthcare.

Actually, they may be trying to create a health care bubble so during the resulting crash they can rush in and do yet another .gov take-over.

They "Our elected Officals" have information, constant ongoing updates to that information and they use it to make themselves rich.
As a matter of fact when it was recently suggested that since they have this information and also control policy, they be precluded from investing in the market, Nancy Pelosi shit a pickle and came out emphatically against it. They don't even try hard hiding it.
But I think this is also about power and control.
The BLM/Antifa riots, defund police, the death of our elections, our borders being overun and on and on, it's all connected. I would suggest that at this level it's about changing the American culture to make it more favorable for socialism.
Essentially they don't like your traditional values and they want them changed to allow collectivism to be more favorable to the American public.

Averageman
12-28-21, 08:50
Start with your definitions: what do you want to measure? To say broadly "measure patient outcomes" is too broad; in HC and HC academia it's a catch-all for a direction of study.

In my three-foot world, my patient outcomes are usually average length of stay and symptom severity. Others might measure "levels of 'X' in blood as measured daily over seven days."

You are right in that to accurately measure you need to control for controlled and uncontrolled variables.

Thanks to your government and HC accreditation, we measure tons and tons of esoteric shit, so this is not new to us.

Well you have to start somewhere, so why not start with favorable outcomes and begin breaking it down from there?
When your looking for perfect data, you'll never find it today, too many uncontrolled variables ot there. Perhaps volunteers for a control group should have went out back when we had a hard lock down, but that never happened and I believe that's the only way to control the integrity of the data.

chuckman
12-28-21, 09:16
Well you have to start somewhere, so why not start with favorable outcomes and begin breaking it down from there?
When your looking for perfect data, you'll never find it today, too many uncontrolled variables ot there. Perhaps volunteers for a control group should have went out back when we had a hard lock down, but that never happened and I believe that's the only way to control the integrity of the data.

You can define 'favorable outcome' and break it down from there, sure. That works.

No, no such thing as perfect data. That's why in statistics there is no such thing as certainty, only probability. When you read research studies and look at methodology the robust ones will explain the strengths and weaknesses of the methodology. Messy data can be cleaned up, controlling the noise, but depending on the sample and population and what you are looking for it can be very tough.

There were several studies when this started (and still going on) with control groups and experimental groups; at least where I work. I presume almost every academic medical center is doing the same thing. The challenge is that good longitudinal studies with large sample sizes may take a few years before they conclude and get published. You certainly can do a longitudinal study over the course of weeks or months, but the sample size is almost always small (unless a multi-center study with dozens or more institutional participants), and the results usually asterisked with "of course a longer study needs to occur to increase probability of hypothesized results."

The other challenge is unless you work in research all the time and know the gatekeepers (I do not, I am never principal and always part of a team) it takes time to push it through the institutional review board, research ethics committee, etc. The people who do this often can design and write a study and get it pushed through in a couple months, but others might take a year.

The low hanging fruit is asking a simple question and designing a time-limited, simple study; or, a retrospective study looking at reams and reams of information from a previous time.

The_War_Wagon
12-28-21, 09:31
You just needthe fortitude to tell Mickey Mauci "fudge this shiite" & then live your life. And this from someone who had the chinky-dink virus, & it gave me a stroke.

FromMyColdDeadHand
12-28-21, 11:31
Smart money knows that the virus is going to become endemic and at the same time become less dangerous. They have to keep this charade of the vaccinations working so that they can claim that the vaccinations are what won the day, and either continuous on that path like drug addicts or claim the victory.

There is no ****ing way I’m getting a booster more often than I change my oil in my car. More often than I change the batteries in my smoke detectors. Add this rate you’ll just get a shot every time you get a haircut.

utahjeepr
12-28-21, 11:44
Just be quiet and drink your Kool-Aid. Errr, I mean booster.

Todd.K
12-28-21, 11:48
I’m deeply bothered by the reporting that cases are omicron, they aren’t even testing them for anything but generic COVID-19. It’s absurd because I KNOW it happened with Delta, again friends performing the tests.


I always figured it was some percentage of the positive samples getting sent off for additional variant testing.

You are saying you know people in a lab and they don’t know how or where this variant testing is done?

Hard to believe my confidence in “the science” could go any lower, but here we are.

mRad
12-28-21, 12:02
I always figured it was some percentage of the positive samples getting sent off for additional variant testing.

You are saying you know people in a lab and they don’t know how or where this variant testing is done?

Hard to believe my confidence in “the science” could go any lower, but here we are.


Not that they don’t how or where, but rather it isn’t being done. They run generic COVID-19 tests. To get a variant confirmation requires that the physician “really really” wants to know.

I would imagine that health departments are sending a percentage of their samples and applying it across the board, but it seems they are actually attributing ALL cases to variants if Delta was any indicator.


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chuckman
12-28-21, 12:16
Smart money knows that the virus is going to become endemic and at the same time become less dangerous. They have to keep this charade of the vaccinations working so that they can claim that the vaccinations are what won the day, and either continuous on that path like drug addicts or claim the victory.

There is no ****ing way I’m getting a booster more often than I change my oil in my car. More often than I change the batteries in my smoke detectors. Add this rate you’ll just get a shot every time you get a haircut.

It has gotten too big to fail, but I remain stunned and amazed at how they double down on their efforts...."this is not working! So we'll keep doing it until it does!". But not only does it not work, but the data are becoming clearer that it's actually okay to not be vaccinated.

Averageman
12-28-21, 12:47
It has gotten too big to fail, but I remain stunned and amazed at how they double down on their efforts...."this is not working! So we'll keep doing it until it does!". But not only does it not work, but the data are becoming clearer that it's actually okay to not be vaccinated.
Look at some of the critics how the AIDS crisis was handled.
How various very promising treatments were found and discarded before even being explored.
Some folks claim that all of this added years to finding a cure.
Look at who was in charge of all of that. Who in the end benefitted from all of that, there's your connection.
and your answer.

FromMyColdDeadHand
12-28-21, 13:06
Look at some of the critics how the AIDS crisis was handled.
How various very promising treatments were found and discarded before even being explored.
Some folks claim that all of this added years to finding a cure.
Look at who was in charge of all of that. Who in the end benefitted from all of that, there's your connection.
and your answer.

Exactly. And expound on this a bit, this is what the congressman that talked about Fauci and AIDS was trying to get a cross. Fauci pushed a vaccine for aids, at the expense of treatments. It ended up that a vaccine was not the right path for AIDS, and that treatments were far more effective in saving lives. But that isn’t what the legacy media reported out about the statements. Because of their selective editing of them.

Fauci should’ve been disqualified and removed when he started badgering Cruz about the January 6 event. That definitely is not science.

And just remember. Fauci is the equivalent of the DMV doctor. I think I treated as many patients as he has the century. He is to medicine what those three dumb ass generals calling for a coup Are to combat. Managed from a distance, running government programs, And never actually got their hands dirty. He is a manager, not a clinician.

ABNAK
12-28-21, 13:33
Do we have any entities, be they private or government, that have made "boosters" mandatory YET (key word there)?

It's coming. I'll put my paycheck on it.

mRad
12-28-21, 13:46
I’m waiting on Pfizer to develop and insulin pump-like device that just delivers constant COVID “vaccine” dose to the wearer so they are constantly vaccinated.


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chuckman
12-28-21, 13:50
Do we have any entities, be they private or government, that have made "boosters" mandatory YET (key word there)?

It's coming. I'll put my paycheck on it.

My employer. Jan 21 or hit the street if you don't have an exemption.

I'm still exempt through September.

Todd.K
12-28-21, 14:22
Not that they don’t how or where, but rather it isn’t being done. They run generic COVID-19 tests. To get a variant confirmation requires that the physician “really really” wants to know.


Got it. So there is probably very little actual testing and that means it’s a WAG or some “modeling” BS.

That means the “experts” did this while people could still be dying of delta or even the wuhan version.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-pauses-allocation-regeneron-lilly-covid-19-antibodies-2021-12-23/

Honu
12-28-21, 14:34
I do not doubt this will be our future at some point

physical money will go away your online access will only be granted with proper VAX credentials in order so you will be allowed to get limited access to your money for purchases they deem appropriate ! based of course on your now online only voting record and your now online only ID and your banks of course tied to the GOV soon to be taken over completely etc..

Diamondback
12-28-21, 14:51
I do not doubt this will be our future at some point

physical money will go away your online access will only be granted with proper VAX credentials in order so you will be allowed to get limited access to your money for purchases they deem appropriate ! based of course on your now online only voting record and your now online only ID and your banks of course tied to the GOV soon to be taken over completely etc..

And the other variables in your Social Credit Score, just like the Chicoms...

Averageman
12-28-21, 15:17
Got it. So there is probably very little actual testing and that means it’s a WAG or some “modeling” BS.

That means the “experts” did this while people could still be dying of delta or even the wuhan version.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-pauses-allocation-regeneron-lilly-covid-19-antibodies-2021-12-23/

From my understanding, now since I have been enlightened here is that yes, they test for COVID-19, but which variant requires a little more intense testing.
Perhaps the remaining parts of the sample may go forward for more testing, but we really don't have that as fact.
However, that doesn't stop the MSM from reporting numbers and types of Covid.
So is it Covid, Delta or Omnicron?
Well that will apparently be determined by the Press.
So we as the Public are again left without the truth.
Ask yourself how are they able to change testing on the fly so quickly?
Ask yourself why if initially reported to appear like a cold, would you ever need "Booster" for a cold?
Ask yourself if you trust the MSM and where are they getting their information from?

kirkland
12-28-21, 15:20
I don't get the motivation. Do they all own stocks in the companies they're feeding with our money??? That would be too transparent I'd guess.

I never used to believe in conspiracy theories before this pandemic hit. But with my own eyes I'm seeing big tech, big media, big pharmaceutical corporations, and the government all conspire to fear monger, censor any opposing thought, and milk this pandemic for all it's worth. It has become stunningly obvious for a good while now that this whole thing is about the money from the jabs and the power they're gaining from the pandemic. Pushing endless boosters that are increasingly ineffective against the new variants, pushing to get all the children jabbed when they're already naturally at negligible risk of death or serious illness from the virus. The downplaying of adverse effects from the vaccines, the covering up of alternative treatments like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, the censoring and gaslighting of anyone who speaks out against the official narrative. Look up Dr. Peter McCullough, he has some interesting things to say about the failure of the medical community to treat the disease early in the pandemic.

We know companies like Pfizer are raking in billions from the vaccines. Who owns Pfizer and Moderna? Some of the richest people in the world? Do they also own the media companies? Is that why the media is pushing the vaccines so hard? Are they in bed with the politicians who are mandating the vaccines? Who stands to gain from this? Follow the money.

Even bigger than all that is the global power grab and erosion of freedom we are seeing in every western country in the world. Look at Australia. They're arresting people at their homes and sending them to covid camps. People have also been arrested for the "crime" of leaving their homes. Australia has gone full totalitarian. People's lives and buisnesses have been shut down in Europe, Canada, the US. The UK is locking down again because of Omicron which has so far showed to be a much less deadly variant. We're not as bad here as Australia yet, except maybe in New York where you're not allowed to even enter a buisness or work unless you're "fully vaccinated" which is an ever changing definition as more and more boosters are required to remain in compliance. New York has considered Australian style covid camps where the governor would be able to send anyone who is a "danger to the community" there for 60 days. Who gave the government such power? Since when can they tell you where you can and cannot go and force you to lose your livelihood? When you have committed no crime. We are supposed to be a free people.

The only thing that is keeping us from ending up like China is our constitution and the power of states. Places like Florida and Texas have said F U to the federal government. I pray more and more people will wake up and speak out against this tyranny. We have seen major protests all over the world, of course none of it is covered my the national media propaganda machine.

The worst part is all the brainwashed morons who go along with all of this and shame and ridicule their fellow citizens who dare to think for themselves. Self imposed mask police and jab nazis, cancel culture. The media has stoked division and hatred in the country for years, that's also part of the plan, a people divided cannot stand together.

Inkslinger
12-28-21, 15:38
I never used to believe in conspiracy theories before this pandemic hit. But with my own eyes I'm seeing big tech, big media, big pharmaceutical corporations, and the government all conspire to fear monger, censor any opposing thought, and milk this pandemic for all it's worth. It has become stunningly obvious for a good while now that this whole thing is about the money from the jabs and the power they're gaining from the pandemic. Pushing endless boosters that are increasingly ineffective against the new variants, pushing to get all the children jabbed when they're already naturally at negligible risk of death or serious illness from the virus. The downplaying of adverse effects from the vaccines, the covering up of alternative treatments like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, the censoring and gaslighting of anyone who speaks out against the official narrative. Look up Dr. Peter McCullough, he has some interesting things to say about the failure of the medical community to treat the disease early in the pandemic.

We know companies like Pfizer are raking in billions from the vaccines. Who owns Pfizer and Moderna? Some of the richest people in the world? Do they also own the media companies? Is that why the media is pushing the vaccines so hard? Are they in bed with the politicians who are mandating the vaccines? Who stands to gain from this? Follow the money.

Even bigger than all that is the global power grab and erosion of freedom we are seeing in every western country in the world. Look at Australia. They're arresting people at their homes and sending them to covid camps. People have also been arrested for the "crime" of leaving their homes. Australia has gone full totalitarian. People's lives and buisnesses have been shut down in Europe, Canada, the US. The UK is locking down again because of Omicron which has so far showed to be a much less deadly variant. We're not as bad here as Australia yet, except maybe in New York where you're not allowed to even enter a buisness or work unless you're "fully vaccinated" which is an ever changing definition as more and more boosters are required to remain in compliance. New York has considered Australian style covid camps where the governor would be able to send anyone who is a "danger to the community" there for 60 days. Who gave the government such power? Since when can they tell you where you can and cannot go and force you to lose your livelihood? When you have committed no crime. We are supposed to be a free people.

The only thing that is keeping us from ending up like China is our constitution and the power of states. Places like Florida and Texas have said F U to the federal government. I pray more and more people will wake up and speak out against this tyranny. We have seen major protests all over the world, of course none of it is covered my the national media propaganda machine.

The worst part is all the brainwashed morons who go along with all of this and shame and ridicule their fellow citizens who dare to think for themselves. Self imposed mask police and jab nazis, cancel culture. The media has stoked division and hatred in the country for years, that's also part of the plan, a people divided cannot stand together.

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prepare
12-28-21, 16:15
I never used to believe in conspiracy theories before this pandemic hit. But with my own eyes I'm seeing big tech, big media, big pharmaceutical corporations, and the government all conspire to fear monger, censor any opposing thought, and milk this pandemic for all it's worth. It has become stunningly obvious for a good while now that this whole thing is about the money from the jabs and the power they're gaining from the pandemic. Pushing endless boosters that are increasingly ineffective against the new variants, pushing to get all the children jabbed when they're already naturally at negligible risk of death or serious illness from the virus. The downplaying of adverse effects from the vaccines, the covering up of alternative treatments like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, the censoring and gaslighting of anyone who speaks out against the official narrative. Look up Dr. Peter McCullough, he has some interesting things to say about the failure of the medical community to treat the disease early in the pandemic.

We know companies like Pfizer are raking in billions from the vaccines. Who owns Pfizer and Moderna? Some of the richest people in the world? Do they also own the media companies? Is that why the media is pushing the vaccines so hard? Are they in bed with the politicians who are mandating the vaccines? Who stands to gain from this? Follow the money.

Even bigger than all that is the global power grab and erosion of freedom we are seeing in every western country in the world. Look at Australia. They're arresting people at their homes and sending them to covid camps. People have also been arrested for the "crime" of leaving their homes. Australia has gone full totalitarian. People's lives and buisnesses have been shut down in Europe, Canada, the US. The UK is locking down again because of Omicron which has so far showed to be a much less deadly variant. We're not as bad here as Australia yet, except maybe in New York where you're not allowed to even enter a buisness or work unless you're "fully vaccinated" which is an ever changing definition as more and more boosters are required to remain in compliance. New York has considered Australian style covid camps where the governor would be able to send anyone who is a "danger to the community" there for 60 days. Who gave the government such power? Since when can they tell you where you can and cannot go and force you to lose your livelihood? When you have committed no crime. We are supposed to be a free people.

The only thing that is keeping us from ending up like China is our constitution and the power of states. Places like Florida and Texas have said F U to the federal government. I pray more and more people will wake up and speak out against this tyranny. We have seen major protests all over the world, of course none of it is covered my the national media propaganda machine.

The worst part is all the brainwashed morons who go along with all of this and shame and ridicule their fellow citizens who dare to think for themselves. Self imposed mask police and jab nazis, cancel culture. The media has stoked division and hatred in the country for years, that's also part of the plan, a people divided cannot stand together.
Very well said!

prepare
12-28-21, 16:17
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This was never a crisis to begin with. This was entirely intentionally orchestrated.

Averageman
12-28-21, 16:19
Here is what doesn't add up to me.
I'm nobody, a retired soldier and mechanic, nobody essentially in the grand scheme of things.
That this is obvious to me means what?
Well it's not very well hidden is it?
So why do I see this and others don't?

We are talking about a multinational money and power grab here.
One of the largest that has ever occurred.
So, why isn't this obvious to everyone?

FromMyColdDeadHand
12-28-21, 16:31
This was never a crisis to begin with. This was entirely intentionally orchestrated.

The worst pandemic in a century and we..
didn't build one new hospital
didn't add one new permanent ICU bed
didn't ramp up domestic production of enough PPE
they tell people that crappy PPE will protect them
didn't 'draft' people into health care (we actually drummed people out)
redefined 'vaccine' to suit the performance of a suboptimal solution
All for a disease that you have to take a test to see if you have it, and force people to take a cure for....

FromMyColdDeadHand
12-28-21, 16:35
Got it. So there is probably very little actual testing and that means it’s a WAG or some “modeling” BS.

That means the “experts” did this while people could still be dying of delta or even the wuhan version.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-pauses-allocation-regeneron-lilly-covid-19-antibodies-2021-12-23/

They also monitor waste water flows, so they can probably get some idea from that.

ABNAK
12-28-21, 16:40
Heard on the radio today while on the way home (conservative talk radio, not MSM news) that the CDC had to revise their estimates of the % of COVID that is actually Omicron.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/587506-cdc-lowers-estimate-of-omicron-prevalence-in-us

From the article linked above: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on Tuesday significantly revised downward the estimate of the percentage of new COVID-19 infections in the U.S. caused by the omicron variant of the virus.

According to agency data, omicron accounted for about 59 percent of all U.S. infections as of Dec. 25. Previously, the CDC said the omicron variant comprised 73 percent of all cases for the week ending Dec. 18. But that number has now been revised to 22.5 percent of all cases.

Inkslinger
12-28-21, 16:41
This was never a crisis to begin with. This was entirely intentionally orchestrated.

I think it goes without saying, a “crisis” can be intentionally orchestrated.

mRad
12-28-21, 16:54
Heard on the radio today while on the way home (conservative talk radio, not MSM news) that the CDC had to revise their estimates of the % of COVID that is actually Omicron.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/587506-cdc-lowers-estimate-of-omicron-prevalence-in-us

From the article linked above: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on Tuesday significantly revised downward the estimate of the percentage of new COVID-19 infections in the U.S. caused by the omicron variant of the virus.

According to agency data, omicron accounted for about 59 percent of all U.S. infections as of Dec. 25. Previously, the CDC said the omicron variant comprised 73 percent of all cases for the week ending Dec. 18. But that number has now been revised to 22.5 percent of all cases.

Hmmmm. It’s almost like they don’t have a clue what is going on.


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ABNAK
12-28-21, 16:58
Hmmmm. It’s almost like they don’t have a clue what is going on.


Yeah, no shit right? After damn near TWO friggin' years of this crap the clue phone apparently isn't ringing at the CDC. :rolleyes:

SteveS
12-28-21, 19:24
It seems to be, but we have a nation of Tv watching drones that with out a germ of discernment think what the Tv tells them to think and will do what the Tv tells them to do.

Diamondback
12-28-21, 19:25
Ironically, as I look at the symptom profile, the "omicron variant" might actually be the safest and most effective "vaccine" around... frankly, if I was tinkering with Wuhan trying to create an "anti-virus" if you will, something like the role cowpox can play in immunizing against smallpox, so far Omicron's looking pretty much like what I'd want to create and deploy as a "C19-killer."

SteveS
12-28-21, 19:25
Will we realize most of the Cv19 deaths were caused by medical malpractice?

Diamondback
12-28-21, 19:30
Will we realize most of the Cv19 deaths were caused by medical malpractice?

That's about as likely as Fauci & Co. getting the Judgment at Nuremberg they deserve.

Todd.K
12-28-21, 23:48
They also monitor waste water flows, so they can probably get some idea from that.

No, there are no scientists diligently checking waste water for variants. The CDC just “estimates” it.

camoman
12-29-21, 07:31
I really hope people smarten up, and realize what’s truly happening here.
I don’t have a whole bunch of faith that will happen, but I truly do hope so.

FromMyColdDeadHand
12-29-21, 08:33
Ironically, as I look at the symptom profile, the "omicron variant" might actually be the safest and most effective "vaccine" around... frankly, if I was tinkering with Wuhan trying to create an "anti-virus" if you will, something like the role cowpox can play in immunizing against smallpox, so far Omicron's looking pretty much like what I'd want to create and deploy as a "C19-killer."

I’ve been saying this for about a month. Not quite as engineered for it, but that nature sure seems to be giving us a hand here. When I would say this I would definitely get people start to look nervous. Talking about masks is one thing, this is another.


No, there are no scientists diligently checking waste water for variants. The CDC just “estimates” it.

https://covid19.colorado.gov/covid-19-monitoring-in-wastewater

The state is collaborating with labs and wastewater utilities to test for COVID-19 virus particles in wastewater. The virus can appear in poop before someone shows any symptoms. People who don’t show symptoms also can shed the virus. Testing wastewater can give health officials early warnings about increases or decreases in COVID-19 cases within a community.

mRad
12-29-21, 10:09
They most certainly are checking wastewater. Omicron was found in wastewater here before the first confirmed case. However, most cases aren’t variant tested anyway.


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Averageman
12-29-21, 10:37
Ironically, as I look at the symptom profile, the "omicron variant" might actually be the safest and most effective "vaccine" around... frankly, if I was tinkering with Wuhan trying to create an "anti-virus" if you will, something like the role cowpox can play in immunizing against smallpox, so far Omicron's looking pretty much like what I'd want to create and deploy as a "C19-killer."

I mentioned something like this earlier in the thread, if your going to get natural antibodies, this is the one.

Biden is, with Harris's help slowly trying to back out of this mess.
The first mention of this has come out, he seems to be capitulating control to the States (as it always should have been.). I think you'll see more on this soon.
You can't vaccinate your way out of this, as I have said before, you either have a virus, or you have a vaccine, but you dont have both.

TAZ
12-29-21, 12:15
I mentioned something like this earlier in the thread, if your going to get natural antibodies, this is the one.

Biden is, with Harris's help slowly trying to back out of this mess.
The first mention of this has come out, he seems to be capitulating control to the States (as it always should have been.). I think you'll see more on this soon.
You can't vaccinate your way out of this, as I have said before, you either have a virus, or you have a vaccine, but you dont have both.

I am half wondering if they are beginning to realize the gig is up and its time to deflect and shift focus. We will now see a year of campaigning based on the "free" states being the spreaders of death ala gun control. Sadly, the majority dumbasses of this nation will buy it.

FromMyColdDeadHand
12-29-21, 14:35
I am half wondering if they are beginning to realize the gig is up and its time to deflect and shift focus. We will now see a year of campaigning based on the "free" states being the spreaders of death ala gun control. Sadly, the majority dumbasses of this nation will buy it.

That is been one of their lines. How guns in northern Indiana don’t cause any problems, but when they jump over an invisible line into Chicago they cause Mayham. It looks like they are abandoning the build back better craziness in our shifting back to voting rights. All to try to kill the filibuster. Then scones actually correctly interprets the constitution and makes some decisions in Q2, they’ll go after the Supreme Court with packing or some other craziness.