Swiss shooting 2022

[OLIAR15]

I thought I’d start a new thread rather than revive last year’s one, which is here

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Had a busy weekend with four competitions, the first ones this year.

Started Friday afternoon with a 300 m rifle competition (“the friendship shootout”, several regional clubs take turns each year for organising it) with my trusty Stgw 57/03 (i.e. modified).

Beautiful day but quite windy, and I was not particularly happy with my scores, 120/150, 10 shots shot by shot and 5 shots in series (i.e. you only see the scores and the end of the 5 shots string). Only 5 warm up shots allowed.

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Pre loaded 3 mags of GP11

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Saturday morning was just some leisurely shooting at my club. Amongst others I shot the S&W 48 in . 22 magnum (25 m).

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In the afternoon I went to my other club in order to shoot for the qualifying round of the state group 25 meter pistol championship. Group consists of four shooters, there is a qualifying round then the first second and third round and for those who make it, the finals in the fall

The format is 3×5 shots on the precision target in five minutes each time followed by 3×5 shots in the duel mode where the target appears for three seconds and disappears for seven seconds on the speed target

I was super happy with my first pass and then proceeded to botch the second one. Duel result was ok, and 264/300 is acceptable, especially for my first competition shooting one handed and with this new gun. I hope my scores will improve and increase throughout the various rounds over the season

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Sunday morning a group of 10 from my club went to another club close to Geneva where they organised their “spring shooting”. I decided to participate in both the pistol 25 and 50 m and the rifle 300 m competition. Not many people do that, they tend to focus exclusively on either pistol or rifle.

There is even occasionally some bad blood between both categories. In the Swiss army, pistols were generally reserved for officers whereas rifle were for grunts obviously. Therefore in the old days the pistol shooting community sometimes tended to look down on the rifle shooters, which is quite stupid.

Anyway we started with the 50 m category, three warmup shots and only five competition shots in five minutes

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44/50

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Then 25 m. 3×5 shot in 50 seconds each followed by 3×5 shot in 50, 40, 30 seconds respectively on the speed target. 5 warm up shots

My first pass was nice with 4 tens and an eight

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And the first pass of the 30 seconds was equally nice

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322/350, room for improvement but overall I am quite happy with that, finished second in our club’s group (I don’t have the overall ranking yet)

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And then moved on to the 300 meter rifle. 5 warm up shots than six shots shot by shot, six shots in series, blind, and then 12 shots, six shot by shot and six in series again. I need to shoot some more rifle in order to improve but it’s difficult to find the time

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To be continued ….

[OLIAR15]

Last evening was .22 lr day at my club

Shot my 1949 P49 with the .22lr conversion

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And a 1939 Walther PPK in .22 lr

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[GNXII]

Wow, even your ammo is time period correct, I think! That box of Rem 22s has to be from 60’s or 70’s time period…

[OLIAR15]

Those classic guns were shot a bit earlier in the season at 25 m

1977 Colt Python .38 WC

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1984 Sig P210-1 9 mm

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1970 Sig P210-1 7.65 mm

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1980 Sig P230 9 mm police

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[OLIAR15]

Last weekend my club organised its yearly pistol competition, 50 and 25 meters, open to other clubs on invitation. I mostly acted as a range officer and referee but I also took the time to compete on Thursday.

We started with the 50 m competition, 2 warm up shots and 10 shots in 8 minutes.

I botched that one. 77/100. My earlier practice was more promising :

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The 25 m competition was 3 X 5 shots in 50, 40 and 30 seconds on the speed target.

That went a lot better, 140/150. And I was particularly happy that I did not shoot outside the nine ring, even though my second string was 5 nines, really circling around the ten

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Now we have a small team of five who benefit from the coaching of a great marksman. We started in February at the 10 m air pistol, and now moved to 25 and 50 m pistol.

He is the friend and colleague of one of our member, a policeman. He won 27 national titles, several top tens in world championship and world cups, he was also 10 years on the local SWAT team (called DARD, Détachement d'action rapide et de dissuasion).

We naturally invited him and he honoured us by his presence on Saturday.

He wasn’t too happy with his 50 m performance, maybe he was a bit rushed, didn’t like his body position and shot 93/100. Three tens and seven nines. Great grouping though, but a tad to the right.

Then came the 25 m. Hat trick, 3 X 50

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We finished with a nice lunch on Sunday, pork roast, with some local wine.

[MadAngler1]

Awesome stuff. Does your club have the ability to host IDPA or steel challenge style matches like we do here in America?

[OLIAR15]

Awesome stuff. Does your club have the ability to host IDPA or steel challenge style matches like we do here in America?

No, it’s only designed for 25 and 50 m target shooting. Some other ranges are designed for IPSC.

[OLIAR15]

The target portal on my club’s pistol range was dead on Saturday, no electricity. Maybe a rodent chew an electric cable.

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So I went across to the 300 m rifle range instead .

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Windy day with changing light conditions, from sunny to overcast. Our best sharpshooters complained about the changing luminosity; didn’t bother me, guess I’m not good enough

I had the K31 in the trunk of the car.

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I added 2 inches to the butt, the length of pull was designed for soldiers with 5’3” height. I’m 6’3”

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Bullseye !!

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Not very good results but steady [emoji16]

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Then I quickly picked up my Stgw 57/03 from home (1/2 mile away)

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View from the tunnel

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Shot 87 twice, then 91, with an amazing (for me) five shot string (3-7) in the ten ring (10 cm, 4”). (Forgot to set up the program with printout).

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Room for improvement, but I had a ton of fun.

[OLIAR15]

I remembered that my S&W Third Model Single Shot (Perfected Target Pistol) turned 100 this year so I took it to the 50 meter range

We shot 90/100, not bad at all

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Vintage Swiss match ammo was used

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[TheAlsatian]

Very nice!

[The Dumb Gun Collector]

That range is gorgeous

[OLIAR15]

And shot a 105 years old pistol today, 1917 DWM Luger artillerie

It shoots a bit high but what a grouping offhand at 25 m

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[OLIAR15]

Glorious day at the outdoor range in canton Valais

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Started at 25m with my new HK Mk23

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S&W 610 10MM with the new Culina grips

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Tried the HK 93, worked flawlessly

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The range officer was unwell so we had to cut the session short

I had some .45 ACP left so I fired some more rounds with my 1943 type II Remington Rand 1911 A1 before leaving

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Feeling a little frustrated, I headed to another range nearby. It’s a military style one so calibers are restricted to ordnance (which means 9 mm or less here). I only had one, an HK P8

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A great day in the end

[OLIAR15]

End June a dozen members of my shooting club participated in the canton (state) Vaud shooting. Each of the 26 Swiss canton organises a state shooting competition every five or six years or so. Distances are 25 and 50 m for pistol (300 meter for rifles).

There are typically four categories for pistols, Rimfire, Ordinance, centrefire, free pistol. There are various discipline, Precision, Speed, duel etc. Targets used are precision and speed targets ISSF

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The 25 meters range

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I used the Pardini Rimfire and a SIG P210–6 ordnance pistol. Trigger pull is checked and a sticker is applied to the gun when it passes. 1000 grams for rimfire, 1360 gr for (old) ordnance pistols (1500 for newer ones)

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The 50 m range

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One of our lady member, a good shot and tough competitor

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Results. There is a threshold to reach, which varies with weapon used and age group, to obtain a distinction. That distinction then gives you a medal or a voucher

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[OLIAR15]

Out of the ten disciplines I chose, I obtained seven distinctions and missed two by one point. The medals are different depending on how many distinctions you’ve got. I ask why it’s only written five distinction on my printout result sheet, they answered that this is the highest you can get

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I went back on Sunday to try and obtain the 25 m grand mastery in the ordnance category

This consists of 60 shots, 30 precision and 30 duel speed, meaning the target appears three seconds and disappears seven seconds

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Precision

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Duel

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The threshold to obtain the grand mastery in the ordnance pistol category is 505 points. If you mess up you’ll have to wait another five or six years to try again. Also you can only obtain it once per state. A few of the senior shooters have managed all 26 probably over a 30 years period

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LP stands for Liberté et Patrie, Freedom and homeland, the Canton Vaud motto

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[OLIAR15]

Tuesdays and Saturdays are reserved for Rimfire at my club, in order to reduce the noise burden for the neighbourhood

At 50 m, I shot the 1975 Colt SP1 with a CMMG conversion, reliable, accurate and tons of cheap fun

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And the Browning / FN trombone pump action

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Moved on to the 25 m range and used a P210-1 with a .22lr conversion

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We have a couple of new member at the club, including a 27 years young lady. She had shot maybe twice in her life with her sister (an army lieutenant) before joining us in early July. I’ve coached her a bit and lent her some guns as she does not have any yet.

We shot maybe six or eight times together. She produced this group at 25 meters with my 1960 S&W model 17 (offhand)

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I asked her to keep going and give me a ten shots group

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Needless to say she has great natural skills and a progression speed I haven’t seen before

[georgeib]

Wow, that first 5 round she shot is probably approaching the mechanical accuracy of the pistol. Impressive!

[OLIAR15]

So I took the young lady to another outdoor shooting range which allows a broader range of weapons

She shot the Colt M4

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The suppressed HK MP5

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Remington 700 SPS in .308

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The FAL and Ithaca 37

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And finally back to handguns with a Dan Wesson 15-2 VH in .357 magnum at 25 meters.

She had to aim a bit lower and to the left in order to hit the middle, making it even harder.

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And did she hit it !!! 27 yrs young (I said that already), 5’2.5”, 114 lbs. Never shot a .357 Magnum before. I’m speechless

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[Bret]

Tried the HK 93, worked flawlessly

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Is that a Promag? I use them in my MKE Z-43 and they surprisingly run flawlessly.

[OLIAR15]

Is that a Promag? I use them in my MKE Z-43 and they surprisingly run flawlessly.

Yes, same here, they’ve been very reliable so far, to my great astonishment

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[RioGrandeGreen]

Awesome post sir, keep impressing us with every post.

[Pappabear]

What are the green boxes you shoot through on the rifle range? Do explain please, never seen those.

PB

[georgeib]

What are the green boxes you shoot through on the rifle range? Do explain please, never seen those.

PBNot Oli, but they appear to be designed to contain the blast from the rifles, and perhaps also to mitigate glare. Very civilized!

[OLIAR15]

Yes, they are noise reduction tunnels. It reduces the inconvenience for the neighbourhood

[OLIAR15]

Yesterday was another .22 only session at the local club. I was alone, seems my shooting buddies lost their motivation at the end of this season, it felt like it was my own private range.

I started with rifles, the Ruger precision and Savage Mk II. After checking that they were still well sighted in on paper, I scattered 3 dozen golf balls on the berm 55 meters away, and had a ton of fun making them dance and fly around

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I read abt that on a forum. I also had a similar session with our new young members a few weeks ago, the smile on their faces says it all

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Then I aspired to some calm, so I installed the Norwegian A-Tec silencer I recently bought

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Since I switched from high velocity to standard velocity ammo, the point of impact was 2 inches low and 1 inch to the left, with both rifles. I didn’t feel like messing with the scope settings so I just used some good old Kentucky windage

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Then I pulled out some gongs, both at 25 and 50 meters, rifle and pistols

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Colt service model ace with the same silencer

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Ruger MkII with integral silencer

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S&W 17-6

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Finally made some serious noise with a Marlin 983T in .22 Magnum

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And a S&W 48-2 in .22 Magnum also

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A fantastic morning turning money into noise and fun

[OLIAR15]

Took five nice handguns to the range yesterday. It’s open from 5 to 8 pm, but by 7 pm the light vanishes and it gets quite dark

All at 25 meters offhand

1984 Sig P210-1

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1979 Colt Gvt model Mk IV ser 70 in 9 mm

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1984 Manurhin MR73

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1980 FN GP35 Competition

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1990 S&W 610 with .40 S&W

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Then as it was getting quite dark, I shot a few duel sessions, where the target appears for 3 seconds and disappears for 7. It was an interesting challenge to do this drill in low light conditions.

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[OLIAR15]

Today a few friends from our shooting club and I were again invited to a shooting challenge organised by the shooting society of the Lausanne police corps.

5 practice shots (2&3) and then 4 X 5 shots in 5 minutes, 3 minutes, 1 minute and 40 seconds on the ISSF speed target at 25 meters for a total max of 200 points (warm up shots being used in case of a tie)

My weapon of choice in the ordnance division is my 1979 made Sig P210-6 in 7.65 mm parabellum (.30 Luger). The vintage Swiss military ammo is very accurate.

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Loaded and ready to compete

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2 warm up shots, great

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3 warm up shots, got carried away by the first two and lost my focus a bit

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1st pass, 49

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2nd pass, 47
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3rd pass, 49 again

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Last pass, 46, slightly disappointing

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Total score of 191 put me in second place overall, amongst some 25 competitors

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We finished again with a great meal of garlic shrimps and some fine wines. A great day was had by all.

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[OLIAR15]

The weather has been nice with really mild temperatures for the season, so I spent some time at the outdoor range today with various toys.

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I started with handguns at 25 meters

S&W 48-2 in .22 Magnum

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S&W 627-0 in .357 Magnum

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Then a LAR Grizzly in .45 Win Mag

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I finished off that target with some 12 ga slugs from the Ithaca 37

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Then the Auto Mag in .44 AMP

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Then some rifles at 50 meters

Winchester M14 in 7.62 NATO

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HK 93 in 5.56 NATO

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Suppressed HK MP5 9 mm

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I was not very accurate today, I mostly wanted to have fun without too much concentration (and my glasses were fogging up).

And Lord did I have a ton of fun

[georgeib]

It's been said before, but it bears repeating that you have an enviable firearm collection, Oli! Thank you for continuing to share with us.

[OLIAR15]

Last few outdoor sessions in December before the range closes for a few weeks holidays. Handguns 25 m rifles 50 m

Manurhin MR38

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Suppressed Ruger MKII

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Steyr AUG A1

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Colt AR-15 A2 Gvt Model

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US M2 (Inland) and M1 (Underwood)

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HK 33

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FN FAL G1

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[MarshallDodge]

Not sure how I missed this thread but I just discovered a gem. Thanks for sharing and I am looking forward to your 2023 thread!

[TheAlsatian]

Oliver's posts are always gems. My fave part of this site.

[OLIAR15]

I totally forgot to report on two landmarks of shooting in Switzerland : the field shooting and the compulsory shooting

I did both, in both categories, 25 m pistol and 300 m rifle

Both times we were invited in another club for the field shooting, but stayed in our own club for the compulsory shooting.

Pistol : Sig P210-6 in .30 Luger. Ordnance target.

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Field is 18 shots, 3 in slow fire (20 secs per shot) and 3 X 5 shots in 50, 40 and 30 seconds

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Total of 172/180, honorable mention and a medal

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Compulsory is similar but with 20 shots, 5 in slow fire (60 secs per shot) and 3 X 5 shots in 50, 40 and 30 seconds

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196/200 and honorable mention

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Rifle field

The range

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Stgw 57

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Field is 18 shots, 6 in slow fire (60 secs per shot) and 2 X 3 shots in 60 secs each serie and 6 shots in 60 secs

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55/72, disappointing score, honorable mention but no medal

Compulsory

Home range

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Stgw 90

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The field target

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Compulsory is 20 shots, 2 X 5 in slow fire and 2 + 3 shots followed by 5 shots in rapid fire

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69/85, honorable mention

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