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Was going thru security check-point and my luggage was flagged for inspection. They said an empty magazine isnt allowed. I knowingly carried it because i thought it was okay.
Was going thru security check-point and my luggage was flagged for inspection. They said an empty magazine isnt allowed. I knowingly carried it because i thought it was okay.
Simple rule: assume anything gun related is inside locked box, and follow their rules/guidelines for ammo, usually = zero drama in my experience. I would not expect an empty mag to get through security. That's way over estimating the knowledge of any TSA types to allow it.
Simple: look at the rules/guidelines of the specific airline you are using for firearms, follow to the letter.
Simple rule: assume anything gun related is inside locked box, and follow their rules/guidelines for ammo, usually = zero drama in my experience. I would not expect an empty mag to get through security. That's way over estimating the knowledge of any TSA types to allow it. Simple: look at the rules/guidelines of the specific airline you are using for firearms, follow to the letter.
This. They're much more likely to miss it than allow it.
Defaultmp3
08-14-22, 13:06
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/parts-guns-and-firearms
Maybe... read the rules next time instead of making assumptions?
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/parts-guns-and-firearms
Maybe... read the rules next time instead of making assumptions?
I'm surprised he didn't assume his way into being detained for a while and missing his flight just to bust his nads as they can be prone to do. Depending on the airport, the agent you get, the TSA renta cops you get, if having a bad day and wanna give you bad day, and other variables, his could have been a very long day...
Simple rule: assume anything gun related is inside locked box, and follow their rules/guidelines for ammo, usually = zero drama in my experience. I would not expect an empty mag to get through security. That's way over estimating the knowledge of any TSA types to allow it.
Simple: look at the rules/guidelines of the specific airline you are using for firearms, follow to the letter.
+1
Absolutely sound callout
+1
Absolutely sound callout
Due to following that, probably flown 20 times or more with firearms, zero drama. I have noticed different airlines and or airports, have slightly different rules and approaches. I print out the rules of the airline I'm flying and have them with me in case some clueless agent, etc. gets hinky. One lady agent who clearly didn't approve of guns by her face and body language said the ammo should be in the locked case with the gun, and I showed her - very politely of course - where it was the opposite, but had to be in the original packaging and no more than 50rnds per her/that airline. Potential drama averted.
Some are not aware the lock on the box containing the gun should not be TSA lock they can open, and only you should have that key/combo. That came up once, handy print out to the rescue. Never assume they know their own rules...
One time TSA agent wanted to go in the back and take a look, and we ended up having a nice 20 min talk about guns and such. He also said things like "I wish more of the people we deal with followed the simple instructions as you have" and so forth.
It's not rocket science.
I flew out of Newark with a firearm, I told the lovely lady (joke in case you haven't been to Newark) when I checked in, and she didn't reply. I told her three time that I was declaring a firearm before she finally said she heard me the first time and didn't care. I found some Newark PD guys and let them know, that way if anything happened at least someone knew I tried. I flew out of Seatac one time and had an even worse experience,
Reading the rules is great, but its not like they are professionals actually following them or anything.
I always fly with a pistol in my checked bag, not because I think I might need it where I am going. But I have noticed that the airlines take batter care of a bag with a gun in it. While most people are waiting to get their bags mine go to the baggage office of the airline. Last Tuesday had a very nice talk in French with 2 people from Cote d'Ivoire, they loved me once they found out I had spent time in their country.
Straight Shooter
08-15-22, 08:03
The last time I flew & ever will fly was to the NRA Convention in HoustonTX in 2005. Had a Charlten Heston Silver Bullet on my keychain- THEY TOOK IT.
Luckily- on the way back home, we met a dude in the NRA, told him the story, and he sent me another one some time later. Absolutely F the airline industry, I lll never fly again, not just because that..but that time and a couple others I sat near a couple of severely stinking people, for hours. Just never again.
I flew out of Newark with a firearm, I told the lovely lady (joke in case you haven't been to Newark) when I checked in, and she didn't reply. I told her three time that I was declaring a firearm before she finally said she heard me the first time and didn't care. I found some Newark PD guys and let them know, that way if anything happened at least someone knew I tried. I flew out of Seatac one time and had an even worse experience,
Reading the rules is great, but its not like they are professionals actually following them or anything.
I'll see your Newark and raise you one Philly. I hate that it's my home airport. Every TSA agent there is angry at life in general.
I'll see your Newark and raise you one Philly. I hate that it's my home airport. Every TSA agent there is angry at life in general.
It was at Philly that I had the counter girl make derogatory comments about me having been in the service. That complaint went all the way up, and each time I refused anything they wanted to credit me for, or pay me. The assurance of "we'll make sure it doesn't happen again" from the cheerful phone person didn't cut it. When I finally got a call back telling me they had it narrowed down to two different people, I figured I was talking to someone taking it serious.
Yeah, Philly sucks pretty hard as well, but their cops are talkative and real dudes once they understand you are on the same page as them.
Was going thru security check-point and my luggage was flagged for inspection. They said an empty magazine isnt allowed. I knowingly carried it because i thought it was okay.
My friend got to meet a suit years ago for the same thing
SeriousStudent
08-15-22, 19:38
I usually fly with a Beretta 92 that's been through the hands of Langdon Tactical Technology, and a Scandium J-frame. I take the slide and barrel off the Beretta, and take the cylinder off the crane. So they look REALLY broken down. All those pieces and the mags are in a locked Pelican case, inside my checked hard-side luggage.
If at all possible, I fly Southwest. But I still carry laminated copies of their policies, and the TSA policies, just in case.
The last time I flew, the lady checking my bags asked for me to open my luggage, and unlock the Pelican case. She spotted the NP3 parts and said "Wow, is that from Langdon? Nice!!"
Be still my beating heart......
I told her yes, and asked if she was married. She just laughed and said "Yeah, some of us are big kids here. My husband carries one of those."
The good ones are always married.
It was at Philly that I had the counter girl make derogatory comments about me having been in the service. That complaint went all the way up, and each time I refused anything they wanted to credit me for, or pay me. The assurance of "we'll make sure it doesn't happen again" from the cheerful phone person didn't cut it. When I finally got a call back telling me they had it narrowed down to two different people, I figured I was talking to someone taking it serious.
Yeah, Philly sucks pretty hard as well, but their cops are talkative and real dudes once they understand you are on the same page as them.
There lies the problem with Philly in general and why that city keeps electing corrupt leadership. The masses have that same mentality as the counter girl. PD is pretty cool. As is FD. My buddy is their department trauma counselor and hostage negotiator. A metric shit ton of them have left the job under this new leadership. And there is no one coming through the academy to replace them. It's not going to get better. Guys who were generational cops (Dad was a cop, grandfather was a cop etc etc) wont let their kids join up. I stopped going into the office in Philly during lockdown. And we closed it and went virtual soon after. 15 years working down there and am happy to not go back.
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