View Full Version : Single action CZ-75s still available?
sierra 223
09-09-22, 17:57
This may seem like a dumb question, I am not very familiar with CZs. I know they used to make a SA version. As best as I can tell they dont make that model anymore?
Can you still carry the DA/SA cocked and locked that they make now?
Thanks for helping me.
Apparently they still make them: https://czusafirearms.com/cz-75b-sa-9mm-luger-01150-single-action/
They did discontinue them in 2018, it seems there was enough demand to bring them back.
To answer your second question, yes the DA CZ75B (and the ambi 85B) can be carried cocked and locked. Everything I have read indicates the CZ 75B SA has a better trigger, which makes sense since less parts affect the trigger pull.
Andy
sierra 223
09-09-22, 20:46
Thank you, some how I had not found that on their web sight.
eightmillimeter
09-10-22, 08:14
Yes they are out there if you look. Have you looked at the Shadow 2? Absolutely phenomenal gun.
Thank you, some how I had not found that on their web sight.
Yeah, site is a little weird. One page shows the SA discontinued in 2018, one shows in stock.
Andy
sierra 223
09-10-22, 11:03
The Shadow 2 sounds great, just like the 75 price tag better. Kinda considering a CZ 75 for carry, I used to have to carry a SIG 226 so I am familiar with the weight for carry.
I am totally fine with 9mm for carry, like the idea of double stack mag, and would like to go single action.
I was really excited about the Springfield SA-35 until all of the problems being reported. Not sure if SA-35 is going to be a serious carry type gun. I am sure they will work out the reliability issues at some point.
Gary1911A1
09-10-22, 11:05
Apparently they still make them: https://czusafirearms.com/cz-75b-sa-9mm-luger-01150-single-action/
They did discontinue them in 2018, it seems there was enough demand to bring them back.
To answer your second question, yes the DA CZ75B (and the ambi 85B) can be carried cocked and locked. Everything I have read indicates the CZ 75B SA has a better trigger, which makes sense since less parts affect the trigger pull.
Andy
I'm no expert, but I'd be careful of that site. I have been wanting one of these too, but when I went to this site it wanted payment through Zelle which I understand is one of those internet currency. It may be a fake site, but I don't know.
I mainly posted the site as a reference for part number, etc. without thinking about someone ordering. Good looking out.
Andy
There seem to be a plethora of fake sites to take people's money now.
If you really want to know, call CZ-USA. They'll steer you right, and yes they have parts for discontinued models. Because you can carry the 75 series C/L I never saw the need for SA. Also, the SA's I've felt had a gritty trigger with the same camming action for takeup - not an ideal SA - so never saw the need. If you add a CGW hammer to a 75 series they can be great so no need for an SA only gun.
Cz custom makes sao conversion triggers.
I did a conversion on a compact years ago that turned out pretty nice.
https://czcustom.com/cz-parts-all/triggers/cz-75-sa-aluminum-trigger-factory-custom.html
Gary1911A1
09-12-22, 07:32
If you have a compatible top end you can still get a CZ 75 SA Frame from CZ Custom. https://czcustom.com/cz-75-parts-kit-frame.html I bet if you don't CZ Custom has a top end that will work.
sierra 223
09-12-22, 09:47
I appreciate the help. I always wanted a BHP and as of now have no trust in Springfields version. I have only held the BHP and the CZ-75 but both felt great.
You said you used to carry a Sig P226. Have you looked at the Legion P226 single action model? Ive only shot one once but it was phenomenal.
Can you still carry the DA/SA cocked and locked that they make now?
A regular CZ75 is effectively a single action pistol. I say this because in order to have a double action first shot, you have to thumb down the hammer while pulling the trigger. Yes it can be done and there are talented people who make it look easy, but the potential for an accidental discharge is certainly there. Plus, once you have the hammer down, the safety will not engage. So, do you want to have the CZ75 with the hammer cocked and the safety on or do you want to have it with the hammer down and the safety off. Those are your two choices. If you choose the latter, then just get the CZ75 BD because it has a built in decocker instead of a manual safety. At this point you're probably wondering what's the point of a regular CZ75 being double action. The only advantage of the double action that I can think of is that you can pull the trigger again (this time it will be a DA pull) if a cartridge doesn't go bang.
the SA's I've felt had a gritty trigger with the same camming action for takeup - not an ideal SA - so never saw the need.
I have one and can confirm this. Perhaps it has better potential if someone is tuning it, but I literally have regular CZ75's with better triggers.
BTW, many of the CZ75 clones actually allow the safety to be engaged if the hammer is thumbed down. So if you want to thumb down the hammer and put the safety on, then a Tanfoglio or Turkish clone is a good alternative.
A regular CZ75 is effectively a single action pistol. I say this because in order to have a double action first shot, you have to thumb down the hammer while pulling the trigger. Yes it can be done and there are talented people who make it look easy, but the potential for an accidental discharge is certainly there. Plus, once you have the hammer down, the safety will not engage. So, do you want to have the CZ75 with the hammer cocked and the safety on or do you want to have it with the hammer down and the safety off. Those are your two choices. If you choose the latter, then just get the CZ75 BD because it has a built in decocker instead of a manual safety. At this point you're probably wondering what's the point of a regular CZ75 being double action. The only advantage of the double action that I can think of is that you can pull the trigger again (this time it will be a DA pull) if a cartridge doesn't go bang.
I have one and can confirm this. Perhaps it has better potential if someone is tuning it, but I literally have regular CZ75's with better triggers.
BTW, many of the CZ75 clones actually allow the safety to be engaged if the hammer is thumbed down. So if you want to thumb down the hammer and put the safety on, then a Tanfoglio or Turkish clone is a good alternative.
Exactly: never got the SA thing, and then you also LOSE the capability to use your DA in a second strike fashion which you lose in the SA model.
Great point about some clones which actually have a better safety that offers this feature. Some also do NOT have the dumb roll pin either.
sierra 223
09-12-22, 17:11
I have thought about SAO SIG 226. Looks interesting also.
sierra 223
09-12-22, 17:14
I had always heard that SAO CZ-75 had better triggers than the DA/SA. I guess that was wrong on my part, thanks for the clarification. That gives me more options.
I had always heard that SAO CZ-75 had better triggers than the DA/SA. I guess that was wrong on my part, thanks for the clarification. That gives me more options.
I have a P01 with a CGW hammer - the release is just as crisp and clean as a custom 1911. Of course it is DA/SA. No, the few SA's I've handled had gritty triggers. You likely CAN get a clean trigger with CGW help, but again I don't see what you gain - other than trigger shape and the safety shape.
I'll just add that my CZ75 SA isn't a bad gun. The trigger just doesn't have the feel of a nice 1911 out of the box. Plus, regardless of how good the trigger is, some pistols are just more accurate than others. I have a full size steel frame Witness (Tanfoglio) DA/SA 9mm that is way more accurate than my CZ75 SA. I don't know why, but the bullets are just far more likely to go where I'm aiming.
This SP-01 Shadow was custom built at the CZ custom shop. The trigger is equal to or better than my tuned 1911 triggers. A little on the heavy side (being all steel) but the recoil is not much more than a 22 magnum & shoots like a laser. Don't discount the SA option. There's good & bad for both SA & DA/SA.
I come from years of 1911 use (although I love my Berettas) so SA was intuitive for me. I just need to get it milled for an optic.
https://i.imgur.com/Q1CHuzv.jpg?1
joedirt199
09-15-22, 06:12
CZ Shadow line and S2 are the best canidates for a single action modification. They do not have the firing pin block safety so you get the shorter reset of the trigger to feel more like a 1911. I have 4 CZs, most being polymer models, P07, P09, SP01 Phantom but my SP01 Shadow is the smoothest. All have Cajun Gun Works or CZ Custom trigger/spring upgrades and polished parts. The first shot double action is so smooth you really don't even feel them.
CZ Shadow line and S2 are the best canidates for a single action modification. They do not have the firing pin block safety so you get the shorter reset of the trigger to feel more like a 1911. I have 4 CZs, most being polymer models, P07, P09, SP01 Phantom but my SP01 Shadow is the smoothest. All have Cajun Gun Works or CZ Custom trigger/spring upgrades and polished parts. The first shot double action is so smooth you really don't even feel them.
To my point - unless you NEED to have a flat trigger, there is no advantage to the SA CZ75, and you lose:
- double strike capability
- ability to carry in DA when needed and gain more versatility.
IF you have the 'right' CZ (they can be all over the map in terms of trigger performance OTB), the DA can be the best of any DA gun and easy to master the dreaded DA first shot. If not, go C/L.
joedirt199
09-15-22, 08:59
I modified my SP01 Shadow just see how it was. A poor man's 2011. It knocked me out of too many divisions to compete with it in SAO so back to DA/SA it went.
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