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Wow
09-15-22, 15:58
I got this new barrel. It is nitrided.

The start of the rifling (is there a word for that) looks uneven as if it was squished down. https://i.imgur.com/u3cQl3B.png


For reference this is my criterion. https://i.imgur.com/Ri9MlNG.png

markm
09-15-22, 16:03
That does not look good. The land/groove goes flat, and then there appears to be a high burr too.

Wow
09-15-22, 16:07
It does not "go flat" it it the start of the rifling you are seeing. Right by the chamber. But the burr does concern me.

markm
09-15-22, 16:45
Gotcha. Hard to tell with the scope view the orientation. Normally the only burrs you can live with are from the port reaming. And with the nitride, that burr might be tough to shoot smooth. Can you see that with the naked eye looking into the bore??

Wow
09-15-22, 16:57
Not really, no

markm
09-15-22, 17:00
Well I'd shoot it and see. If it's a disaster in accuracy, you have a solid pic to send the dealer/manufacturer.

Straight Shooter
09-15-22, 17:45
I got this new barrel. It is nitrided.

The start of the rifling (is there a word for that) looks uneven as if it was squished down. https://i.imgur.com/u3cQl3B.png


For reference this is my criterion. https://i.imgur.com/Ri9MlNG.png

Having dealt with Criterion before- youll have ZERO problems if you need to use their customer service. They are just excellent.

bfoosh006
09-15-22, 18:56
I misunderstood the pictures... Your attached image is Fubar'd , IMHO

That burr is pretty darned big.

I would e-mail pics to the manufacturer, and ask about it.


FWIW the rough leade linked pics, will gradually smooth out. What you are seeing is somewhat normal in your linked Criterion image.

Here is Molon's Criterion CORE CL after about 150rds. ( Provided I understood Molons post correctly )

68853

A Bartlein 308 barrel...

68854

grizzman
09-15-22, 19:10
I agree that there's something off with it. I wouldn't waste my ammo trying to smooth it out, cause it looked FUBAR to me.

I interpreted the OP as the barrel with the issue being from an unspecified manufacturer. He posted a photo of a good Criterion so show us what it's supposed to look like.

Wow
09-15-22, 20:38
Its not a criterion. It is this one: https://badattitudedept.com/kaiju-rifle-co-ar15-16-556-ouroboros-barrel/

Kaiju Rifle Co. AR15 Barrel - 16" 5.56 NATO Mid Gas - Ouroboros Line

Here is what they said:

"That area should look a lot different after a few rounds through it. I would encourage you to put it on paper to see its performance. If you aren’t satisfied, we’ll be happy to refund you or discount you based on performance."

Straight Shooter
09-16-22, 00:59
Its not a criterion. It is this one: https://badattitudedept.com/kaiju-rifle-co-ar15-16-556-ouroboros-barrel/

Kaiju Rifle Co. AR15 Barrel - 16" 5.56 NATO Mid Gas - Ouroboros Line

Here is what they said:

"That area should look a lot different after a few rounds through it. I would encourage you to put it on paper to see its performance. If you aren’t satisfied, we’ll be happy to refund you or discount you based on performance."

Oh, I see, my bad, I was wrong. I was truly baffled how Criterion would let one thru like that. GLAD to be wrong.

markm
09-16-22, 09:21
Its not a criterion. It is this one: https://badattitudedept.com/kaiju-rifle-co-ar15-16-556-ouroboros-barrel/

Kaiju Rifle Co. AR15 Barrel - 16" 5.56 NATO Mid Gas - Ouroboros Line

Here is what they said:

"That area should look a lot different after a few rounds through it. I would encourage you to put it on paper to see its performance. If you aren’t satisfied, we’ll be happy to refund you or discount you based on performance."

That sounds reasonable. I would shoot it for sure... I'd have to out of curiosity.

Stopsign32v
09-18-22, 07:54
Why do people buy these no name barrels? BA barrels are about as cheap as I would buy a barrel.

Molon
09-18-22, 15:27
That "smear" of metal in the leade of your barrel was most likely created when the chamber was cut and odds are it was due to a worn reamer. Cheap-ass barrel manufacturers often don't maintain their reamers nor discard them after the appropriate amount of usage.

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Wow
09-28-22, 11:33
I wont be buying that brand again. I replaced it with a criterion.

markm
09-28-22, 14:10
Dang. I wanted to see if it shoot good. :(

Wow
09-28-22, 14:18
Sorry. It wasnt worth putting together for me since I had no confidence in the part.

HKGuns
09-28-22, 14:47
Well, did they live up to their promise and give you a bad attitude?

Wow
09-28-22, 14:53
Well, did they live up to their promise and give you a bad attitude?

I was pretty pissed to have wasted $170 on it.

markm
09-28-22, 15:37
Sorry. It wasnt worth putting together for me since I had no confidence in the part.

I get it. I have a testing obsession and always have some experiment going each weekend with ammo/accuracy.

Wow
09-28-22, 16:07
I get it. I have a testing obsession and always have some experiment going each weekend with ammo/accuracy.

I was going to install it but then I saw the feed ramps had a roll on them. I don't expect them to be mirror polished but at the very least be smooth.

https://i.imgur.com/TVu2BcR.png

Wow
09-28-22, 16:20
Criterion makes awesome CL barrel. Who makes equally awesome nitrided barrels?

tomme boy
10-03-22, 01:12
Why do people buy these no name barrels? BA barrels are about as cheap as I would buy a barrel.

Looks better than BA!

HKGuns
10-03-22, 06:56
Looks better than BA!

I have several BA barrels that look nothing like that one and are good shooters.

I don’t think anyone should judge any company based on a sample of one.

constructor
10-03-22, 10:09
I have several BA barrels that look nothing like that one and are good shooters.

I don’t think anyone should judge any company based on a sample of one.

Especially since all of the barrel extensions are made by some other company and just installed by the barrel producer.

Do like every other "builder" and blend the feed ramps to the receiver with a dremel and a 3/16" chainsaw sharpening stone.