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Stopsign32v
09-16-22, 18:53
So you buy a lower receiver from online and they ship it to your FFL.

You get it home and it has a defect so they give you a return label but ask you to include your DL copy.

Then they exchange it for a new receiver but mail the new receiver to your home address but it isn't the same serial number as the original one you sent back. (Shouldn't this also have to go through FFL?)

HKGuns
09-16-22, 19:05
Yes it is legal. The transfer was already done and it was in your possession.

No different than shipping a pistol to be blued. Comes right back to you.

Let’s not invent new ways for the communists to infringe.

DoubleW
09-16-22, 19:07
Yes. It counts as a “repair”. I have had that exact thing happen twice. Once by Glock with a defective G21SF frame replaced with a standard G21 frame and once by S&W with a defective J Frame. It’s probably not done all that often, but I have personally had it done for me twice by the above and obviously reputable manufacturers.

AndyLate
09-16-22, 19:09
Its hard to say without more information. Pop the receiver into a USPS priority mailer and send it to me so I can investigate.
L.G. Brandon
1600 Pennsylvania Ave SE
Washington, DC 20003

Seriously, its legal. Manufacture cannot duplicate serial number on a new receiver. You can trust that big brother knows about the substitution.

Stopsign32v
09-16-22, 19:17
DAMN

Thought I had a ghost gun :cray:

ggammell
09-16-22, 19:24
Its hard to say without more information. Pop the receiver into a USPS priority mailer and send it to me so I can investigate.
L.G. Brandon
1600 Pennsylvania Ave SE
Washington, DC 20003

Seriously, its legal. Manufacture cannot duplicate serial number on a new receiver. You can trust that big brother knows about the substitution.

At least get the address right….

titsonritz
09-16-22, 20:02
I know a few people have had this same thing happen to them, it is legit. Sorry, you'll have to dig deeper for you ghost gun.

crosseyedshooter
09-16-22, 21:42
I think it depends on the state laws. A state with registration *cough* (CA) *cough* would require going through FFL if the SN of the firearm changes.

settingsuns
09-23-22, 09:42
It's legal, happened to a buddy of mine.

henri
09-23-22, 10:45
[QUOTE=HKGuns;3061185
Let’s not invent new ways for the communists to infringe.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. This is the problem with most gun owners always asking "mother may I? " The whole arm brace nonsense began with a bunch of twits questioning the atf about them.

markm
09-23-22, 11:22
So you buy a lower receiver from online and they ship it to your FFL.

You get it home and it has a defect

Was this a PSA black friday door buster lower? (It could be a clue to the question in my sig line)

kerplode
09-23-22, 11:53
We should all write letters to the ATF and ask. Then we can come back here, post our letters, and compare responses...

lol! Just kidding. Don't do that.

Yes, it's legal. They "repaired" your defective receiver by destroying it and sending you a new one. They did the proper documentation with the Feds on their end, so you're still on all the lists. Don't worry. Be happy.

ryr8828
09-23-22, 11:59
I bought a rather expensive rifle years back, close to 3 grand. Was supposed to be delivered to my dealer.

Came to my house. Someone in shipping made a mistake. I took it to my dealer and filled out paperwork on it because I didn't want anyone to get in trouble.

But I've often wondered, what if I hadn't?

kerplode
09-23-22, 12:03
I bought a rather expensive rifle years back, close to 3 grand. Was supposed to be delivered to my dealer.

Came to my house. Someone in shipping made a mistake. I took it to my dealer and filled out paperwork on it because I didn't want anyone to get in trouble.

But I've often wondered, what if I hadn't?

Likely nothing, unless you or someone you sold it to down the line used it in a crime. In that case, the ATF-NTC would figure out that it shipped to you as the last link in the chain.

Actually, that'll still happen...Keep good records, I guess.

georgeib
09-23-22, 12:04
I bought a rather expensive rifle years back, close to 3 grand. Was supposed to be delivered to my dealer.

Came to my house. Someone in shipping made a mistake. I took it to my dealer and filled out paperwork on it because I didn't want anyone to get in trouble.

But I've often wondered, what if I hadn't?

I imagine they would have discovered their mistake eventually, and you would likely have been contacted and either asked to rectify the error. Worst case, it would have been reported to or discovered by the ATF and you could have been charged with something along the lines of breaking the law that requires new firearm purchases to go through an FFL. You did the smart thing.

Sikiguya
09-23-22, 13:46
All legal. Just had it happen with Zev.


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robbins290
09-23-22, 14:53
I bought a rather expensive rifle years back, close to 3 grand. Was supposed to be delivered to my dealer.

Came to my house. Someone in shipping made a mistake. I took it to my dealer and filled out paperwork on it because I didn't want anyone to get in trouble.

But I've often wondered, what if I hadn't?

Nothing, I had one handed to me from fedex.