View Full Version : Knight's or P&S M5 RAS availability?
Looking for either maker. Want to complete an M16A4 clone. Looked all over the interwebz and can't find one in stock. Anyone have an idea where to find one? Thanks.
You’re pretty much gonna have to get one off of gunbroker or the EE here or other forums. With the clone market, Covid, supply chain etc. there are none to be had anywhere. They haven’t been in stock online for over a year now.
Now that the GWOT is over, those M4 and 5 rails got really pricey. lol
Here's a pic of mine just to make you feel bad. :cool:
https://i.imgur.com/MKrIBce.jpg
markm
You suck, just for the record!
:cool:
Shoot... it's getting hard to get the M4 RAS at a decent price anymore. P&S should do a run of both models. Although I'm sure it's not that simple.
Diamondback
11-17-22, 09:17
This makes me think I need to tighten up security on the M5 I have from a fallen friend for recreating his M16A4...
With the M16 rifle no longer being produced for the US military, I wonder if the M5 RAS is even being produced at all (maybe for export customers?). P&S Products became Molding Solutions and is now called Prudent American Technologies, as far as I can tell:
https://prudentamerican.com/defense-military/
With the M16 rifle no longer being produced for the US military, I wonder if the M5 RAS is even being produced at all (maybe for export customers?). P&S Products became Molding Solutions and is now called Prudent American Technologies, as far as I can tell:
https://prudentamerican.com/defense-military/
Interesting, I had no idea.
Well at least we have Mlok! :sarcastic:
robbins290
11-17-22, 11:35
As stated on the other thread, this is one of the many reasons why i am getting the FN. and AT $1549.00, its Alot cheaper then building right now.
Or least until Knights or P&S does a run of them. Going to hold out until the end of the year, if I did not find one yet, just going to order the FN
For anyone wanting to roll the dice with Anderson, this is listed on their website as US-made. Just a wild guess, but this may be from Prudent American Technologies (previously known as P&S Products).
https://andersonmanufacturing.com/11-5-drop-in-quad-rail-handguard-assembly-carbineg2-k066-q001.html
Managed to find one. Paid $400 and it was in like-new condition with the accessory pack. Yeah, rather pricey but you just can't find 'em these days.
Managed to find one. Paid $400 and it was in like-new condition with the accessory pack. Yeah, rather pricey but you just can't find 'em these days.
That's good. Crap. I'm trying to scare up an Aimpoint Comp M3 or C3, and there aren't even chinese knocks off on Ebay. (not that I'd buy one, and that's the last place I'd hope to have to look)
If I do find one, I'm at the mercy of the Seller because there is NO market for some reason.
Damn. There's no comparable alternative 12.0 rail to the RAS 5 that I can think of. I looked an Centurion and their only 12.0 is Mlok. Yuck!
Diamondback
12-02-22, 11:01
Managed to find one. Paid $400 and it was in like-new condition with the accessory pack. Yeah, rather pricey but you just can't find 'em these days.
If you don't mind, would you please post a complete inventory of the accessory kit when you get it? I'm trying to build up full "factory fresh" fruit-rolls for both M16A4 and M4 to go with the rifles, and exact composition lists are hard to find.
If you don't mind, would you please post a complete inventory of the accessory kit when you get it? I'm trying to build up full "factory fresh" fruit-rolls for both M16A4 and M4 to go with the rifles, and exact composition lists are hard to find.
The seller said he stuffed an extra panel or two into it, but this is what I got (may not exactly match factory issue):
11 rib = 3
9 rib = 3
6 rib = 2
5 rib = 2
4 rib = 1
3 rib = 1
Plus Knight's VFG
:cool:
Shoot... it's getting hard to get the M4 RAS at a decent price anymore. P&S should do a run of both models. Although I'm sure it's not that simple.
Agree with that; it is next to impossible to find either. I am trying to get another M-4 RAS in either KAC or P&S, but the prices are sky high and gone within minutes. A few years ago they were practically giving them away, just like the old Colt Carbine sticks with “N” prefix.
I suppose if the Taliban ever need a little spending money, they can put some of their thousands of rails on EBay.
I suppose if the Taliban ever need a little spending money, they can put some of their thousands of rails on EBay.
True dat. LMAO!:laugh:
There's no comparable alternative 12.0 rail to the RAS 5 that I can think of. I looked an Centurion and their only 12.0 is Mlok. Yuck!
What about the Centurion Arms C4 1913 rail? I have them on 16 and 20" guns. Below is a 20"....
https://64.media.tumblr.com/7c07bd227b1f196e083e5077bae886e2/a8ba6414b4343368-75/s1280x1920/77a8be68c2eed6725e81301b9fe1ff44fdbe6e88.jpg
https://64.media.tumblr.com/23d47023acc34c794c1787323e576ad1/fa04fa13fda1ae89-c4/s1280x1920/10faffbe99efe8a2a2865d995a7af730001b3ed2.jpg
https://64.media.tumblr.com/aeb95edd8e92b7eebfc956b21dcd6bc6/d961f3611e4d86ef-0b/s1280x1920/928e2732d67af4558d84e3227dd5abf2dc8323fd.jpg
https://64.media.tumblr.com/8a139f9158e6c517f2a5d6b481b36ac5/95f7f73d24f44fe4-79/s1280x1920/9acf3a01530a9e31d9b27d2289b72a1906680bde.jpg
What about the Centurion Arms C4 1913 rail? I have them on 16 and 20" guns. Below is a 20"....
I suppose that would work in a pinch for a clone. I was lucky I guess and found the real-deal but I could see what you posted as a somewhat reluctant alternative. Looks-wise it would pass muster at a cursory glance, especially with rail panels on it.
I have a 20" barrel fetish, so to speak (for guns only!). I like M4geries but the only other 20" I have has a 20", chrome lined, 1:7, A1 profile barrel. *Supposedly* a contract overrun from a batch Colt did for the Israeli military.....who knows (got it from McKay Enterprises several years ago). It has a PRI round carbon-fiber FF handguard, A1 stock and PG, flattop upper, a Matech BUIS and an Aimpoint Pro. Feels very good in the hand.
I actually checked Centurion's sight before making my post. And the only 12" is Mlok now... unless I missed it. I do have a Centurion rail that I like a lot.
I actually checked Centurion's sight before making my post. And the only 12" is Mlok now... unless I missed it. I do have a Centurion rail that I like a lot.
This?
https://centurionarms.com/c4-rail-7in-12in/
I suppose that would work in a pinch for a clone. I was lucky I guess and found the real-deal but I could see what you posted as a somewhat reluctant alternative. Looks-wise it would pass muster at a cursory glance, especially with rail panels on it.
Do Centurion rails have the little notches for the KAC type panels to lock in to?
OutofBatt3ry
12-04-22, 18:34
I had a hard time finding a Carbine RAS over a year ago. I'm sure it's harder now. I eventually found a DD EZCAR, well used and still with the sand and dust from whoever used it last, for an M4gery, it was close enough, and the price was right.
Do Centurion rails have the little notches for the KAC type panels to lock in to?
Not sure, was just commenting that aesthetically it looks close to the M5 RAS. Add rail panels and it will look even more similar.
Had an issue with the KAC rail covers not entirely locking into place, even with screwdriver prying. Most did but the stubborn one I just cut a single section of a "rail ladder" and tapped it gently into place in the slot in front of the KAC handguard piece. Seems to work pretty good. No movement.
Not sure, was just commenting that aesthetically it looks close to the M5 RAS. Add rail panels and it will look even more similar.
Had an issue with the KAC rail covers not entirely locking into place, even with screwdriver prying. Most did but the stubborn one I just cut a single section of a "rail ladder" and tapped it gently into place in the slot in front of the KAC handguard piece. Seems to work pretty good. No movement.
Just zoomed in on Stickmans pic with readers on and saw that is the panel he has so gonna go with more than likely now that I can see. :p
MA2_Navy_Veteran
12-04-22, 23:15
Just feeding the hate... Be jelly, very jelly, lol.
It's an old pic, but ironically, I still need 1 more M5 Ras for A4 clone #12 (9-12 not shown below)
https://www.m4carbine.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=55132&d=1545597938
That's good. Crap. I'm trying to scare up an Aimpoint Comp M3 or C3, and there aren't even chinese knocks off on Ebay. (not that I'd buy one, and that's the last place I'd hope to have to look)
If I do find one, I'm at the mercy of the Seller because there is NO market for some reason.
Damn. There's no comparable alternative 12.0 rail to the RAS 5 that I can think of. I looked an Centurion and their only 12.0 is Mlok. Yuck!
My LMT 14.5 "M4gery" has a Troy DI quad rail and AP PRO because I couldn't see paying cloning prices. Rail panels and VFG were easy to find at surplus stores.
Andy
This?
https://centurionarms.com/c4-rail-7in-12in/
Yep. I didn't see that you can pick the length within the specific model.
TAC has NIB Surplus P&S M5 RAS sets with rib panels and vert grip for $219 shipped. Midway also had KAC M5’s in stock as of yesterday.
https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/product/519/
TAC has NIB Surplus P&S M5 RAS sets with rib panels and vert grip for $219 shipped. Midway also had KAC M5’s in stock as of yesterday for $328.25.
https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/product/519/
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022869750?pid=315908
FIFY
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1022869750?pid=315908
I never stated a price on the M5 from Midway. I couldn’t remember so I didn’t state one. I only said it was in stock as of yesterday.
TAC has NIB Surplus P&S M5 RAS sets with rib panels and vert grip for $219 shipped. Midway also had KAC M5’s in stock as of yesterday.
https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/product/519/
They are now out of stock.
Dan
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I grabbed a set. I knew they’d be gone quick…especially at that price.
TAC has NIB Surplus P&S M5 RAS sets with rib panels and vert grip for $219 shipped. Midway also had KAC M5’s in stock as of yesterday.
https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/product/519/
They are both out of stock.
I gave in and paid out the ass for one around Thanksgiving from a private seller, but the guy did me right. Ya just can't find 'em anywhere, and I recall when they were very available and not expensive a few years ago. Oh well....
I got my P&S M5 RAS in from TAC and it is excellent. It was NIB, and I have to say, the finish and machining was better than on my KAC example. It also came with full rail panels and the vert grip.
Just got a notice that the P&S is back in stock as well for a good deal less.
MA2_Navy_Veteran
12-30-22, 17:49
I got my P&S M5 RAS in from TAC and it is excellent. It was NIB, and I have to say, the finish and machining was better than on my KAC example. It also came with full rail panels and the vert grip.
It looks like a standard M5 mil-pack, but going by the picture on TAC's site, it seems to be missing a 4-Rib Handguard Panel & a 4th, 11-Rib Handguard Panel?
Every standard KAC M5 Mil-pack I've ever seen has contained:
1 - M5 RAS Upper Assy
1 - M5 RAS Lower Assy
1 - Forward Pistol Grip
4 - 11-Rib Handguard Panel
2 - 9-Rib Handguard Panel
1 - 6-Rib Handguard Panel
2 - 5-Rib Handguard Panel
1 - 4=Rib Handguard Panel
1 - Rail Panel Carrying Case
1 - Barrel Stop f/M203 Mount
Maybe P&S changed the contents of their M5 kits?
Guess I'll soon find out since I just purchased one of these M5 kits myself. Either way, I'm not really bothered by it as it's still a fantastic price for what all it does contain, and I'm fairly confident that the missing P&S panels can still be found somewhere out there. At least with this purchase, I'll finally be able to complete that 12th M16A4 clone.
Also, not sure if this issue has since been corrected, but something to keep in mind about the P&S Barrel Stop f/M203 mount is that many times, you will likely have to use a jeweler's file to slightly file down the outer corner edges of the piece in order for it to fit, as they are usually ever so slightly too large to fully seat flush inside most triangular end caps.
MA2
I believe TAC had gotten a lot. I’ve been watching the stock numbers. It seems when they get to the bottom the add 25 to 30 for stock. The price is now $245 with free shipping.
MA2_Navy_Veteran
01-02-23, 14:37
So I received the one I ordered from TAC, and these are indeed the P&S M5 Mil-Packs, however, there are a couple things to note about them...
1 - The boxes they are shipped in are the originals and are in pretty terrible shape. It's so old the cardboard itself is starting to seperate. The one I received was basically collapsed/crushed onto the rail assembly. Thankfully though, the rail set is also wrapped in a thin covering of micro-bubble-wrap, so no apparent harm came to the rail set inside.
2 - The military label on a corner of the box dates these sets to December of 2013 so that's as close of a date as you will find to the manufactering date of these rails as the P&S sets don't have the dates etched onto the rail itself like the KAC versions do.
3 - Also unlike the KAC kits, these P&S M5 kits do not contain any installation instructions, or any paperwork at all.
4 - As well - they also do not contain the 4th, 11-Rib cover panel, or the single 4-Rib panel that the KAC kits do... or did.
Still, it's a hell of a deal for what all it does contain, and if you're looking to build up an M16A4 clone, I highly reccommend that you snatch one of these up while you still can, because these certainly won't last long the the current price (@ $245 shipped).
A few pics...
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MA2
So I received the one I ordered from TAC, and these are indeed the P&S M5 Mil-Packs, however, there are a couple things to note about them...
1 - The boxes they are shipped in are the originals and are in pretty terrible shape. It's so old the cardboard itself is starting to seperate. The one I received was basically collapsed/crushed onto the rail assembly. Thankfully though, the rail set is also wrapped in a thin covering of micro-bubble-wrap, so no apparent harm came to the rail set inside.
2 - The military label on a corner of the box dates these sets to December of 2013 so that's as close of a date as you will find to the manufactering date of these rails as the P&S sets don't have the dates etched onto the rail itself like the KAC versions do.
3 - Also unlike the KAC kits, these P&S M5 kits do not contain any installation instructions, or any paperwork at all.
4 - As well - they also do not contain the 4th, 11-Rib cover panel, or the single 4-Rib panel that the KAC kits do... or did.
Still, it's a hell of a deal for what all it does contain, and if you're looking to build up an M16A4 clone, I highly reccommend that you snatch one of these up while you still can, because these certainly won't last long the the current price (@ $245 shipped).
A few pics...
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MA2I also ordered one from TAC ($219.95 12/22/2022), got it last week. The cardboard box that mine came in was perfectly fine, despite being shipped in a bubble mailer envelope. same "M-12/13" date code. So I guess it varies on what you'll get.
MA2_Navy_Veteran
01-02-23, 15:47
Probably dating myself a bit here, but so what - You used to be able to find the KAC M5 Mil-Packs for $150 shipped any day, for years... Now, GunBroken has just the rails w 3 panels for a $500 bid.
It's to the point that $245 shipped for a complete Mil-Pack is not just the new normal, but rather a smokin hot deal... for a new old stock RAS kit that is a decade old.
Such a stupid world it's fast becoming...
MA2
Probably dating myself a bit here, but so what - You used to be able to find the KAC M5 Mil-Packs for $150 shipped any day, for years... Now, GunBroken has just the rails w 3 panels for a $500 bid.
It's to the point that $245 shipped for a complete Mil-Pack is not just the new normal, but rather a smokin hot deal... for a new old stock RAS kit that is a decade old.
Such a stupid world it's fast becoming...
MA2agreed 100%.
even the M4 KAC RAS market is just as stupid. Used to be $125 on the "equipment exchanges" all day long. not any more. Operation Parts had them new for $295 a couple days ago, they sold out in 2 days.
ETA: I wonder if this is a lingering after-effect of the pandemic shortage. We've gotten so used to stuff being out-of-stock, that when it becomes available, we buy-buy-buy, even if we don't have an immediate need for it. Maybe also effects of inflation, since cash is losing value, turn that cash into known hard goods that hold their value. just a thought.
MA2_Navy_Veteran
01-03-23, 12:01
Though not any kind of a deal-breaker, one other thing that the KAC kits contain(ed) that these P&S ones don't is the plastic roll-up sleave for holding all the cover panels & grip/ect.
For reference as compared to the P&S kit photos I posted above, this is what the KAC kits contain(ed)...
https://www.m4carbine.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=69498&d=1672767276
Also for reference, here are the KAC instructions for mounting the M5 RAS Assembly (in picture form)...
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MA2
Probably dating myself a bit here, but so what - You used to be able to find the KAC M5 Mil-Packs for $150 shipped any day, for years... Now, GunBroken has just the rails w 3 panels for a $500 bid.
It's to the point that $245 shipped for a complete Mil-Pack is not just the new normal, but rather a smokin hot deal... for a new old stock RAS kit that is a decade old.
Such a stupid world it's fast becoming...
MA2
Makes me want to pull off rails and sell them to dullards. I could replace an M5 with a $119 BCM Blem and make a few bucks. I'm just too lazy to deal with shipping and taking guns apart.
MA2_Navy_Veteran
01-10-23, 04:46
And... They're gone. I apparently bought the last one TAC was offering for sale. It appears that they are now mounting what stock they have left onto the Colt AR15A4s that they have in their inventory & selling them as A4 clones... (for $190 mark-up over the standard AR15A4 model)
https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/product/877/
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MA2_Navy_Veteran
01-11-23, 11:33
Brownell's has the KAC M5 RAS (the Rails & 3 panels) in stock again (for $311.83) if anybody still needs one for their build...
https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/rifle-parts/rifle-handguards-parts/ar-15-m5-rifle-ras-handguard/
wetidlerjr
01-12-23, 12:27
Brownell's has the KAC M5 RAS (the Rails & 3 panels) in stock again (for $311.83) if anybody still needs one for their build...
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/forend-amp-handguard-parts/handguards-amp-rails/m5-rifle-ras-handguard-sku100023370-98030-192962.aspx?trk_msg=DKAA5LMCFJ14B5IFEQAR4015DS&trk_contact=V3TM4IK7NHUNQ50FJDNBES50KS&trk_sid=V12CIJT7SHMJ48F380JSERNVIK&trk_link=3NTQLKGV9P3KNA8P78EPO95MU4&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=View+product+recommended+for+you&utm_campaign=Reloading&utm_content=2023_01_11_WinPrimers
OOS :cool:
I don't know how often KAC does production runs of these, but judging from how quickly they sell, they could probably double or triple production and still sell every one in short order. Especially if they came in the .mil packaging with all accessories.
I don't know how often KAC does production runs of these, but judging from how quickly they sell, they could probably double or triple production and still sell every one in short order. Especially if they came in the .mil packaging with all accessories.
Another run of M4 RAS couldn't hurt either. Went to check on the B&T quad rail as an alternative yesterday, and they're out of stock too.
I don't know how often KAC does production runs of these, but judging from how quickly they sell, they could probably double or triple production and still sell every one in short order. Especially if they came in the .mil packaging with all accessories.
my guess, KAC RAS (or P&S) production runs are probably driven by govt contract, probably with quantities in multiples of ten-thousands of units, or more. I think the civilian cloner niche market is probably a drop-in-the-bucket, in comparison. When it shows up in the commercial market as new, it's probably production over-runs, or perhaps they ran off a few more for the cloners? Mighty nice of them to do that, if so. Might be that the TAC M5 RAS were govt surplus spare parts inventory, finally sold off out of govt warehouses, DRMO, judging from the packaging and pricing. JMHO.
Is there an alternative to these? Not taking clone correct, but to add a FF rail to a rifle with a FSP.
Although I overpaid at the $400+ mark I am glad I got it when I did. Yeah, there have been considerably lower prices recently as the last page or two show, but if you aren't quick on the draw (like checking posts/requests) then they sell out fast and you're SOL. Of course the reason stock is low is no doubt because of the fact that the major .mil contracts have dried up or changed. The "Full Monty" 20" barrel isn't as popular as the "newer" (as in the last 20 years) 14.5/16" barrel so the focus is directed there.
We're dinosaurs bro's with our "musket" affinity......can I be a T-Rex?
MA2_Navy_Veteran
01-17-23, 08:21
Some KAC M5 rails at DSA... (@$311.)
https://www.dsarms.com/p-16848-knights-armament-ar15-rifle-length-ras-handguard-system.aspx
Some KAC M5 rails at DSA... (@$311.)
https://www.dsarms.com/p-16848-knights-armament-ar15-rifle-length-ras-handguard-system.aspx
Damn it, every time I see these kind of prices I could kick myself for not having a little more patience!
MA2_Navy_Veteran
01-17-23, 19:24
Damn it, every time I see these kind of prices I could kick myself for not having a little more patience!
Look on the bright side - You have one, & it came with accessories. I don't think the DSA offering has anything other than the the two rail halves themselves.
MA2
Mismatched P&S/KAC M4 RAS and P&S M5 RAS respectively. $240. I have never used this vendor but they have an Instagram and some reddit people say they're legit. Address is suspect (PO Box). I was able to add both to my cart.
https://wetworxoutfitters.com/knights-armament-company-titusville-m4-ras-quad-rail/
https://wetworxoutfitters.com/p-s-products-m5-ras-quad-rail-forend-assembly/
Mismatched P&S/KAC M4 RAS and P&S M5 RAS respectively. $240. I have never used this vendor but they have an Instagram and some reddit people say they're legit. Address is suspect (PO Box). I was able to add both to my cart.
https://wetworxoutfitters.com/knights-armament-company-titusville-m4-ras-quad-rail/
https://wetworxoutfitters.com/p-s-products-m5-ras-quad-rail-forend-assembly/
They have a large ebay presence, I've bought a bunch from them there, including some stuff that just arrived yesterday. They have what they state, the conditions are what they state (if not nicer when it arrives), the prices are typically market or a tad below. They are legit.
I'd grab a mis matched beater because I use my rails, but not at $240.
I sure hope the Quad Rail shortage doesn't continue to worsen. WHY did I not buy the B&T at $125???
I'd grab a mis matched beater because I use my rails, but not at $240.
I sure hope the Quad Rail shortage doesn't continue to worsen. WHY did I not buy the B&T at $125???
Because people on this forum discouraged it…despite them having ZERO experience with it. When in reality, it’s actually superior to the KAC rail at 1/3 the price.
Because people on this forum discouraged it…despite them having ZERO experience with it. When in reality, it’s actually superior to the KAC rail at 1/3 the price.
A little bit... the OP in that thread was unclear though. Had it been clear that the B&T only lacked the clip slots, I'd have grabbed one.
I wasn't as hot on the quad rail trail as I am now though. Didn't realize how completely retarded the industry had become.
Mismatched P&S/KAC M4 RAS and P&S M5 RAS respectively. $240. I have never used this vendor but they have an Instagram and some reddit people say they're legit. Address is suspect (PO Box). I was able to add both to my cart.
https://wetworxoutfitters.com/knights-armament-company-titusville-m4-ras-quad-rail/
https://wetworxoutfitters.com/p-s-products-m5-ras-quad-rail-forend-assembly/
thanks for the heads-up.
I ordered a set of the P&S M5 RAS on Wednesday, first time I've ordered with Wet Worx Outfitters, it's already enroute Thursday, USPS in possession of it, in transit.
https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/product/357/
Salty M4 RAS $196 shipped/insured for me
https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/product/357/
Salty M4 RAS $196 shipped/insured for me
Surplus/Issued USED KAC M4 RAS. Will show wear, dings, dirt, paint, etc. NOTE: Some units maybe missing screw/screw retainer.
**NO CHERRY PICKING**
-AS IS NO REFUNDS-
What sets the M4 RAS apart from other 2-piece quad rails on the market is that it securely locks to the rifle’s barrel nut via a clamp and screw arrangement, making it a very solid foundation upon which to mount tactical accessories.
Actually, it looks like a lot of them are missing the screws, and if they are also missing the retainer, THEY SHOULD NOT BE THE SAME PRICE!!!
To list that it is secure, because of the hardware, and then not include the hardware, all while you are selling them for 2 hundo a set?!?!?!?!!?
I like TBA, but I can say that I am not impressed with this move. A more honest way to sell them would have been to list them with, and a separate listing for those without hardware.
Selling them both at the same price and knowing plenty of people won't notice the part about missing hardware, that is the sort of move that gets people thinking you run a shady shop. Those guys are above that, or at least I thought they were.
Yeah it's pretty lame they do that but honestly, I couldn't hold back. I am not sure I'll ever be able to get one. I have a few at my department and I'm sure we have some spare bits and pieces laying around.
Hoping that I get lucky but if anyone here buys one as their first/holy grail type purchase PM me. I will try my best to find some spare parts and ship them to you.
ETA: KAC sells hardware kit direct for $33.25 as does operations parts for same price
I got an email about this and was pretty upset with TBA. MSRP is still 250 on these? I know you can’t buy new ones, but seriously, they look well past normal wear and tear. And they aren’t all complete. What a rip
Operation Parts has the KAC RAS clamp screw, screw retainer clip, about $4 a piece. but of course, they're out-of-stock at this time. I bought a few of the screw retainer clips a couple weeks ago, and also the gas tube leaf spring thingie, but just waiting for the screw to come back in stock, probably buy about 5-10 of them, just to have a life-time supply on-hand.
New P&S M4/M5 RAS in stock at TAC for $220 & $225! Get ‘Em while you can! I ordered another M5.
Actually, it looks like a lot of them are missing the screws, and if they are also missing the retainer, THEY SHOULD NOT BE THE SAME PRICE!!!
To list that it is secure, because of the hardware, and then not include the hardware, all while you are selling them for 2 hundo a set?!?!?!?!!?
I like TBA, but I can say that I am not impressed with this move. A more honest way to sell them would have been to list them with, and a separate listing for those without hardware.
Selling them both at the same price and knowing plenty of people won't notice the part about missing hardware, that is the sort of move that gets people thinking you run a shady shop. Those guys are above that, or at least I thought they were.
I've had good dealings with them in the past, but I'm glad i'm not hurting for an RAS right now. I believe they are capable of better.
Rifleman_04
02-26-23, 01:18
New P&S M4/M5 RAS in stock at TAC for $220 & $225! Get ‘Em while you can! I ordered another M5.
What is TAC? Link?
What is TAC? Link?
https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/
Rifleman_04
02-26-23, 06:56
https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/
Duh, I knew that. Thank you kindly.
For that price I should probably snag one.
MA2_Navy_Veteran
03-11-23, 10:34
They're back in stock...
https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/product/519/
https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/product/530/
MA2
seems now Brownells carries the P&S RAS versions, new.
https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/rifle-parts/rifle-handguards-parts/ar-15-rail-adapter-systems/?sku=430102571&avad=234121_f2f03bb15&aid=184213&cm_mmc=affiliate-_-Itwine-_-Avantlink-_-184213
https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/rifle-parts/rifle-handguards-parts/m4-adapter-rail-assembly/?avad=234121_d2f02150d&aid=184213&cm_mmc=affiliate-_-Itwine-_-Avantlink-_-184213
titsonritz
04-24-23, 15:47
They're back in stock...
https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/product/519/
https://www.thoroughbredarmco.com/product/530/
MA2
These are currently in stock.
I just pick up an M5 for a NOS Colt A4 upper I just bought, should be here Friday.
titsonritz
04-24-23, 15:48
Rule #2: Double tap.
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