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hotbiggun42
11-15-22, 20:59
Are they worth owning? Anymore all i ever shoot is my 556 short barreled AR15 and just wondering if i should buy a short AR10 or FAL. I know its not the most effective barrel length but i kind of want one.

Your opinion?
SomeOtherGuy
11-15-22, 21:02
Are you going to use a suppressor? I've shot a 14.5" .308 AR-10 and the concussion is absolutely brutal, even with good ear protection. But a suppressor could make all the difference.

Beyond that, don't see much point, but do what you wanna do.
utahjeepr
11-15-22, 21:07
Honestly I don't get the idea of going with a .308 SBR. But if it tickles your tender bits then go for it. I don't have to understand.

Probably should have put this Q in "Beyond 5.56" though.
hotbiggun42
11-15-22, 21:10
No suppresor in the near future. I know the concusion is real but i want something with a little more knockdown power.
hotbiggun42
11-15-22, 21:11
I figured it wasnt technical enough for the tech forum.
Diamondback
11-15-22, 21:15
I've toyed with the idea of a 12.5" pistol in .30-06 to exploit AP Ball M2's unique legal status... but I don't really expect to need to bust plates anytime soon, nor feel up for a weapon as punishing on its user as its target unless it's a truly dire emergency.
utahjeepr
11-15-22, 21:22
Just something for your consideration.

https://rifleshooter.com/2016/02/308-winchester-7-62x51mm-nato-short-barrel-length-and-velocity-a-six-inch-308-bolt-gun/
Todd.K
11-15-22, 21:29
Are you issued ammo?
Disciple
11-15-22, 21:35
No suppresor in the near future. I know the concusion is real but i want something with a little more knockdown power.

Why not a small frame cartridge suited to a short barrel, like .350 Legend or .458 SOCOM? Do you want more range?
czgunner
11-15-22, 21:38
6.8 SPC is ideal at 12.5".

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kirkland
11-16-22, 04:01
Personally, I don't even think a 16".308 is worth owning. The only reason I would own a .308 would be to carry a lot of energy down to long range, and I'm going to want as much velocity possible out of an already velocity challenged projectile. I would want at least a 20" barrel with .308. The rifle is already going to be bigger and heavier than a 5.56/short action type gun. Might as well play to it's strengths instead of it's weaknesses.
markm
11-16-22, 07:53
Personally, I don't even think a 16".308 is worth owning. The only reason I would own a .308 would be to carry a lot of energy down to long range, and I'm going to want as much velocity possible out of an already velocity challenged projectile. I would want at least a 20" barrel with .308. The rifle is already going to be bigger and heavier than a 5.56/short action type gun. Might as well play to it's strengths instead of it's weaknesses.

This is very true, and a short .308 (13.5-16") on paper is monumentally retarded.... I have a buddy who runs a 13.5" with great enjoyment. Shoots 155 TMKs I believe, and shoot that goofy shit to 1000 plus yards.
grizzman
11-16-22, 09:52
A short 308 can work, but it’s not a very efficient solution. I’d run a 6.8 SPC instead to eliminate some weight and burn less powder.
mack7.62
11-16-22, 11:45
Well they do make a 13" barrel for the SCAR and I believe they used 135 grain ammo but I would hate to shoot much without a suppressor.
Pappabear
11-16-22, 13:04
Well they do make a 13" barrel for the SCAR and I believe they used 135 grain ammo but I would hate to shoot much without a suppressor.

That is our buddy’s gun Mark spoke of, he loves the 155TMK’S. I shot the SOB and it’s shuffled my deck good. I did more of a close range rapid fire deal but it jumped and rocked my world.

PB.
The Dumb Gun Collector
11-16-22, 21:27
Unless it was something really interesting in itself like a G3k or a SCAR-H CB (c??) I would rather just get a short AK. They are all over the place and they don't scramble your DNA with every blast.
hotbiggun42
11-16-22, 22:27
Unless it was something really interesting in itself like a G3k or a SCAR-H CB (c??) I would rather just get a short AK. They are all over the place and they don't scramble your DNA with every blast.

Scramble your DNA, thats funny. 7.62x39 is a good option.
SomeOtherGuy
11-17-22, 10:52
Unless it was something really interesting in itself like a G3k or a SCAR-H CB (c??) I would rather just get a short AK. They are all over the place and they don't scramble your DNA with every blast.


Scramble your DNA, thats funny. 7.62x39 is a good option.

Awesome, going to put Pfizer and Moderna stickers on my shorter .308s now.

I know I posted it above, but the 14.5" .308 AR I shot was a head-clearing experience. It did have a muzzle brake FWIW. Way louder, for the trigger-puller, than the 50 BMG rifles I've shot (also with brakes, of course), or just about anything else. Heavy magnum revolvers might compare. I've been around braked 16" AR-15s for thousands upon thousands of shots, both as a shooter and an RO, and they are in a different, lower league blast-wise.