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Pappabear
01-20-23, 16:54
I tested a bunch of my handguns and my sons...triggers by weight. I wanted to test now and see if years later they lightened up. And just for curiosity. I also noticed that if I pulled the Lymans trigger tester slowly it showed a pound or two minimum more heavy. Vs driving straight through and I would have thought the opposite.

Handgun Trigger pulls by weight

HK P30 L Langdon Tactical 7.66/3.9 Lbs

HK P30 light LEM 5.4lbs

HK P30SK Light LEM 3.1 LBS

HK VP9 L with HK parts upgrade trigger 3.10 Lbs

HK VP9 (stock) 4.0 Lbs

HK45 ( bought used , work done ) 8.2/3.0 Lbs

Sig Legion X5 3.15 Lbs

Sig Spectre 3.16 Lbs

Sig Legion P226 SAO 3.5 Lbs

Sig P22 Legion DA/SA 8.6/4.3 Lbs

Beretta 92, M9 ( a little work done at Wilson) 8.4/3.0 Lbs

Beretta 92, M9A4 6.5/3.2 Lbs (surprised me)

Stacatto P DUO 3.14Lbs

I didn't do any Revos or 1911's.

mpom
01-20-23, 19:02
And here i thought I was an outlier, with 3 polymer hand guns running crisp trigger pulls of 3.5 lbs.
Nice selection by the way!

Mark

HKGuns
01-20-23, 20:20
I should do the same, we'd have quite a bit of overlap to compare.

- I think the only L-LEM upgrade I did was on my P30, but can't remember off the top of my head.
- I also can't remember exactly how many SRT's I have installed in my Sig's, so it would be a re-learning exercise.
- I too, did a Wilson trigger job on my 92 Inox, so there is a ton of overlap between us.

You have excellent taste.

I just finished fully tearing apart the slides of my Sig's and giving them the ultrasonic cleaning treatment then a bath in kerosene.

My '85 W. German P220 came out Super clean, had some cosmoline looking stuff all over the FP and caked in the channel.

https://hkguns.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1412957310-5.jpg

Pappabear
01-20-23, 20:29
And here i thought I was an outlier, with 3 polymer hand guns running crisp trigger pulls of 3.5 lbs.
Nice selection by the way!

Mark

Thanks man. I like a wide variety of guns.

P

Pappabear
01-20-23, 20:31
I should do the same, we'd have quite a bit of overlap to compare.

- I think the only L-LEM upgrade I did was on my P30, but can't remember off the top of my head.
- I also can't remember exactly how many SRT's I have installed in my Sig's, so it would be a re-learning exercise.
- I too, did a Wilson trigger job on my 92 Inox, so there is a ton of overlap between us.

You have excellent taste.

I just finished fully tearing apart the slides of my Sig's and giving them the ultrasonic cleaning treatment then a bath in kerosene.

My '85 W. German P220 came out Super clean, had some cosmoline looking stuff all over the FP and caked in the channel.

https://hkguns.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1412957310-5.jpg

That’s an old school blaster. Nice.

PB

DG23
01-20-23, 21:50
I tested a bunch of my handguns and my sons...triggers by weight. I wanted to test now and see if years later they lightened up.

SNIP...

Beretta 92, M9 ( a little work done at Wilson) 8.4/3.0 Lbs

Beretta 92, M9A4 6.5/3.2 Lbs (surprised me)



Love those triggers. :)

gaijin
01-21-23, 05:52
Which do you shoot best PB (“pretty is as pretty does”)??
“Best” defined as; “most accurately, rapidly”.

Nearly all of mine are substantially below minimum pull weight recommendation for Carry guns, but I’m used to them.

17K
01-21-23, 08:26
I would check how far back the hammer travels on that M9A4.

A light double action pull can be the trigger bar not allowing the hammer to cam back far enough to get more tension on the mainspring. It’ll cause light strikes eventually.

Ron3
01-21-23, 09:53
Which do you shoot best PB (“pretty is as pretty does”)??
“Best” defined as; “most accurately, rapidly”.

Nearly all of mine are substantially below minimum pull weight recommendation for Carry guns, but I’m used to them.

Good question!

HKGuns
01-21-23, 10:42
Hope you don’t mind me adding some of my data to this PB. I took the average of at least 5 readings using my Lyman electronic trigger pull gauge. Mine are mostly 100% stock.

(I shoot them all well.)

I’ll edit this as I gather data.

SIG:

MK18: 7# 5.5 oz
P226 MK25: 10# 5.0 oz / 4# 9.1 oz
P220 Legion: 11# 2.5 oz / 5# 14.0 oz
P220 ‘85 W. Ger.: >12# / 4# 12.0 oz
P938: 7# 12.0 oz

Upon reflection the longer list looked too much like a partial inventory.

Less is more.

Pappabear
01-21-23, 20:42
I also wondered how good these gauges are as well. Especially since , if I pulled quickly, it gave me lighter pull weight and difference in lbs not oz. Thanks for adding HKGuns.

Gaijin, I shoot my Sig Legions X5, 226's and Stacatto the most so I shoot them the best. I like the weight these guns offer me to compete but I took my Sig 365XL and was shocked how well I shot it at a match one night. But the bigger heavier guns I would shoot best. And of course a RDS is very helpful.

I do just fine with my HK's and would trust my life 10X's over with them, but they have more felt recoil and when shooting fast and a lot, I can feel it.

I generally get rid of guns I suck shooting.

PB

DG23
01-23-23, 22:38
I also wondered how good these gauges are as well. Especially since , if I pulled quickly, it gave me lighter pull weight and difference in lbs not oz.

PB

My RCBS scale is not at all like that. Yes, depending on how you pull (direction of pull and where the scale arm is positioned on the trigger - not speed of pull like you mention) you can get a very few ounces difference but certainly not anywhere near a lb or lbs.

If I am consistent with where the scale arm is placed on the trigger pad I generally get very repeatable results without very big swings.

Absolutely love Beretta 92 triggers and how easy they are to tune! (talking about spring weights mostly)

Between the different trigger return spring weights and the butt load of hammer spring weight options those things are easy as pie to dial in to whatever a guy wants as far as the trigger pull weight is concerned. Brainless easy and fast if you have one with the dog bone pin (or have replaced the roll pin with one if yours came with that).

https://i.imgur.com/tNpyYKw.jpg

(may the bean counters that decided to put the roll pins in that place be damned to hell AND the fleas of a thousand camels infest their mothers arm pits for eternity. cheap ass bastards...)