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My brother is in town to shoot guns. He is left eye dominate and a right handed shooter. He tilts his head all cattywampus and does not shoot as well as he should.
Anyone had this and figured it out, because he is struggling with his eyes and RDS on handguns. With a rifle, no issue at all. Im so confused on helping him.
PB
My brother is in town to shoot guns. He is left eye dominate and a right handed shooter. He tilts his head all cattywampus and does not shoot as well as he should.
Anyone had this and figured it out, because he is struggling with his eyes and RDS on handguns. With a rifle, no issue at all. Im so confused on helping him.
PB
Pappabear,
I think it may just take him time doing this. Is that how he always shoots pistols?
Want to say I saw Lucus from T-Rex Arms shoots this way as well.
Only time I ever shot like that was at night. Was using NV with my rifle but when swapping to pistol I used my un-NV eye and white light. This was just during some training so might not be the best method... just the best I could come up with at the time.
Found the video where he talks about.
https://youtu.be/DV_WTsF_7kM
Thanks Vandal. Appreciate it.
PB
crosseyedshooter
02-03-23, 17:25
I'm cross-eye dominant but ended up shooting left-handed due to some nerve injuries in my right arm. Shooting pistols cross-eyed isn't too difficult with modern isosceles, just turn the head slightly so the dominant eye lines up with the sights. It may take some practice or training aids like scotch tape over eye-pro of the non-dominant eye to help the brain line up the hands and eye for the correct sight picture.
The difficulty comes with long gun shooting, where either your brother will have to shoot with one eye closed or switch shoulders to shoot both eyes open (a la shotgun trap/skeet).
I'm left eye dominant and shoot red dots just fine. My technique is i turn my head to the right slightly and i bring the gun slightly left.
Has he shot a red dot before?
A lot of people struggle at the beginning trying to steady the dot and end up pulling shots.
Tell him to accept the dot will wiggle around and focus on God grip and trigger press. That usually helps with my students.
My brother is in town to shoot guns. He is left eye dominate and a right handed shooter. He tilts his head all cattywampus and does not shoot as well as he should.
Anyone had this and figured it out, because he is struggling with his eyes and RDS on handguns. With a rifle, no issue at all. Im so confused on helping him.
PB
Just move the gun to the other eye with a slight turn of the head.
Trex arms has a decent video
Edit: eye see its been addressed already!
With the RDS he may not need to do anything other than practice with a normal grip, presenting a gun under his non-dominant eye. Bodkin starts saying something right on his video but doesn't finish with a correct conclusion. If your brother gets a correct poa/poi from under his nondominant eye in slow fire, all he needs to do is just practice that way. This is one small benefit of rds that people don't know much about.
Sidneyious
02-04-23, 11:53
Same, I just turn my head a little, Hated going left handed. Just adjusted my gear a bit to work around it, I do shoot long guns left handed though.
Strange that feels more natural to me.
Pistol, rifle reloads behind it, space for ifak, dump pouch and pistol reloads.
https://pasteboard.co/YIkoMOhMB0Zj.jpg
Thanks guys, I will pass it on to my brother.
PB
FromMyColdDeadHand
02-08-23, 18:23
Shouldn’t a red dot work if it is visible with either eye? Theoretically cross dominance should be better since we are supposed to shoot with both eyes open. Right handed /left-eyed would incorporate the red dot with your right eye vision while allowing your dominate left eye having better vision?
Sidneyious
02-08-23, 19:25
Shouldn’t a red dot work if it is visible with either eye? Theoretically cross dominance should be better since we are supposed to shoot with both eyes open. Right handed /left-eyed would incorporate the red dot with your right eye vision while allowing your dominate left eye having better vision?
not really, for me my right eye doesn't crossect well with the left eye, like the whole put your finger over an object then close an eye, does the object move?
P2Vaircrewman
02-09-23, 09:49
Try this. put a piece of tape over the front of the red dot and with both eyes open take aim at the target and shoot. Guess what, you will hit the target. Most people don't believe this is possible and are amazed when they try it.
Sidneyious
02-09-23, 14:58
Try this. put a piece of tape over the front of the red dot and with both eyes open take aim at the target and shoot. Guess what, you will hit the target. Most people don't believe this is possible and are amazed when they try it.
and I have to crank my head to the left something awful just to see the dot with my right eye and its not even anywhere near lined up with my front sight, its way off to the right even further.
Eye dominance is a thing and I always hear about what people do to fix it and it still requires surgery and thats still a maybe.
P2Vaircrewman
02-09-23, 16:18
It doesn't make any difference what eye sees the dot and what eye sees the target as long as you can put the dot on the target you will hit it. What does the front sight have to do with shooting the red dot, the front sight is immaterial, you could take it completely off and it would make no difference. I don't believe you have a good understanding of how a reflex sight works.
I am right eye dominant but I can shoot with my head in the same position using either eye. Using my non dominate to see the dot and my dominate eye to see the target and simply placing the dot on the target.
Sidneyious
02-09-23, 16:44
It doesn't make any difference what eye sees the dot and what eye sees the target as long as you can put the dot on the target you will hit it. What does the front sight have to do with shooting the red dot, the front sight is immaterial, you could take it completely off and it would make no difference. I don't believe you have a good understanding of how a reflex sight works.
I am right eye dominant but I can shoot with my head in the same position using either eye. Using my non dominate to see the dot and my dominate eye to see the target and simply placing the dot on the target.
with the sights aligned the red dot doesnt exist in the view of my right eye.
switch to left eye, sights alined and the dot is right above in the middle of my rmr where it should be.
P2Vaircrewman
02-09-23, 17:21
Why are you concerned with aligning the sights. They don’t matter only the dot does and it doesn't matter what eye sees it. With both eyes open focused on the target your brain will murge the images. Don’t focus on the dot, only on the target.
Do this, focus on a picture on the wall with both eyes. Now without losing focus on the picture bring your thumb up and in front of the the picture. you should see the picture clearly and a transparent image of your thumb in front of the picture. Now consider the picture the target and your thumb the red dot. Eye dominance doesn't matter, that's the beauty of the red dot.
and I have to crank my head to the left something awful just to see the dot with my right eye and its not even anywhere near lined up with my front sight, its way off to the right even further.
Eye dominance is a thing and I always hear about what people do to fix it and it still requires surgery and thats still a maybe.
Just move your hands to bring the sight in front of your eye. If your eyes are 3.5" apart, thats how far you move the gun to the eye you want to use.
Sidneyious
02-10-23, 14:57
Just move your hands to bring the sight in front of your eye. If your eyes are 3.5" apart, thats how far you move the gun to the eye you want to use.
I have to close my left eye to make the dot show up on my right eye, its eye dominance for a reason.
I have to close my left eye to make the dot show up on my right eye, its eye dominance for a reason.
We all have eye dominance. Cross dominance is the thing if both eyes can see the object which is being aligned under a weak eye, like a front sight. With the dot only one eye can see it. If I aim my dot at a spot, aligning it under my strong eye (only strong eye can see it) and holding it with my strong hand, and then change my head position so now only weak eye can see it (cross dominant aiming) , the dot remains at exactly the same spot on a target. Try this exercise for yourself.
I went to the academy with a guy who was right handed and left eye dominate. He learned to shoot left handed rather than fight with it.
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FromMyColdDeadHand
02-11-23, 19:34
Why are you concerned with aligning the sights. They don’t matter only the dot does and it doesn't matter what eye sees it. With both eyes open focused on the target your brain will murge the images. Don’t focus on the dot, only on the target.
Do this, focus on a picture on the wall with both eyes. Now without losing focus on the picture bring your thumb up and in front of the the picture. you should see the picture clearly and a transparent image of your thumb in front of the picture. Now consider the picture the target and your thumb the red dot. Eye dominance doesn't matter, that's the beauty of the red dot.
I think that is a key in bold.
That a red dot doesn't need a clear window, if you are using both eyes-
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