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Slater
03-24-23, 10:23
Wonder how this compares to our M855A1?


https://i.imgur.com/6ytp56l.jpg


"The Type 20 is slowly replacing the JGDSF’s older Type 89 rifle – also manufactured by Howa. As a matter of fact, Howa has been the primary manufacturer of every single rifle the JGSDF has adopted as standard issue since the end of World War Two. This includes Japanese-made copies of American M1 Carbines and M1 Garands issued to the JGSDF in the immediate postwar period. Currently, only around 3,000 rifles are being produced per year and, according to Kimura, despite the massive recent increases in Japanese defense expenditure, there are no plans to increase the pace of production. It is estimated that it will take about 30 years for the rifle to fully replace the Type 89."

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2023/03/23/dsei-japan-2023-howa-type-20-rifle/
Johnny Rico
03-24-23, 12:34
Currently, only around 3,000 rifles are being produced per year...

3,000 rifles per year? That's only 250 per month, or a little more than 10 rifles a day assuming a five-day workweek.
markm
03-24-23, 12:42
My fantasy experiment is to see if the Japanese could make the 1911 reliable. A Toyota 1911 if you will.
Johnny Rico
03-24-23, 12:50
At the rate they make guns, a Japanese 1911 would be pretty close to unobtanium.
FromMyColdDeadHand
03-24-23, 12:52
3,000 rifles per year? That's only 250 per month, or a little more than 10 rifles a day assuming a five-day workweek.

Uhm, I think I could make that many rifles a day. With two people, it would be easy.
markm
03-24-23, 13:10
At the rate they make guns, a Japanese 1911 would be pretty close to unobtanium.

I know. It's just a long time gun fantasy of mine.
Slater
03-24-23, 17:12
"It is estimated that it will take about 30 years for the rifle to fully replace the Type 89."
lowprone
03-24-23, 17:15
I would like more info on the 1x8 scope !
Slater
03-24-23, 17:24
I would like more info on the 1x8 scope !

According to the display illustrated in the link, the optic is made by Howa Machinery Ltd. I'm wondering if they meant the mount itself, as I would have expected the optic to be a product of March Optics or similar.